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    S-300V Army SAM System

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    Post  Viktor Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:20 pm

    nastle77 wrote:
    Viktor wrote:5 brigades where introduced prior to SU breakup. Now Russia plans to form 9 S-300V4 brigades by 2020.

    Thanks how many launchers will be in 5 brigades ?

    Up to 250 ready to fire launchers + up to 120 reload nearby.
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    Post  franco Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:42 pm

    nastle77 wrote:
    Viktor wrote:5 brigades where introduced prior to SU breakup. Now Russia plans to form 9 S-300V4 brigades by 2020.

    Thanks how many launchers will be in 5 brigades ?

    As per usual, Victor and I agree to disagree Wink

    36 including the load launchers per brigade.
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    Post  Viktor Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:52 am

    franco wrote:
    nastle77 wrote:
    Viktor wrote:5 brigades where introduced prior to SU breakup. Now Russia plans to form 9 S-300V4 brigades by 2020.

    Thanks how many launchers will be in 5 brigades ?

    As per usual, Victor and I agree to disagree Wink

    36 including the load launchers per brigade.

    36 is an average TELAR/TEL load per regiment/batallion not brigade. I say average - not max and per regiment not brigade.

    Maximum number of TEL/TELAR per regiment/batallion is 60 giving maximum number of 192 ready to fire missiles.

    Maximum number of TEL/TELAR per ONE brigade is 240 with 768 ready to fire missiles.

    Russia currently has abt. 60-70 9S32Mx shooting radars deployed meaning max number of simultaneously guided missiles somewhere in between of 720-840 on 360-420 different targets Very Happy





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    Post  franco Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:41 am

    Nice article on the S-300VM and it's parts;
    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://topwar.ru/81654-zenitnyy-raketnyy-kompleks-s-300vm-antey-2500.html&usg=ALkJrhiGtJ_r2VwCppD1sIUemyk1KzR-vg
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    Post  Austin Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:19 am

    Heavenly Guardian

    Author Victor Khudoleev, "Red Star"


    December 26, 2015 in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation noted the 100th anniversary of the founding of the military defense. In the rapid development of air and space attack foreign armies connection parts and air defense units have become an integral part of the combined arms formations from tactical to operational and strategic level.

    Currently, there is a scheduled re army air defense to the new S-300V4, "Buk-M2", "Thor M2U" MANPADS "Willow." According to head of the Air Defense Forces Lieutenant-General Alexander Leonov, who spoke on the occasion of the anniversary of the radio station "Russian news service", S-300V4, the range of which is up to 350 km, it is able to deal with almost all means of air attack, including hypersonic.The complex allows to deal with any means of air attack, including "AWACS" planes reconnaissance, jammers. C-300V4, said Lieutenant General Leonov, has two types of missiles, one of them - hypersonic, which allows you to hit the target by ballistic hypersonic aircraft.

    In 2016, the Army planned to deliver the first set of Brigadier anti-aircraft missile complex of medium-range "Buk-M3." For this perspective the complex, said Lt. Gen. Alexander Leonov, created a unique new missile: "In launching transporting containers are six missiles on each self-propelled fire installation. Rockets have become more compact, but nevertheless they fly faster, farther and more accurately. "

    In the defense industry and lay the groundwork for the creation of long-term MANPADS, protected from the interference of the latest equipment, including laser.
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    Post  franco Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:31 am

    rambo54 wrote:Quite a while I'm looking on google earth for that mysterious "southern deployment site" of the new S-300V4. But I didn't find any.


    Understand it may be called the 77th and stationed in Kropotkin.
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    Post  franco Sat Jan 09, 2016 2:23 pm

    According to this, there should be 3 brigades converted to the 300V4 by the end of 2015.
    http://tass.ru/en/infographics/7274
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    Post  George1 Thu May 19, 2016 9:48 am

    "Almaz-Antey" is ready to supply Russian MoD with wheeled version of the C-300V4 system

    Range of Russian S-400V4 system with new missile reaches 400 km


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    Post  George1 Thu May 19, 2016 9:50 am

    Paul Sozinov: anti-aircraft missile system S-300V4 got a new long-distance rocket

    Designer General of JSC "Concern EKR" Almaz-Antey "told Tass on last modification capabilities" trehsotki "

    Anti-aircraft missile systems (AAMS) from the group of EKR "Almaz-Antey" are in great demand not only in the Russian army, but also among the foreign customers, and contracts for the supply of these systems abroad are probably the most discussed in the world media.

