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franco wrote:Militarov wrote:Khepesh wrote:At Beslan two colonels died. Yes, I know spetsnaz are a little different in this, but even so, they died leading their men from the front, not on a radio.
Anyway, seems that the terrorists are on brink of complete collapse in Aleppo and that a further ten districts have been liberated today. Peskov has advised caution about premature expectations because there will be a hard core who will fight to the death and try to cause as much destruction as they can before the end. I suspect Assad will claim liberation of Aleppo in a few days, and some Syrians are claiming it already, but difficult mopping up will continue for maybe a few weeks.
Thing is he was commanding a tank batallion there, at the best. Probably even less unit size. That could have been done by decent...senior lieutenant.
Who was commanding a tank battalion?
JohninMK wrote:Wide variety of captured weapons
VARGR198 wrote:JohninMK wrote:Wide variety of captured weapons
An MP 44 and a PPSh-41 submachine gun. Surprised to see them.
Militarov wrote:franco wrote:Militarov wrote:Khepesh wrote:At Beslan two colonels died. Yes, I know spetsnaz are a little different in this, but even so, they died leading their men from the front, not on a radio.
Anyway, seems that the terrorists are on brink of complete collapse in Aleppo and that a further ten districts have been liberated today. Peskov has advised caution about premature expectations because there will be a hard core who will fight to the death and try to cause as much destruction as they can before the end. I suspect Assad will claim liberation of Aleppo in a few days, and some Syrians are claiming it already, but difficult mopping up will continue for maybe a few weeks.
Thing is he was commanding a tank batallion there, at the best. Probably even less unit size. That could have been done by decent...senior lieutenant.
Who was commanding a tank battalion?
Someone today said he was commanding SAA tank batallion in Aleppo and that he was Colonel in 2nd Guards Tank Army.
franco wrote:Militarov wrote:franco wrote:Militarov wrote:Khepesh wrote:At Beslan two colonels died. Yes, I know spetsnaz are a little different in this, but even so, they died leading their men from the front, not on a radio.
Anyway, seems that the terrorists are on brink of complete collapse in Aleppo and that a further ten districts have been liberated today. Peskov has advised caution about premature expectations because there will be a hard core who will fight to the death and try to cause as much destruction as they can before the end. I suspect Assad will claim liberation of Aleppo in a few days, and some Syrians are claiming it already, but difficult mopping up will continue for maybe a few weeks.
Thing is he was commanding a tank batallion there, at the best. Probably even less unit size. That could have been done by decent...senior lieutenant.
Who was commanding a tank battalion?
Someone today said he was commanding SAA tank batallion in Aleppo and that he was Colonel in 2nd Guards Tank Army.
Military adviser in Syria but was the commander of the 5th Tank Brigade in Ulan Ude, 36th Combined Arms Army.
Militarov wrote:franco wrote:Militarov wrote:Khepesh wrote:At Beslan two colonels died. Yes, I know spetsnaz are a little different in this, but even so, they died leading their men from the front, not on a radio.
Anyway, seems that the terrorists are on brink of complete collapse in Aleppo and that a further ten districts have been liberated today. Peskov has advised caution about premature expectations because there will be a hard core who will fight to the death and try to cause as much destruction as they can before the end. I suspect Assad will claim liberation of Aleppo in a few days, and some Syrians are claiming it already, but difficult mopping up will continue for maybe a few weeks.
Thing is he was commanding a tank batallion there, at the best. Probably even less unit size. That could have been done by decent...senior lieutenant.
Who was commanding a tank battalion?
Someone today said he was commanding SAA tank batallion in Aleppo and that he was Colonel in 2nd Guards Tank Army.
