Syrian War: News #11

JohninMK wrote:Looks like a scorched earth policy this time. Not expecting to come back.

As the Syrian army is conducting a massive offensive against Daesh militants entrenched in Palmyra, the militants rushed to burn down gas processing facilities at a plant located in the vicinity of the ancient city.

DAMASCUS (Sputnik) — Daesh militants have burned all gas processing facilities at a plant in the Hiyan oil field close to Syria's Palmyra, a Syrian military source told Sputnik on Thursday.

"IS [Daesh] militants have burned the remaining parts of the Hiyan plant in the eastern Homs province which they blew up a month ago," the source said.

The fire continues to rage in the southern part of the plant, the source added.

The Syrian army is currently advancing to retake the ancient city of Palmyra back from Daesh. Operations started to the east of the Tiyas T4 airbase, where Syrian forces retreated after being pushed out of Palmyra in December. Several locations have been retaken over recent days.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201702021050294269-daesh-burns-gas-plant/

Several #TSK armours taken out by #ISIS IEDs on Al-Bab front, massively used to slow down #EuphratesShield forces. wrote:

KomissarBojanchev wrote:Why the hell does both the SAA and the TSK allow ISIS to use VBIEDs successfuly? I saw an ISIS video where they rode a in the open for a km or so a turretless BMP1 hull full of explosives to a TSK position and it couldn't get destroyed. A fuckin BMP1 with 12.7 mm resistant armor only while they had tanks. The same for the SAA fuckup in Palmyra where they just used easily destroyabe cars.  Why is it that  they keep reaching their target. Is the SAA and TSK simply too retarded to shoot? This is especially dissapointing for the SAA because they regularly field 57mm and 23mm and 14,5 mm guns. All they need to do is to kill the exposed beardie driver of these things.

JohninMK wrote:Clearly going for a big encirclement. Its gonna be a cauldron (for those of a UKie bent) if there are any ISIS left inside.

calm wrote:IS recaptured Biza'ah from Тurkey.
ping-pong

KoTeMoRe wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Clearly going for a big encirclement. Its gonna be a cauldron (for those of a UKie bent) if there are any ISIS left inside.

In all honesty it looks like a huge counter attack waiting to happen at Zarzor.

Militarov wrote:

KomissarBojanchev wrote:Why the hell does both the SAA and the TSK allow ISIS to use VBIEDs successfuly? I saw an ISIS video where they rode a in the open for a km or so a turretless BMP1 hull full of explosives to a TSK position and it couldn't get destroyed. A fuckin BMP1 with 12.7 mm resistant armor only while they had tanks. The same for the SAA fuckup in Palmyra where they just used easily destroyabe cars.  Why is it that  they keep reaching their target. Is the SAA and TSK simply too retarded to shoot? This is especially dissapointing for the SAA because they regularly field 57mm and 23mm and 14,5 mm guns. All they need to do is to kill the exposed beardie driver of these things.

Thing is, its not always that easy to do so. Gunners get scared, some shells-bullets do no significant damage upon hit or penetration, aganist popular belief its not that easy to light up explosive either... If answer was so easy as "shoot it" we would have no loses in war. Many VBIEDs get destroyed, some dont, thats how it is. On many parts of frontline they never saw 57/23mm guns, there are not so many of them around actually as you would imagine, you can see on videos that on many places they have recoiless rifles and mortars at best, rest of people are armed with small arms, so something like BMP-1 is big chunk for them.

KomissarBojanchev wrote:

Militarov wrote:

KomissarBojanchev wrote:Why the hell does both the SAA and the TSK allow ISIS to use VBIEDs successfuly? I saw an ISIS video where they rode a in the open for a km or so a turretless BMP1 hull full of explosives to a TSK position and it couldn't get destroyed. A fuckin BMP1 with 12.7 mm resistant armor only while they had tanks. The same for the SAA fuckup in Palmyra where they just used easily destroyabe cars.  Why is it that  they keep reaching their target. Is the SAA and TSK simply too retarded to shoot? This is especially dissapointing for the SAA because they regularly field 57mm and 23mm and 14,5 mm guns. All they need to do is to kill the exposed beardie driver of these things.

Thing is, its not always that easy to do so. Gunners get scared, some shells-bullets do no significant damage upon hit or penetration, aganist popular belief its not that easy to light up explosive either... If answer was so easy as "shoot it" we would have no loses in war. Many VBIEDs get destroyed, some dont, thats how it is. On many parts of frontline they never saw 57/23mm guns, there are not so many of them around actually as you would imagine, you can see on videos that on many places they have recoiless rifles and mortars at best, rest of people are armed with small arms, so something like BMP-1 is big chunk for them.

Still, all you need to do to render a VBIED is to cause an Mkill, and doing that to suicide toyotas or BMP1s is extremely easy. A DShK or SPG-7 would have no problem doing that.  

If gunners are scared of shooting VBIEDs then the SAA and TSK has the wrong men for the job. This is worse than cowardice, this is not having the honor to stand up for your comrades.

Why is it that when things get tough, all secular middle eastern armies except jews have an "every man for himself" situation? Is it that without wahabbism the arab has no sense of unity or honor?

KomissarBojanchev wrote:Why hasn't Russia supplied NSVT RWSs  for the SAA's older tanks? Its not new technology and they could simply tear them off the  T-72Bs and T-64s in storage. The way they shoot the MGs exposed makes me cringe. I could understand doing that on a T-55 or T-62 but absolutely no on any T-72 variant.

calm wrote:T-62М recently deliverd from Russia hit by ATGM

http://sendvid.com/zc5aefxa

Crew survived.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

calm wrote:T-62М recently deliverd from Russia hit by ATGM

http://sendvid.com/zc5aefxa

Crew survived.

Video already down.

Militarov wrote:

KomissarBojanchev wrote:

Militarov wrote:

KomissarBojanchev wrote:Why the hell does both the SAA and the TSK allow ISIS to use VBIEDs successfuly? I saw an ISIS video where they rode a in the open for a km or so a turretless BMP1 hull full of explosives to a TSK position and it couldn't get destroyed. A fuckin BMP1 with 12.7 mm resistant armor only while they had tanks. The same for the SAA fuckup in Palmyra where they just used easily destroyabe cars.  Why is it that  they keep reaching their target. Is the SAA and TSK simply too retarded to shoot? This is especially dissapointing for the SAA because they regularly field 57mm and 23mm and 14,5 mm guns. All they need to do is to kill the exposed beardie driver of these things.

Thing is, its not always that easy to do so. Gunners get scared, some shells-bullets do no significant damage upon hit or penetration, aganist popular belief its not that easy to light up explosive either... If answer was so easy as "shoot it" we would have no loses in war. Many VBIEDs get destroyed, some dont, thats how it is. On many parts of frontline they never saw 57/23mm guns, there are not so many of them around actually as you would imagine, you can see on videos that on many places they have recoiless rifles and mortars at best, rest of people are armed with small arms, so something like BMP-1 is big chunk for them.

Still, all you need to do to render a VBIED is to cause an Mkill, and doing that to suicide toyotas or BMP1s is extremely easy. A DShK or SPG-7 would have no problem doing that.  

If gunners are scared of shooting VBIEDs then the SAA and TSK has the wrong men for the job. This is worse than cowardice, this is not having the honor to stand up for your comrades.

Why is it that when things get tough, all secular middle eastern armies except jews have an "every man for himself" situation? Is it that without wahabbism the arab has no sense of unity or honor?

Have you ever fired something like M-80 Zolja, or RPG-26/LAW/RPG7 ? Do you have any idea how hard is it to hit fast moving target ?