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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:37 am

    higurashihougi wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:so 27 th another ceasefire. Putin and Obama agreed. I wonder what will be with Aleppo and turkey border?

    Putin told about details of cooperation with the US proposals for a ceasefire in Syria
    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/495771

    Moderate or not it it will depend on Putin and Assad, so combat in Aleppo and Turkish border will continued as usual. Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes

    The only true "moderate opposition" are YPG and FSA factions who closely side with them.


    Well those "moderate terrorists " to be agreed with US so not Putin alone can determine, I wonder what he is ready to step back and whet he receives if he does?

    higurashihougi wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Well then what if Assad wins? moderate will be non-moderate anymore? Very Happy

    Media: Bashar al-Assad has called for parliamentary elections in Syria on 13 April

    Probably the West will say "fraud", "fraud", like they did in Russia.

    Be cause it is fraud, as long as Us puppet scum is not winning.


    Syrian authorities agreed with the statement the US and Russia ceasefire

    MOSCOW, 23 Feb — RIA Novosti. Syrian authorities agreed to the terms of the U.S. and Russia on the cessation of hostilities, if military efforts to combat terrorist group "Islamic state" (IG), "dzhebhat EN-Nusra" (both groups were banned in Russia) and other militias will continue, said Agency SANA with reference to the statement by the government.

    In addition, the Syrian government said it was ready to coordinate with Russian authorities to identify the areas where hostilities are suspended, and groups involved in the truce. In addition, the official Damascus reserves the right to respond to any ceasefire violations by armed groups.

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria_peace/20160223/1379101005.html

    Sounds reasonable because nanny-goat virgin lovers will not stop. But external pressure ,,,
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:24 pm

    British humor starts to deteriorate.All good must come to an end, Hammond today tried to be a comedian. who is he to dictate Russia behaviour? Maybe Lavrov shall say what UK must do especially after rigging Scotland referendum, huh?

    London demanded Russia "change behavior" in Syria


    "I hope that the agreement on cessation of violence, if adequately implemented, will allow as soon as possible to resume serious political negotiations. These negotiations should lead to a political transition in Syria from Assad's regime to the government in Damascus, which will represent all Syrians," reads the statement.

    Democracy Brit way: no democracy until our scum is ruling.



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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:52 pm

    Well they are free to bark as long as they don't bite.

    They don't have the guts to do so. Erdogan attempted to bite once and now we now what was the results.

    After all, Soyuz, Proton, ISS, titanium parts, oil drillers... no Western countries can live w/o these.

    ANW, can you give me a link about the Brits's demand of "political transition" ? I failed to find it by Google.

    BTW, English version of the RIA news:

    https://www.rt.com/news/333338-syria-accepts-ceasefire-deal/

    The Syrian government has accepted the terms of a ceasefire deal announced by the US and Russia, a foreign ministry source said, as cited by Sana news agency. But Damascus wants the fight against terrorists such as Islamic State to continue.

    The source added that Syrian authorities would coordinate with Russia to decide which groups and areas would be included in the "cessation of hostilities" plan.

    Syria said that it was important to seal the borders and halt foreign support for armed groups, as well as to prevent "these organizations from strengthening their capabilities or changing their positions, in order to avoid… wrecking this agreement," according to the source.

    The source added that Syria “affirms readiness to continue to coordinate with the Russian side to identify the areas and armed groups that are to be included in the ceasefire during the period it is in effect.”

    Syria said that it was important to seal the borders and halt foreign support for armed groups, as well as to prevent “these organizations from boosting their capabilities or changing their positions as to avoid anything that may undermine this agreement,” according to the source.

    Damascus announced its acceptance of a halt to combat operations on the basis of continuing military efforts to combat terrorism – against Daesh [an Arabic acronym for Islamic State], the Nusra Front, and the other terrorist organizations linked to it and to Al Qaeda, according to the Russian-US plan.

    Turkey said it welcomed the ceasefire plans, adding, however, that it is not optimistic about a positive outcome of the talks on a political transition, Deputy Prime Minister Numan Kurtulmus said, as cited by Reuters.

    On Monday, Russia and the US adopted “Terms for a Cessation of Hostilities in Syria” and proposed that a ceasefire start on Saturday, February 26 at midnight Damascus time.