    On the last modification capabilities "trehsotki" - C-300V4, a new long-range missile for it, as well as about the prospects of installing this system on automobile chassis in an interview with Tass said Chief Designer of JSC "Concern EKR" Almaz-Antey "Paul Sozinov.

    - Russia has been actively promoting the export a new air defense system "Antey-2500". What are the characteristics of this sictemy compared to the C-300B, which was produced earlier?


    - Almost all of the component parts "Anthea" fully implemented on modern element base. Of course, its performance compared to the previous generation of the S-300V systems significantly improved. Let me remind you: "Antey-2500" - the name of an export version of the C-300V4 system, it has some differences from the base established for the Russian Armed Forces.

    - That is, the C-300V4 - a completely new system, or is it still the modernization of air defense missile systems of the previous generation?

    - First, the Ministry of Defence is planning to hold a local modernization of C-300B for extending service life and improving system performance a little. However, we managed to convince the military that local upgrading is not necessary to do, and should do more modern designs. Although when creating a C-300V4 individual solutions we borrowed from previous generation systems, but in general this is actually new technology.

    - What can you say about the features of the practical application of the new system compared to the previous generations?


    - The features are many, but perhaps the main is that the C-300V4 is equipped with a new long-range missile , which is capable of solving the problem, including non-strategic missile defense. In particular, the greatly expanded range of defeats the purpose, which today has reached 400 km. That is, the aircraft airborne patrol and management, including AWACS, now can not enter with impunity in the 400-kilometer zone.

    In addition, the reduced possibility of the probable opponent Management assault and fighter aircraft. The introduction of this kind of long-range missiles is also significantly alters the interference situation that can arise when the respective reflection strikes. The same ideology is embedded in "chetyrehsotke" and other systems, including the fifth generation.

    - What are the new properties of the individual elements of the C-300V4 you could mention?

    - Primarily - higher processability of the system. Many elements of the system should be altered or re-created. This is already provided in the future the necessary quality and volume mass production.

    I stress that the establishment of this system, we were not on the way to restore individual elements of production, and on the creation of new analogues. As an example, I can cite the creation of a specialized chassis for C-300V4.

    - If we were talking about the new chassis for this system, considered it possible to create a modified C-300V4 on chassis?


    - If such a need arises, and such modification is C-300V4 will be demanded by the customer, we will launch this modification into production. In any case, the corresponding project we already have.


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    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/3290964&usg=ALkJrhjDuRHw8v5NbRv8qaLNTWKnMZMXnQ
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    Post  Book. Thu May 19, 2016 8:50 pm

    Military Defense Industry Technology - S-300V4
    Published: Thursday, 19 May 2016 14:43
    Here: http://www.armyrecognition.com/weapons_defence_...

    New surface-to-air missile for S-300V4 air defense system able to engage targets out to 400 km.
    The Russian-made S-300V4 (NATO-reporting name: SA-23 Gladiator/Giant) surface-to-air missile (SAM) system has been afforded a sophisticated long-range missile designed to engage threats out to 400 km, Almaz-Antei General Designer Pavel Sozinov told TASS in an interview.

    "The S-300V4 has been equipped with an advanced long-range missile capable, inter alia, of non-strategic missile defense," he told TASS.

    According to him, the S-300V4’s range is 400 km. "That is airborne early warning and control aircraft, including the [E-3 Sentry] AWACS, will no longer be able to get in range of the 400-km-capable system scot-free," Sozinov stressed.

    He said that the SAM system has reduced the potential opponent’s fighter and attack aircraft control capability and "has considerably altered the electronic countermeasures situation that may emerge when air attacks are being repulsed."

    "The ‘400’ [S-400 Triumph] (SA-21 Growler) and other systems, including fifth-generation ones, embody the same philosophy," Almaz-Antei’s general designer added.

