Iran Air Defense Systems

Where is it best to destroy an enemy aircraft or incoming missiles ? The answer I think is at the point where the enemy has invested the greatest resources in building them and at a point where these weapons are just below operational level . For aircraft then , this is a point where assembly is almost complete at the factory . Where they exist with production machinery . Same for missiles . Therefore the best Iranian jet fighter and SAM is in fact a long range SSM or shorter range submarine launched cruise missiles to destroy enemy facility . Long before they come near us . The less cost effective method is to try and be a good goal keeper against many shots fired from many different players . Most deadly and difficult to stop can be low RCS cruise missiles fired from B52 , from 4000 km range . The best tactic is not to play this game . But to destroy the factory itsef . Hitting yank bases with 2000 km range tactical missiles will not stop or drastically reduce yank capability to hit Iran from platforms further afield . One cruise missile with one tonne conventional warhead can disable electricity supplies for entire city .

For the multi- millionares who run America , there is two possible scenario for Iran . The win win and the win loose ( they win and we loose ) . They have decided that win loose is better for them . Since the military sector makes money by building more weapons . And civil sectors can win big later by monopolising the Iranian market . There is no loose loose scenario for them . If they attack , then they suffer no loses to their factories or banks or stock exchange or Las Vegas , where they have fun . Unless Iran can create a loose loose scenario , then they will opt for win loose instead .

I used to think that ICBM and cruise missiles with conventional warheads only had a limited psychological impact . But because of huge increase in accuracy , only a few need to get through to make a difference . Imagine no factory or stock exchange or Las Vegas for a few weeks . This will be an unacceptable cost to them . Enough to change their minds .

So if you don't have ICBM , then make them . If you have them then display them . So they change their thinking .

Why not build a dog fighting air superiority UCAV ?  SAM fly too fast and has very big  turning circle . This is how fighter jet manage to evade them . But a UCAV can match the flight of a jet fighter . Plus it can pull higher G forces . And has no casualty rate if shot down . Because pilot is on the ground directing flight .

The trick is to allow a directional signal , laser or radio . That is very difficult or impossible to jam . And also allow pilot to execute automated maneuvers . So it can change direction to evade incoming missiles . And quickly returns the craft to within shooting position .

If we criticise that the data link can be possibly jammed . Then basically we have to admit that ALL missiles can be jammed , and none should be built ! For low budget air defence or air force , this can be within technical ability of Iran . Using smaller jet engines , that it makes . In a low weight composite airframe . And lower complexity . Since no pilot on board . And lower cost .

So what now ?  How much damage should Iran sustain ,  before retaliation ?  Looking at the economic and political situation , it is clear that if the present conditions are imposed , that Iran will get weaker . Much weaker than now . Upto a point that society will collapse . Then the Yanks will march in .

So I have to say , since my vote is counted .  And I am listened to . That :

( 1 )  No negotiations should be carried out with the Yanks .  Negotiations are only possible if a reasoned compromise solution is possible that benefits the public good . The demands that the yanks made are all harmful to Iranian and regional peace and security .

( 2 ) Since the Yanks broke the nuclear deal . Which  was a reasoned and beneficial compromise . Then no negotiations are possible on this and associated issue . Iran should now enrich uranium  . And build a nuke weapon force . With land based ICBM . And submarine based nuke cruise missiles . This should be kept hidden until the right moment .

( 3 )  Retaliation should start at a time , when nuke forces are ready . The enemy stronghold  is in USA .  The arms manufactureres and politicians  .  We can not reach them . So Yank regional interests must be destroyed .
They have plenty of bases and enterprises in our region within easy reach . At first indirect attack by proxy can be easily done . In Syria . In Iraq . In Afghanistan . In Persian Gulf . In R . Azerbaijan . Later direct attacks .

( 4 )  Only purely yank interests should be taken out . Third party collaborators . Regional puppets . Or governments should be kept out . We have to eliminate the cause of the problem and not add to it . Iran should also make this clear . And allow for oil sales and trade with any nation that stays neutral  . Otherwise they will be a target .

This is the only real solution .

Nomad .

Starman . Destruction and tribal warfare is a part of human nature and society . Sure , now the most aggressive forms are exhibited by a certain tribe or collection of tribes . They mostly live in what is known as the USA .  But by no means are they a historical abnormality . The human condition and some material conditions , bring about destructive wars .

Wars in the past were fought with much less destructive weapons . As a result one side or another won the war or prevailed . But weapons became more destructive . Modern conventional wars have few winners . But humans still imagine wrongly  that they can be winners . A false hope and illusion . Leading to mass destruction .

Nukes do not allow any winners . They replace  the false hope of victory with the reality of certain defeat . They make war much less likely or impossible . Since humans despite their evil natures ,  still have enough sense to avoid certain death . They  stay alive , because they can see into the fires  of hell . And we should not deny them the fires of hell  .

So  even if  mother Theresa  became the next US president . Rest assured that evil will rise elsewhere . In Asia or Europe or Africa . There will always be war among humans . Unless great fear and death keeps them from it .  That is why Iran needs nukes .

Nukes stop wars . And if they start , their presence quickly ends wars .  That is why I am pro -nuclear . And I think that the only way to stop humans from destroying  each other  through war , is for each nation that needs nukes to get nukes . And they will .

@starman and GarryB

I think if the Arabs had nukes then they would not attack Usrael in the first place . And even if they did then an initial nuke exchange would put all conflict on hold for a very long time . Similarly if Taliban had nukes then they could not attack yanks . Nor yanks attack Taliban . For fear of annihilation . If only one side to a conflict has them , then this does not stop conflict . If both sides have them , then it does . If Usrael had faced annihilation by conventional forces , it would have used nukes . So all those that need them , should get them .

Regarding air defence . Iran tested a new modified warhead SAM . With success . They did not say how modified . But if any nuke warhead is defensive and legitimate , it is a SAM with nuke warhead . Imagine all those planes electrics fried with EMP . All those pilots ejecting and prisoners . But I don't think it was a nuke EMP warhead . But I wish it was . And I am sure it could be .