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LMFS wrote:

eehnie wrote:

This aregument is not serious. If you want to go this way, the work on the replacement of the MiG-25/31 started in the 70s.

Just better to read what the head of MiG said. And to pay attention.

What kind of work has been ongoing since 2010 for MiG-41 then? 8 years for what exactly? 

I pay much attention to what high-level executives and officials say, that is the problem when they say things that (apparently) do not make sense. I was not there so have to rely in what has been disclosed, cannot know what the guy was thinking on. What part of these statements should I believe? (Tarasenko @ ARMY 2017):

“[The development] is at the stage of finalizing the image of the plane. It will be a gradual transition from MiG-31 to PAK DA,”

--> So the preliminary design is almost ready [2017]. It will be similar to MiG-31? Or is he meaning that MiG-31 will be substituted progressively?

The plane, however, will not be just a modernization of MiG-31, it will be an entirely new machine, having “the ability to operate in space, new weapons, new speeds, new operational range,” Tarasenko told Zvezda TV channel on Tuesday.

--> So their proposal will be similar to MiG-31 but above and beyond in terms of capabilities. Confirmed it will operate in space, faster and longer ranged than MiG-31

“It will be an entirely new plane, where entirely new technologies to operate in the Arctic zone will be utilized. This plane will safeguard the whole border of our homeland. Later, the project will become unmanned,” TASS quoted Tarasenko as saying.  

“We’re shaping our technical offer, so that the customer would make a decision on the need to develop the plane. … According to our internal estimates, we should make it to the serial development in 2025,” Tarasenko told RT.

--> MiG is preparing a technical offer to MoD with which they can be ready for series by 2025. Does this proposal include engines that actually exist and can fly to space or Mach 4? Would really love to know those

So, development has not even been approved by MoD [2017], Bondarev said the R&D for the plane would not start before 2019 but we should believe it is going to be ready for commissioning in 2025, is that?

From Slyusar @ARMY 2018

- The life cycle of the MiG-31 was nearing completion in the next 10 years he will be replaced by the new fighter-interceptor MiG-41, it is the same PACK of DP. At what stage of implementation is the project?

We are at the stage of research. She will answer all the questions – what the car needs, what is the concept of engagement, what characteristics it must have, what problems to solve which we have scientific and technical potential, allowing these challenges to provide answers. This is a job for a few years.

--> So the preliminary design will still go on for some years [the words preliminary design are not mentioned here and more clear statements say the contrary], if I understand correctly. It thought it was almost ready by 2017...

- There will be a new glider?
- We are working on a new concept, Yes. And the creation of this aviation system plan to use new technologies and materials.
- Have plans to increase performance in speed, range, ability to work in space?
Everything will be from the tasks to depend on. I will say in space to fly and fly into space.

--> Unclear what the plane will do, this will be the result of the preliminary design

- Assuming optimistic scenario, when you may receive this machine?
- It has to be logically synchronized with the completion of the scheduled resource of the MiG-31. By this time you will need a new car to develop – we are talking about the turn of 2030.

--> Now we are gone to 2030. [To understand well this part is necessary to take into account that in the case of the combat aircrafts, the prototypes seem ordered by and delivered to the Russian Armed Forces, unlike in the case of the auxiliary aircrafts, where the procedure is different. 2025 can be refered to delivery of the prototype for the first fly, and 2030 to delivery of serial production, like has been more clearly expressed in other cases.] But still irrelevant [relevant, but unclear], since they don't know what they will offer and much less what the MoD will say [this would be absurd].

As said, this is the beginning of the preliminary development for the plane. We don't know yet what the plane will do and much less when it will be commissioned. [the parts that are more clearly understandable, marked in green, must not be disturbed by more unclear statements. Also you missed other more clear interviews]

The fifth generation MiG-41 fighter is being created in Russia

Alexander Peshkov

13:09 08/08/2018

In the Russian aircraft corporation "MiG" are going to create a fifth-generation MiG-41, said the company's CEO Ilya Tarasenko.

Photo: Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

According to Tarasenko, this project has been conducted for a long time, and soon the aircraft will be presented to the public.

"No, this is not a mythical project, a project for the MiG long-standing, now we are intensively conducting these works under the auspices of the UAC and will soon present them to the public," he said.

Tarasenko stressed that the project is in the stage of experimental and scientific work.

Earlier in an interview with the television company "Star" Tarasenko said that the fifth-generation aircraft will be built on a two-engine scheme .

According to him, the long-range interception aircraft complex will be built using low-visibility technology, will be able to work in near space.

eehnie wrote:

- The life cycle of the MiG-31 was nearing completion in the next 10 years he will be replaced by the new fighter-interceptor MiG-41, it is the same PACK of DP. At what stage of implementation is the project?

We are at the stage of research. She will answer all the questions – what the car needs, what is the concept of engagement, what characteristics it must have, what problems to solve which we have scientific and technical potential, allowing these challenges to provide answers. This is a job for a few years.