    According to the statement, the truce will “be applied to [all] those parties to the Syrian conflict that have indicated their commitment” to accept its terms. It will exclude Islamic State, the Nusra Front and “other terrorist organizations designated by the UN Security Council.”
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    Post  arpakola Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:27 pm

    ISIS captures the strategic village of Khanasser in northeast Hama

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-captures-the-strategic-village-of-khanasser-in-northeast-hama/ | Al-Masdar News

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    there is something wrong with SAA..
    ===============================================

    If SAA focus on Dayr Hafir and captures it , so they can extend the safe area around the airport of Shekh Ahmed, this air port can be used to transfer rapid supplies and troops to Aleppo area.
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    Post  Monarchist Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:49 pm

    Syrian army is totally corrupt and useless. There were 300-400 guarding the city, basically just ran away.
    What's the use of Shayrat airbase with helis and they basically lost Khanasser. This whole war is a joke, basically a staged war.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:20 pm

    Here we go again...

    Same kind of "totally not coordinated" moves was seen all the first half of the 2015 between Moderats and Daesh. Same move here.

    SAA isn't better or worse than it actually was pound per pound. The issue stands with the fact someone is planning the deal for them.
    Russians did everything to avoid this type of issues by forcing the pace.Unfortunately the move was made and the road is in peril. The idea however is that this road is far more an issue to actually hold, than retake.

    Personally I don't understand the whole idea behind cutting the road. Russian's don't need it. Syrians don't care about it and ISIS can't hold it without using it. It's stupid.
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    Post  medo Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:29 pm

    Arab incompetence will never stop amazing me. What Hezbollah, Iraqi Shia militias, Iranians and Syrian special forces manage to liberate in 5 months, Syrian Arabs lost in two days. It is true, that in last few days ISIL got thousands of new jihadists from Turkey, but still. This route is the most important supply line in Syria and its defense fall in a matter of hours. They are five years in war now and they still didn't learn anything from their experiences. When this supply line will be liberated again, they will have to place Hezbollah or Iraqi militias to defend this main supply line. But who will then fight on the front? Iran will simply have to send few divisions of IRGC to win the war. Syrian army itself is not capable of it.

    Considering that Syrian army is the best Arab army, than I'm really not surprised, that Flip-flops bit the sh*t out of Saudi army, although they are armed with the best western armament the money could buy. And Arabs dream to defeat Israel... Rolling Eyes
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    Post  Dima Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:34 pm

    arpakola wrote:ISIS captures the strategic village of Khanasser in northeast Hama

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-captures-the-strategic-village-of-khanasser-in-northeast-hama/ | Al-Masdar News

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    there is something wrong with SAA..
    ===============================================

    If SAA focus on Dayr Hafir and captures it , so they can extend the safe area around the airport of Shekh Ahmed, this air port can be used to transfer rapid supplies and troops to Aleppo area.
    They were manned mainly by the NDF after SAA liberated it few months back. These are civilians armed and trained to support the SAA.

    Some tweets on the situation, but I dont understand looking at the map how those 800 or so ISIS could have retreated to carry out/strengthen this offensive?.
    Those guys were inside the cauldron...so how could....probably Leith Abou Fadel misreported?

    Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel  2 hours ago
    Looks like all of ISIS' fighters from the Al-Safira Plains retreated for this special offensive. Kind of smart by ISIS.

    Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel  2 hours ago
    ISIS has captured the strategic village of Khanasser - like I said earlier; this attack is far worse than reported

    Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel  2 hours ago
    Latest report from SE Aleppo and NE Hama. ISIS launches major assault on Khanasser. Tiger Forces deploy to stop them


    I wish this new offensive by the terrorists help SAA to create a big cauldron by sucking in as much terrorists as possible inside that territory and wipe them out. Now that Tiger forces are free after completion their mission around Kuweries airbase, they will be in with much better fighting force and firepower.
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    Post  Dima Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:50 pm

    Chill out friends, setbacks happens, what I'm more bothered about is about loss of men...and thankfully the terrorists have not managed to inflict much damage in that area. So lets live to fight another day to kill those assoles.

    btw,
    Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 1 hour ago
    #SAA led by Col. Suheil Al-Hassan have launched a counter offensive against #IS on the Khanaser highway #Aleppo
    Syrian Civil War: News #6 - Page 32 Cb5znrPUAAIPoAH

    Its no doubt a setback in the plans, but not which cannot be reversed. If this had not unfolded, we would probably have seen the Tiger forces spearheading another offensive towards either Al Bab to the north or Deir Hafer
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    Post  medo Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:56 pm

    Novorussian army also have thin supply road lines in the times of high warfare with Ukrainian army, but they create a real front line on the whole road path to defend it. Syrian army should do the same with fortified front line on the whole path of the road with regular patrols and UAVs to check the enemy activities. Weak protection of villages is not enough. After five years of combat experiences, this is unbelievable.
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:33 pm

    The SAA need Russian airstrikes & artillery, Hezbollah, Iranian Revolutionary Guard support and Iraqi militias to break some terrorist defence lines right next to their home turf in Latakia and take just a village or two each day.

