Mi-28N Havoc: News

The most modern Russian combat helicopter Mi-28NM will be tested in the Syrian desert

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Surprise, surprise.

Syria.
With Video:

https://defence-blog.com/news/russian-advanced-flying-tank-hunter-spotted-in-syria.html

Of course if the air defence vehicle is a Linebacker with a gatling gun and Stinger MANPADs and is 23km

Only in flat desert you can use weapons at max range. In europe you can hide behind trees, rocks, houses ... effective range can be few hundreds meters againsr well trained ground crews.

In kosovo Apaches were not used as the terrain was making their use very dangerous. Manpads at close range have better Pk and much harder to detect if they are launch under the helicopter. Reaction time is then reduced. Against shilkas or tunguska like system they are dead meat.

PapaDragon wrote:

Isos wrote:...........
In kosovo Apaches were not used as the terrain was making their use very dangerous...

Not dangerous, 100% suicidal

Even fighter jets couldn't fly below double-digit number of kilometers, two that tried got blown to shit

Also, there are loads of rumors that Apaches forward stationed Macedonia suffered major ''accidents'' on the ground but since we are now ''cool'' with Uncle Sam everyone is politely keeping things quiet  

Long story short: keep helicopters away from wooded areas

Or you can also quotes numbers from vietnam war. They lost like as much helicopter as there are right now in europe, russia included.

PapaDragon wrote:

Isos wrote:...........
In kosovo Apaches were not used as the terrain was making their use very dangerous...

Not dangerous, 100% suicidal

Even fighter jets couldn't fly below double-digit number of kilometers, two that tried got blown to shit

Also, there are loads of rumors that Apaches forward stationed Macedonia suffered major ''accidents'' on the ground but since we are now ''cool'' with Uncle Sam everyone is politely keeping things quiet  

Long story short: keep helicopters away from wooded areas

Two crashed in total. One had flight computer issue that was later patched on all AHs in service. Second had hydraulics failure. All other stories about us bombing whatever, destroying whatever are just fishing stories. Same as we have about 25.000 "Košare veterans" online.

Isos wrote:

Of course if the air defence vehicle is a Linebacker with a gatling gun and Stinger MANPADs and is 23km

Only in flat desert you can use weapons at max range. In europe you can hide behind trees, rocks, houses ... effective range can be few hundreds meters againsr well trained ground crews.

In kosovo Apaches were not used as the terrain was making their use very dangerous. Manpads at close range have better Pk and much harder to detect if they are launch under the helicopter. Reaction time is then reduced. Against shilkas or tunguska like system they are dead meat.

You´re right if the weapon is launched from the ground, but flying in 1.000 or 2.000m you can look and shoot quite far. And this missiles won´t be used against some soldier hiding behind something, they will be used against vehicles. The radar of the Mi-28NM can see tanks from 20km, even if they are hinding inside woods.

You´re right if the weapon is launched from the ground, but flying in 1.000 or 2.000m you can look and shoot quite far. And this missiles won´t be used against some soldier hiding behind something, they will be used against vehicles. The radar of the Mi-28NM can see tanks from 20km, even if they are hinding inside woods.

You should not trust everything said by the weapon makers.

There is no way a radar can see a tank in a dense forest. Behind one or two trees maybe.

At 1000-2000m they are seen by pantsirs ... and the radar will be detected by ground EW.

Source: the latest Russian aircraft rocket "product 305" is being tested in Syria

Tests are held in combat conditions, the source said.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6250803

Can only be hermes

And the video

There a man-portable radars that can see people behind bushes or trees.

And the west doesn´t have Pantsirs. Only Stingers. Even with Ataka a heli is out of reach of this thing.

Hole wrote:There a man-portable radars that can see people behind bushes or trees.

And the west doesn´t have Pantsirs. Only Stingers. Even with Ataka a heli is out of reach of this thing.

France has crotale. Others have amraam launched from ground.

Europe is full of rocks and mountains and never flat. Plenty of place where to hide. Even in yemen tanks are pretty well hiden and houtis get very close far less than max engagement range of their weapons.

And plenty of places for helos to hide too... just altitude would be enough most of the time

Yes but that means engagemement ranges won't be the maximum.

If you have 2000 manpads, you send at least 1000 of them where you know enemy can hide or use terrain following.

The first helicopter Mi-28NM installation batch

The famous Rostov spotter Erik Romanenko (erik_rostovspotter) published a photo taken on April 17, 2019, that started flight tests in Rostov-on-Don, presumably the first one built on Rostvertol for the Russian Ministry of Defense modernized combat helicopter Mi-28NM installation party.


Presumably, the first modernized combat helicopter Mi-28NM of the installation batch built on Rostvertol for the Ministry of Defense of Russia. Rostov-on-Don, 04/17/2019 (с) Erik Romanenko / erik_rostovspotter



Recall that in December 2017, it was reported that the Ministry of Defense of Russia entered into a state contract with the holding company JSC Russian Helicopters (which includes Rostvertol JSC) for the production of an installation batch of new Mi-28NM helicopters. Under the terms of the contract, the first two cars were to be made before the end of 2018, but apparently, the first side of the installation batch was lifted into the air just now.