--> So the preliminary design will still go on for some years [the words preliminary design are not mentioned here and more clear statements say the contrary], if I understand correctly. It thought it was almost ready by 2017...

--> Now we are gone to 2030. [To understand well this part is necessary to take into account that in the case of the combat aircrafts, the prototypes seem ordered by and delivered to the Russian Armed Forces, unlike in the case of the auxiliary aircrafts, where the procedure is different. 2025 can be refered to delivery of the prototype for the first fly, and 2030 to delivery of serial production, like has been more clearly expressed in other cases.] But still irrelevant [relevant, but unclear], since they don't know what they will offer and much less what the MoD will say [this would be absurd].

As said, this is the beginning of the preliminary development for the plane. We don't know yet what the plane will do and much less when it will be commissioned. [the parts that are more clearly understandable, marked in green, must not be disturbed by more unclear statements. Also you missed other more clear interviews]

Being serious no-one can expect to have full information of what the UAC achieved this year. It would reach easily the US Secretary of Defense.

Taking into account that you are asking, I marked in red what I think you are understanding wrongly from the quotes. And in green what you maybe understanding correctly. Including also some comment (mine) in blue and between [].

Also this article also offers important and clear additional information, bolded in green:

https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201808171309-o5u6.htm
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ftvzvezda.ru%2Fnews%2Fopk%2Fcontent%2F201808171309-o5u6.htm

The fifth generation MiG-41 fighter is being created in Russia

Alexander Peshkov

13:09 08/08/2018

In the Russian aircraft corporation "MiG" are going to create a fifth-generation MiG-41, said the company's CEO Ilya Tarasenko.

Photo: Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

According to Tarasenko, this project has been conducted for a long time, and soon the aircraft will be presented to the public.

"No, this is not a mythical project, a project for the MiG long-standing, now we are intensively conducting these works under the auspices of the UAC and will soon present them to the public," he said.

Tarasenko stressed that the project is in the stage of experimental and scientific work.

Earlier in an interview with the television company "Star" Tarasenko said that the fifth-generation aircraft will be built on a two-engine scheme .

According to him, the long-range interception aircraft complex will be built using low-visibility technology, will be able to work in near space.

The Russian interceptor MiG-41 will become the fastest fighter in the world
Vadim Kolesnikov 12:04 12/12/2017
The head of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security, Viktor Bondarev, said that the new long-range intercept aircraft complex will be represented.
Российский перехватчик МиГ-41 станет самым быстрым истребителем в мире
Photo: Alexey Ivanov / TRK Zvezda
The MiG-41, a long-range long-range intercept aircraft complex - PAC DP, [color=#009900]will be the fastest fighter in the world and will be able to deal with hypersonic missiles, Senator Viktor Bondarev told Interfax.

[b]"It is assumed that the MiG-41 will be the fastest in the world, the most invisible for radars. It will be able to withstand not only standard low-maneuverable threats like cruise missiles, bombers, drones, but also threats from hypersonic missiles, "said the former commander of the Russian Air Force.

According to him, the range of PAK DP is laid in the range from 700 to 1500 kilometers. The armament will be the R-37 air-to-air missile, as well as the next-generation missiles.

"The MiG-41 is under development. About his admission to the troops to speak prematurely, but most likely it will not be until 2025, "added Bondarev.

It is assumed that the MiG-41 should replace the MiG-31 interceptor, whose service life expires in 2028.

Recall, in mid-December, the general designer of the United Aircraft Corporation Sergei Korotkov said that the work on the establishment of PAK DP may begin as early as next year.

At the moment there is a process of discussing the technical assignment for the aircraft between the developer of RAC "MiG" and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. It is not excluded that the future interceptor will be able to perform tasks in near space . ■

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05/04/2018
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Earlier this year, Vice President of the Russian United Aircraft Corporation Sergei Korotkov told reporters that work on the creation of a new MiG-41 fighter was continuing.  According to him, this will be a new generation machine that will replace the MiG-31 high-altitude fighter interceptor developed in the mid-1970s.  Also Korotkov said that in the creation of a new car, not only designers OKB im.  Mikoyan, but also representatives of other enterprises of the national defense industry.

Developments are carried out in accordance with the assignment that was prepared by the Russian Ministry of Defense, that is, no work is initiated on initiative (and it has often happened in the past) it is not. The military really needs a new aircraft to replace the deserved MiG-31.

miketheterrible wrote:I'd say wait till 2020 before we get much news.

Reason why, is that will be about the right time we learn of adjustments made in sap 2027 program and the requirements.

George1 wrote:According to the Novosibirsk web resource NGS.NOVOSTI, employees of the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant named after V.P. Chkalov (a branch of Sukhoi Company JSC) warned of massive cuts.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3402362.html

miketheterrible wrote:un named source.  Can we have a bannable offense for people who provide sources that doesn't provide proof?

All this fake news is bugging the rest of us sane people.

Hole wrote:Isn´t it intended to build the MS-21 there?

Hole wrote:You are right. Su-34 and SSJ 100. That makes this "news" even more suspicious.