    Yet ISIS, Al-Nusra and pals consistently manage blitzkrieg's and break Syrian defence lines in hours - and all this w/o any special forces, air support, heavy artillery, armour, etc...

    Seriously, the SAA or the NDF or whoever it is - is a massive liability.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:50 pm

    Ughhh. This is something I don't understand. You need to understand a couple of things.

    1. It's a simple matter of communicating vessels. Where the damn SAA advances, the MOderats and other ISIS mangina go away. They don't always go to Jennah, sometimes they simple move out and relocate for other offensive/defensive tasks.
    2. Cutting the road at Khannasser is clear evidence the SAA and affiliates are doing this right. The Moderats aren't trying to counter the advance, they're trying to get at the weak points. This doesn't happen because ISIS and Moderats have some super duper sixth sense. It's simply because they have their own eye in the sky. However the "help" doesn't change much to the actual issue. Which is point 3.
    3. The main actors of this push so far haven't been the SAA guys, but their support. All these people don't need the road per se. This operation can take about a week, if the need is there. What the real problem is here, stands at the fact that Moderats just got red handed collaborating with ISIS. Which means. Those groups that performed this seppuku are automatically excluded from Feb 27th. deal. Automatically.
    4. What are they going to do with the Khanasser road cut? Stay in Khanasser and get bombed at nauseam? They can't go up or down, nor can they go towards one another...
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    Post  par far Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:56 pm

    Monarchist wrote:Syrian army is totally corrupt and useless. There were 300-400 guarding the city, basically just ran away.
    What's the use of Shayrat airbase with helis and they basically lost Khanasser. This whole war is a joke, basically a staged war.


    Had you been paying attention, then you would have known that, Turkey has sent in hundreds of terrorist plus Turkish Speical Forces into Syria and a thing like this would happen, the same thing will happen in the Kurdish controlled areas as well, SAA and allies need to regroup and counterattack(which they are already doing).
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    Post  Dima Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:56 pm

    "Older" updates...
    The 'Nimr' Tiger ‏@Souria4Syrians  21 hours ago
    SAA has destroyed 14 mounted-vehicles so far on the Ithriya-Khanasir road & the number is still going up. #graveyard
    Syrian Civil War: News #6 - Page 32 Cb1q_ynWAAAXTPg


    Maybe its time for SAA to move in the eastern direction starting with Dayr Hafir and take the areas surrounding Lake Jabbul.

    Peto Lucem ‏@PetoLucem Feb 21
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    Peto Lucem ‏@PetoLucem 23h (Feb 23)
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    A glimpse of the motorway in the area
    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/701893930846134272
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    Post  Monarchist Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:17 pm

    flamming_python wrote:The SAA need Russian airstrikes & artillery, Hezbollah, Iranian Revolutionary Guard support and Iraqi militias to break some terrorist defence lines right next to their home turf in Latakia and take just a village or two each day.

    Yet ISIS, Al-Nusra and pals consistently manage blitzkrieg's and break Syrian defence lines in hours - and all this w/o any special forces, air support, heavy artillery, armour, etc...

    Seriously, the SAA or the NDF or whoever it is - is a massive liability.
    Exactly!
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    Post  Dima Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:27 pm

    South Front
    International Military Review - Syria, Feb. 23, 2016


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3m5l1ZJ6Ew
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:44 pm

    The FSA says it will not come to reconciliation without a "dzhebhat EN-Nusra"


    FREE SYRIAN ARMY WILL NOT GO TO A TRUCE WITH THE GOVERNMENT WITHOUT PARTICIPATION OF "DZHEBHAT EN-NUSRA" IN THIS PROCESS — THE COMMANDER


    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160223/1379272914.html
    (not me in capitals but RIA Smile


    So Jebat-al-Nusre is now moderate or FSA terrorists?


    higurashihougi wrote:Well they are free to bark as long as they don't bite.

    They don't have the guts to do so. Erdogan attempted to bite once and now we now what was the results.

    After all, Soyuz, Proton, ISS, titanium parts, oil drillers... no Western countries can live w/o these.

    Russia has been making oil drillers? As for Proton/Soyuz they can live just loose more money. With titsanium as well just costs will bee very high if thys stop buying form Russia also high for Russia. Not yet the time to overthrow western dictatorships. But time is coming soon.



    higurashihougi wrote:
    ANW, can you give me a link about the Brits's demand of "political transition" ? I failed to find it by Google.