While I would not expect any commander at the level of corps commander and above to have to go right into the front line for anything other than a PR exercise in a reasonably safe sector, I would expect all commanders of division downwards to visit front line in crucial sectors if they needed to see in person exactly what a situation was. It is all very well sitting in command vehicle-complex looking at a wall of maps and listening to countless chat on multiple command networks, but there is nothing better than to see with own eyes and to get a feeling of what happens by being there on the ground. Zakharchenko did not need to be in the assault on Uglegorsk, but it was a critical moment, and while there has been cynicism about what he did, his leadership by example raises morale, and not least his reputation. It would have been very bad if he had died and not been wounded, but it is a risk, and IMO battles are won my taking risk, not sitting isolated a long way behind the front, and these days, conducting war almost as if it were computer game. Certainly new communications technology is useful, there is no denying that, but it can also make a commander more mobile than being tied to large HQ complex, and the target it represents, and nothing beats being there on the spot and seeing with own eyes.Walther von Oldenburg wrote:All of them died in an era when being at the frontline was the only way to get the glimpse of the situation on the battlefield. Today a high ranking commander does not get more info from being at the front... he gets less.Khepesh wrote:These decisions are for the commander to make based on what he thinks is necessary. Sometimes it may be the right thing for a higher level commander to put his life in danger and be at the front, to be seen at the front, to inspire. It they are killed then it can only be seen they made a bad decision in retrospect, if the operation failed, or if successful, that a future operation failed due to loss of leadership by one particular individual. History is littered with this and with various results, Bagration, Nakhimov, "Stonewall" Jackson. It has to be the commanders decision, right or wrong.
The "Follow me!!! Hurrah!!!" stuff should be a domain of sergeants and lieutenants and I believe it is in most armies. And I can't understand the Iranian principle of sending generals to the trenches (they llost like several dozens of them in Syria and keep losing them at rate of 2-3 monthly)
franco wrote:miketheterrible wrote:franco wrote:Militarov wrote:Khepesh wrote:At Beslan two colonels died. Yes, I know spetsnaz are a little different in this, but even so, they died leading their men from the front, not on a radio.
Anyway, seems that the terrorists are on brink of complete collapse in Aleppo and that a further ten districts have been liberated today. Peskov has advised caution about premature expectations because there will be a hard core who will fight to the death and try to cause as much destruction as they can before the end. I suspect Assad will claim liberation of Aleppo in a few days, and some Syrians are claiming it already, but difficult mopping up will continue for maybe a few weeks.
Thing is he was commanding a tank batallion there, at the best. Probably even less unit size. That could have been done by decent...senior lieutenant.
Who was commanding a tank battalion?
Russian Colonel Ruslan Galitsky
He was not commanding a tank battalion. He was a military adviser to one of the SAA brigades fighting in Aleppo.
KoTeMoRe wrote:
4th Corps is a Russian testbed and he was basically commanding there. Word is that he was killed in Hanano pivot. But instead he was killed in frontline way past Owija and we still don't know in what capacity, there's talk of 3 other wounded from the attack, which I suspect was an ATGM strike on building.
calm wrote:Mosul Al bab falling
lets attack Palmyra...
ISIS captured the Village of Jazzal located in Western Palmyra.
Situation near Palmyra is not good right now. ISIS advancing from the southwest. Also, big attack at Huwaysis and Jabal Jazal.
ISIS VBIED attack on Turkish Army / FSA outpost near Al-Bab #Aleppo #Syria
#Syria | #Hezbollah/#SAA have pushed terrorist territory in East #Aleppo from 87Km2 (46%) to 10Km2 (5%)
Looks like IS have launched a huge offensive in East Homs. They have now captured Huwayses, North West Tadmur, & are continuing to advance.Map situation in East Homs.
IS captured Huwayses and Qasr Al-Halabat.
Khepesh wrote:Seems an-Nusra, or whatever name they are using at this moment, have negotiated a withdrawl from Aleppo along Capello road. This from multiple sources, Syrian, Lebanese and from Duma deputy Alexander Sherin. Also daesh attack towards Palmyra is said to have been defeated.
As usual IS is using a lot of VBIEDs many of them BMPs in their offensive in east HomsPro-SAA source confirms IS capture of Qasr al-Halabat meanwhile the Syrian Army has closed the Homs - Tadmor highway
PapaDragon wrote:Khepesh wrote:Seems an-Nusra, or whatever name they are using at this moment, have negotiated a withdrawl from Aleppo along Capello road. This from multiple sources, Syrian, Lebanese and from Duma deputy Alexander Sherin. Also daesh attack towards Palmyra is said to have been defeated.
Well being in the middle of the flat desert, with no civilians to hide behind and with VKS on the prowl, I am surprised they lasted this long...
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