    Almaz-Antei has derived an S-300V4 version on a wheeled chassis and may implement the program, if the Russian Defense Ministry displays interest in it.

    "If there is a need for the S-300V4, if the version is in demand, we will launch its production. In any case, the version in question has been designed," Sozinov said.

    The S-300V4 is a recent addition to the S-300V family of army air defense missile systems. The variant has been supplied to the Russian military under an order awarded in 2012.

    A TASS source in the Russian Defense Ministry reported the service entry of the long-range SAM previously. According to him, the weapon is effective at a range of 400 km. According to official reports, the S-300V4’s range is 350 km. This is what Army Air Defense Commander Alexander Leonov has said.

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    Post  George1 Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:58 pm

    Russia's new S-300V4 air defense system to get three types of hypersonic missiles

    For the destruction of ballistic missile warheads, the air defense system missiles are for the first time equipped with a directional warhead with "light" and "heavy" strike elements


    KUBINKA (Moscow region), September 9. /TASS/. The S-300V4 anti-aircraft missile defense system, which has been supplied to the Russian troops since the end of 2014, will be equipped with three types of hypersonic missiles, a representative of Russia’s air defense weapons’ manufacturer - Almaz-Antey Concern, told reporters on Friday at the Army 2016 Forum.

    "The versatility of the S-300V4 system, according to the ‘efficiency - cost’ criterion, is achieved by using of three types of missiles - all SAM (surface-to-air missiles) in it - solid fuel, two-stage, hypersonic, maximally unified with each other", he said.

    The company spokesman said that the S-300V4 system will be able to use the 9M83M small missile, the large 9M82MD and intermediate 9M82M missile with the range of up to 200 km. According to him, the 9M82MD missile is designed to intercept aerodynamic targets within the range of 400 km, as well as the main types of ballistic targets, including the warheads of medium-range ballistic missiles flying at a speed of up to 4,500 meters per second

    For the destruction of ballistic missile warheads, the air defense system missiles are for the first time equipped with a directional warhead with "light" and "heavy" strike elements, said the expert. The effectiveness of such a warhead is "more than five-fold or six-fold" higher than the "classic" one, the representative of Almaz-Antey said.

    The contract on the supply of the S-300V4 system was signed with the Russian Defense Ministry in 2012, and the first set off the system was made operational in late 2014. In May, Almaz-Antey General Designer Pavel Sozinov said in an interview with TASS that a new long-range missile, which allows the system to destroy targets at a distance of 400 kilometers, was made operational.


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    http://tass.com/defense/898884
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    Post  George1 Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:31 am

    First deployment of S-300V4 system outside Russia, in Syria

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2163617.html
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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:00 am

    Anti-aircraft missile system S-300V4 in Crimea

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    Post  franco Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:40 am

    From this article it sounds like the 28th SAM brigade (S.300V) has moved to the Kirov region from the Chelyabinsk region.

    https://ria.ru/arms/20161201/1482570680.html
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    Post  Arrow Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:46 pm

    Plus the new V4 are coming. wrote:

    So how many battery or regiment S-400V4 is now in RF army ? All old S-300V system will be upgrade for S-300V4 ? How many Russia plans enter service new S-400V4 ?
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    Post  rambo54 Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:51 am

    Arrow wrote:

    So how many battery or regiment S-400V4 is now in RF army ? All old S-300V system will be upgrade for S-300V4 ? How many Russia plans enter service new S-400V4 ?

    S-300V is a little bit out of topic here :-) but:
    There are definitely 7 Brigades/Regiments:

    Eastern Military District
    --Yushno-Sachalinsk (Sachalin): part of 39th rifle RGT
    --Birobidzhan (Jewish Autonomous Oblast): 1724th AD RGT

    Central Military District
    --Chebarkul (Tscheljabinsk): 28th AD BGD (changed location to Kirov District)

    Western Military District
    --Naro-Fominsk (Moscow): 202nd AD BGD
    --Znamensk (Kaliningrad): 1545th AD RGT

    Southern Military District
    --Gyumri (Armenia): 988th AD RGT
    --Korenovsk (Krasnodar): 77th AD BGD

    The number of batteries for each BGD may up to 4. But this varies. As google earth shows at least the 77th has four batteries. It is this unit which sent detachments to Tartus and to Crimea.
    On the other hand the 988th AD RGT at Gyumri has just one battery.