    I have found an English instead Vzglyad (vz.ru Smile
    http://news.yahoo.com/ceasefire-only-works-major-change-behaviour-syria-govt-194751647.html

    I love comment of this chap:
    [i]Thee this Dude go again calling for President Assad o step down. He also blames Russia like he can issue ultimatums to Russia. Where did Britain get these clowns from? What is he going to do call Obama if they ignore him? Come on British people get rid of these clowns. Wasn't Tony Blair enough?
    [/i]
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:16 pm

    flamming_python wrote:The SAA need Russian airstrikes & artillery, Hezbollah, Iranian Revolutionary Guard support and Iraqi militias to break some terrorist defence lines right next to their home turf in Latakia and take just a village or two each day.

    Yet ISIS, Al-Nusra and pals consistently manage blitzkrieg's and break Syrian defence lines in hours - and all this w/o any special forces, air support, heavy artillery, armour, etc...

    Seriously, the SAA or the NDF or whoever it is - is a massive liability.

    Nobody ever accused SAA of being competent, if they were we would not have whole tread about VKS in Syria, would we now?  Wink

    This is nice play by everyone's favorite holiday bird but, like Kotemore said, it will not last and, best of all, it will provide VKS with some very desired additional targets for "politeness" after the "ceasefire" kicks in.

    Those FSA morons across the road will realize ahead of schedule that they are not really as smart as they thought they were...


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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:19 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:The FSA says it will not come to reconciliation without a "dzhebhat EN-Nusra"


    FREE SYRIAN ARMY WILL NOT GO TO A TRUCE WITH THE GOVERNMENT WITHOUT PARTICIPATION OF "DZHEBHAT EN-NUSRA" IN THIS PROCESS — THE COMMANDER


    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160223/1379272914.html
    (not me in capitals but RIA Smile

    So Jebat-al-Nusre is now moderate or FSA terrorists?


    Very good news if true, more meat for the bombers and less diplomatic BS to fiddle with after weekend. thumbsup
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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:03 pm

    I believe that the attacks in Jabal Butum or on the Aleppo highway for Saudi SOT team attacks. Probably supported by NATO teams like KSK or SAS. The procedure equal to that in Libya. These attacks are for me and controlled IS FSA attacks by NATO / Saudis commands. To specifically to quickly and accuratly as if the normal IS troops would.
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    Post  short_fuze Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:41 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:I believe that the attacks in Jabal Butum or on the Aleppo highway for Saudi SOT team attacks. Probably supported by NATO teams like KSK or SAS. The procedure equal to that in Libya. These attacks are for me and controlled IS FSA attacks by NATO / Saudis commands. To specifically to quickly and accuratly as if the normal IS troops would.

    There is a poorly-supported report that the US airlifted 'senior DAESH leaders' from near Fallujah to parts unknown. The supposed airlift is not definitely dated, but it appears to have taken place on Sunday (21 Feb). The description of the 'senior DAESH leaders' is not expanded on. Assuming the report is valid, they could be actual DAESH members, foreign intelligence service operators, mercenaries or US/NATO Special Forces. The movement coincides nicely with the coordinated ISIS/FSA attack against the Khanasser - Aleppo Road. However, this is all speculation, unless RuAF sigint has info on such helicopter flights.

    https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2016/02/23/usa-cia-daesh/


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:27 am

    short_fuze wrote:
    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:I believe that the attacks in Jabal Butum or on the Aleppo highway for Saudi SOT team attacks. Probably supported by NATO teams like KSK or SAS. The procedure equal to that in Libya. These attacks are for me and controlled IS FSA attacks by NATO / Saudis commands. To specifically to quickly and accuratly as if the normal IS troops would.

    There is a poorly-supported report that the US airlifted 'senior DAESH leaders' from near Fallujah to parts unknown. The supposed airlift is not definitely dated, but it appears to have taken place on Sunday (21 Feb). The description of the 'senior DAESH leaders' is not expanded on. Assuming the report is valid, they could be actual DAESH members, foreign intelligence service operators, mercenaries or US/NATO Special Forces. The movement coincides nicely with the coordinated ISIS/FSA attack against the Khanasser - Aleppo Road. However, this is all speculation, unless RuAF sigint has info on such helicopter flights.

    https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2016/02/23/usa-cia-daesh/



    and where are Russian/Iranian/Syrian spetsnaz then ?
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:38 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    short_fuze wrote:
    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:I believe that the attacks in Jabal Butum or on the Aleppo highway for Saudi SOT team attacks. Probably supported by NATO teams like KSK or SAS. The procedure equal to that in Libya. These attacks are for me and controlled IS FSA attacks by NATO / Saudis commands. To specifically to quickly and accuratly as if the normal IS troops would.