The prototype OP-1 (tail number "701 yellow") of the upgraded combat helicopter Mi-28NM ("Product 296", OCR "Avangard-3") was built on the "Rostvertol" in 2015. Tests of the OP-1 in the hover mode were started at the Moscow-based Moscow Helicopter Plant Mil ”(MVZ) on July 29, 2016, and full-fledged flight tests - October 12, 2016. In March 2019, the prototype OP-1 Mi-28NM helicopter was tested for combat use in Syria.

On March 7, 2019, during a visit to Rostvertol, Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia Alexei Krivoruchko stated that the Russian Defense Ministry intends to conclude a contract for the supply of production Mi-28NM helicopters and that "the volume of the first contract for Mi-28NM - 6 or 18 vehicles is being discussed".

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3612842.html

https://mobile.twitter.com/Syrian_MC/status/1124428623128203265

Mi-28NM in Syria.

Isos wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/Syrian_MC/status/1124428623128203265

Mi-28NM in Syria.

Nice find
In the comments he says he could be carrying the new atgm

Hermes ?

That was quick...

In Rostov-on-don began the production of the first of 100 Mi-28NM helicopters — said to Tv Channel "Zvezda" the Deputy Minister of defense of the Russian Federation.

The Supreme commander decided that by 2027 to supply the armed forces with 100 such helicopters

https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/120194/

"Night Hunter" has become even more dangerous

Mi-28NM helicopters received new means of attack and defense

Dmitry Popov

At a meeting on the development of the military-industrial complex in mid-May in Sochi, President Vladimir Putin said that by 2028, 100 new Mi-28NM helicopters should be delivered to the troops. How the modernized “Night Hunter” differs from its predecessors and what other improvements are awaiting it - I understood with the help of the leading military expert Alexei Leonkov “Army Standard”.

https://armystandard.ru/news/direct-hit/t/20195221052-HGVbh.html

Alligator Hunter: Combat Helicopters Unified in Russia

The newest shock machines Mi-28NM and Ka-52M will simplify production and service.

Roman Kretzul
Aleksey Ramm

The production of tested Mi-28NM and Ka-52M attack helicopters will be unified. The developers are tasked to equip both helicopters with the same engines and basic structural elements. As a result, production will be cheaper, and maintenance and repair will be simplified. Until now, a variety of combat vehicles with incompatible spare parts created difficulties in the performance of combat missions.

The decision to make the Mi-28NM helicopter, which the troops call the “Night Super-Hunting” and the Ka-52M (“Super-Alligator”) compatible, has already been made, the Defense Ministry told Izvestia. A unification plan is being developed. Manufacturers of both machines are part of the holding "Helicopters of Russia". Machines are considered the most promising in the Russian army aviation.

The most important will be the unification of communications, airborne defense systems and weapons of destruction, says military expert Viktor Murakhovsky.

“The task of unifying on-board equipment and weapons of destruction is relatively simple,” said Victor Murakhovsky to Izvestia. - In this direction, much has already been achieved. Engines also can be unified. But if we talk about the control systems for rotors and tail rotors, then everything is more complicated. These are helicopters of a fundamentally different layout - the Mi-28NM is equipped with a tail rotor, and the Ka-52M is coaxial.

According to him, after bringing helicopters to a common denominator for a number of systems, it will be easier to retrain pilots and technical personnel. There will be much less problems with the supply of spare parts and consumables. Reduced costs - production and maintenance.

Mi-28NM was created on the basis of the Mi-28N “Night Hunter” helicopter, but differs from its predecessor in many ways. The first flight of the car made in August of 2016 . By the beginning of this year, the Mi-28MN has passed all stages of factory tests, and in the spring - military tests in combat conditions in Syria. In May, President Vladimir Putin stated that until 2028, 100 such helicopters should be delivered to the troops.

One of the main advantages of the newest modification of "Night Hunter" is the appearance of a nadvulochnoy radar station. The antenna receiving and transmitting part of the radar is located above the rotor under a special radome made of a radio-permeable material in the form of a ball - this allows you to get an image of the terrain, hiding in the uneven terrain behind artificial and natural obstacles and remaining invisible to the enemy.

The car received new engines, a control system and an anti-aircraft defense system. For the crew of the Mi-28NM, target designation and indication systems built into flight helmets were developed using augmented reality technology: the required pilot information is projected onto a plastic protective visor using a laser beam: a map, reconnaissance information, and the state of the vehicle. When flying, even with zero visibility, the system can display a three-dimensional image of the terrain over which the helicopter is moving.

Mi-28NM became the most protected military helicopter. The crew cabin and vital units are fully armored, able to withstand the hit of large-caliber bullets and shrapnel. From the MANPADS device protects the warning system , which analyzes the trajectory of the rocket and gives recommendations to the pilot: to perform a maneuver to dodge or shoot heat traps. This will protect the helicopter from unguided rockets, and the guided laser station can be moved aside. The depreciation system in the chassis and crew members allows you to save the lives of pilots and the car itself when falling from a height of several tens of meters. In the event of a helicopter crash at high altitude, it provides a system for shooting side doors, allowing the crew to safely leave the cabin and land with a parachute .

Work on the modernization of the attack helicopter Ka-52 "Alligator" began last year. The developers have been given the task of making a fundamentally new machine, taking into account the experience of combat exploitation. This year, the Ka-52M made its first flight , Izvestia sources said. At the end of May, Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko announced that modernization should be completed in 2022 .

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