    To my knowledge the V4 version has been deployed at least with 202nd and 77th BGD.

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    Post  franco Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:27 pm

    Arrow wrote:

    So how many battery or regiment S-400V4 is now in RF army ? All old S-300V system will be upgrade for S-300V4 ? How many Russia plans enter service new S-400V4 ?

    Some time back in 2015 read that 40 TELAR's had been done and orders existed for another 80. Could be 3 brigades complete so far?? Plan is for 9 brigades and they originally said 2 battalion or divisions per. A battalion or division has 6 TELAR's and 3 TELL's each.
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    Post  rambo54 Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:35 am

    franco wrote:
    Arrow wrote:

    So how many battery or regiment S-400V4 is now in RF army ? All old S-300V system will be upgrade for S-300V4 ? How many Russia plans enter service new S-400V4 ?

    Some time back in 2015 read that 40 TELAR's had been done and orders existed for another 80. Could be 3 brigades complete so far?? Plan is for 9 brigades and they originally said 2 battalion or divisions per. A battalion or division has 6 TELAR's and 3 TELL's each.

    BTW: what happened to the Egypt order? Are they already delivered/deployed? Does someone has informations?
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    Post  rambo54 Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:13 am

    strange...although Terraserver has new (Nov 2016) images from Tartus & Latakia AB there is no sign of S-300V deployment.
    Any thoughts?
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    Post  franco Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:21 pm

    rambo54 wrote:strange...although Terraserver has new (Nov 2016) images from Tartus & Latakia AB there is no sign of S-300V deployment.
    Any thoughts?

    It is suppose to be attached to the Tartus naval base. The Syrian used to have an SAM unit at 345508.3N 355323.2E. And with the need to provide security would not expect it to be too far off base if at all.

    There are also S-75 bases at 345757.7N 355535.5E and 345044N 355455.4E
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    Post  Arrow Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:09 pm

    Plan is for 9 brigades and they originally said 2 battalion or divisions per. A battalion or division has 6 TELAR's and 3 TELL's each. wrote:

    So 9 brigades is a total 432 launcher ? One battalion has a four battery. One battery has a 6 launcher.
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    Post  franco Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:09 pm

    Arrow wrote:

    So 9 brigades is a total 432 launcher ? One battalion has a four battery. One battery has a 6 launcher.

    No, a battalion is 6 TELAR's and 3 TELL's. A battery is 2 TELAR's and 1 TELL.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:23 pm

    franco wrote:
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    So 9 brigades is a total 432 launcher ? One battalion has a four battery. One battery has a 6 launcher.

    No, a battalion is 6 TELAR's and 3 TELL's. A battery is 2 TELAR's and 1 TELL.

    You are correct and wrong in the same time Very Happy thumbsup

    I dont need to explain correct part Very Happy ... the thing is that composition is not rigid at all. It can be greatly increased in size if need arizes but also reduced

    greatly in size if no threat is expected. The big man in the house the thing that controls (much of the system ECM lies directly in its brains and determines the lvl of the system resistance among interesting things Very Happy ) it all is it command post. That is why it is more convenient to speak

    about the numbers of guidance radars in the composition than the number of launchers Very Happy

    On a regimental level (if you like battalion in Army PVO) command post can integrate between 2 and 4 batteries while the three is most common but important thing is that the battalion lvl of Army PVO is the first functional unit. It is not envisaged that Army PVO battery stands alone on its on like the battery of the teritorial PVO.

    On a brigade lvl command post can integrate between 2-3 regiments. Also Russia has now integrated BUK/S-300V brigades Very Happy
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    Post  Viktor Thu May 18, 2017 5:32 pm

    Here comes Antey-4000 russia

    Developed export variant anti-aircraft missile system S-300V4 entitled "Antey-4000" - source

    http://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=428230
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    Post  Arrow Sun May 21, 2017 5:39 am

    S-300V4 is more advanced than S-400?

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