    There is a poorly-supported report that the US airlifted 'senior DAESH leaders' from near Fallujah to parts unknown. The supposed airlift is not definitely dated, but it appears to have taken place on Sunday (21 Feb). The description of the 'senior DAESH leaders' is not expanded on. Assuming the report is valid, they could be actual DAESH members, foreign intelligence service operators, mercenaries or US/NATO Special Forces. The movement coincides nicely with the coordinated ISIS/FSA attack against the Khanasser - Aleppo Road. However, this is all speculation, unless RuAF sigint has info on such helicopter flights.

    https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2016/02/23/usa-cia-daesh/



    and where are Russian/Iranian/Syrian spetsnaz then ?


    Why waste your own special forces troops in Syria if the Chinese and/or NATO will invade Russia soon?

    Syria is a waste of time, money, energy, equipment, and of Russian lives.
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:11 am

    flamming_python wrote:The SAA need Russian airstrikes & artillery, Hezbollah, Iranian Revolutionary Guard support and Iraqi militias to break some terrorist defence lines right next to their home turf in Latakia and take just a village or two each day.

    Yet ISIS, Al-Nusra and pals consistently manage blitzkrieg's and break Syrian defence lines in hours - and all this w/o any special forces, air support, heavy artillery, armour, etc...

    Seriously, the SAA or the NDF or whoever it is - is a massive liability.

    What?  No going to mention....

    1) the US airforce inside of Syria supplying logistics to the terrorist of Syrian army
    and Russian positions?
    2)No mention of Turkey army at Syrian border with 350,000 soldiers threatening to invade
    any time ?
    3)No mention of the race to Raqqa of the Syrian army ,to avoid the Americans ,Turkey or Saudi
    Arabia to annex the city for Kurds?
    The terrorist do have an Airforce is called US ,Israel and Turkey airforce and they are creating a major pressure on Russia and Syria by shutting down their planes near the border ,or by using its artillery across the border ..
    4)No mention of Israel army at Syrian borders in the south.

    Syria does not have a million of soldiers.. it is fighting in 10 front lines at the same time.
    and 300,000 soldiers are not enough to cover all Syria . To believe that the terrorist in Syria
    are fighting "alone" and does not receive an overwhelming help from NATO and Gulf states
    is simply a Mountain of lies.

    How many nations you know could survive for near 5 years alone while being attacked
    from all its sides by mercenaries armed by NATO ? your lovely Israel will could not handle 2 months in
    lebanon against 15,000 hezbolah soldiers. when they invaded Lebanon for comparisons.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:07 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:The FSA says it will not come to reconciliation without a "dzhebhat EN-Nusra"


    FREE SYRIAN ARMY WILL NOT GO TO A TRUCE WITH THE GOVERNMENT WITHOUT PARTICIPATION OF "DZHEBHAT EN-NUSRA" IN THIS PROCESS — THE COMMANDER


    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160223/1379272914.html
    (not me in capitals but RIA Smile

    So Jebat-al-Nusre is now moderate or FSA terrorists?

    Unless UN lift the ban on Nursa, that basically means no ceasfire. SAA will continue to do the job in Aleppo and Latakia as usual.

    Good bye, FSA. Even Obama will abandon you.

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Russia has been making oil drillers? As for Proton/Soyuz they can live just loose more money. With titsanium as well just costs will bee very high if thys stop buying form Russia also high for Russia. Not yet the time to overthrow western dictatorships. But time is coming soon.

    I haven't managed to find all the detailed documents yet. But as far as I know, Russia monoplizes the manufature of the most important and most high-tech part of the oil drillers. Russia pioneered in turbin drilling, angled drilling, branched drilling, drilling in rough terrain and deep water. Russia has been drilling the shale oil for a long time. During the 18th century, Russia extensively used mineral oil in the churches and other religious activities, while the West still used fish oil and plant oil. Off Topic Off Topic

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:I have found an English instead Vzglyad (vz.ru Smile
    http://news.yahoo.com/ceasefire-only-works-major-change-behaviour-syria-govt-194751647.html

    I love comment of this chap:
    [i]Thee this Dude go again calling for President Assad o step down. He also blames Russia like he can issue ultimatums to Russia. Where did Britain get these clowns from? What is he going to do call Obama if they ignore him? Come on British people get rid of these clowns. Wasn't Tony Blair enough?
    [/i]

    Thank you, mate. Very Happy

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