Export missiles are more limited than domestic. Don't expect them to work better than advertized.
The Turkish said their S400s were better than promised...
Heck, once S-500 comes out, it would be better to have a mix of S-500, S-350 then Tor/Pantsir.
No need for S-400 tbh.
I rather suspect domestic S-400 is cheaper than domestic S-500s.
I also rather suspect S-500 wont be on its own anywhere... it will be like extra missiles added to a battery that requires ABM capability so most of the time an S-400 battery will get a dozen S-500 TELs and special radars attached to it... for many targets up to 4.8km/s the S-400 gets the job done and will likely be cheaper than any S-500 missile.
Each layer has its purpose and of course remember that when trying to penetrate an air defence to hit targets deep inside Russian territory then weapons or aircraft have to cross multiple layers of defences defending other things... a sub launched ballistic missile might be launched from the Med at Moscow... an S-400/500 battery in the Crimea might detect it on its way past and shoot it down before it even gets anywhere close... if it is only moving at 4km/s they could use S-400 missiles for the kill...
More limited how? Only range of the SAM is more for domestic version.
They are always improving electronics so putting electronics that are not the latest in there can save money and use up old stuff so newer stuff can be used on domestic models.
So in the absence of enough SAM systems in place, India might not launch a missile strike deep inside China beyond Tibet.
Isn't that a good thing?
Why are they thinking of launching any missiles into the territory of a nuclear power?
MKI though has lots of upgrade options but overall the su-30 and sm have inherent flaws (larger RCS) that gives it a disadvantage.
Yeah, because RCS has always been absolutely critical in air combat so far... the Yak-3 is a small aircraft... lets hear Americans tell us about how its small RCS makes it the best fighter of WWII...
BTW BUK batteries seem to have detected Rafales at max range... do you not think RCS is just hype.
Detection ranges for aircraft don't really change that much... an armed Rafale is not even nearly a stealthy aircraft... and I would say the extra weapon pylons being an Su-30 is more useful than being slightly more stealthy... which is not at all.
So to supplement it, the newer upgrades are to provide one of if not the strongest fighter based radar, the Irbis K. Bars and Bars M that India uses is semi decent but only for it's time (140km track range) but Russian Bars R kinda filled the gap by making it 250km range. RBK2 radar of Rafale will have performance not much less than that of Irbis K (roughly 300km so surpassing Bars R). So upgrade to Irbis E or some other hybrid radar design could spark new life into the MKI upgrade will bring advantages back into the Sukhoi favor
If India paid the Russians for the Flankers what they paid the French for their Rafales I am sure the Russians could provide excellent AESA radar options...
He recently said they will order 200 rafales more...
36 of them cost 8 billion... if they want 200 more that will be about 45 billion....
Amusing that they think Meteor is so amazing... the Russians have had combined rocket ramjet missiles for more than 50 years.... the SA-6 has a rocket ramjet propulsion... it is not new.
I rather suspect the next gen Russian AAM with scramjet propulsion will be eye watering in terms of performance...
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