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Part of a 62 ton drop of humanitarian aid into Deir today.

There are reports of Russia sending regular troops to Syria, any truth to this or just Zionst propaganda?

PapaDragon wrote:

BKP wrote:Mike Whitney's piece discussing what may be the surrepitious massing of a "coalition" invasion force near the Syrian/Jordanian border, with the probable aim of taking Raqqa and Deir Ezzor. Also discusses the apparent preparation for long-term occupation and the formation of a local puppet government. Some quoting of South Front, interestingly, along with other sources.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/24/is-mad-dog-planning-to-invade-east-syria/

Tick-tock Iran...  

Iran needs to arms its proxies and they have lots of ways to do that.

par far wrote:There are reports of Russia sending regular troops to Syria, any truth to this or just Zionst propaganda?

If Putin doesn't want to spend the rest of his life fighting in Syria, he better. Jihadists don't surrender like Ukrainian soldiers do. Idlib has to be bled dry with the blood of millions before the war in Syria can finish. They need to deploy Zoopark 1M to knock out jihadists artillery and deploy Smerch and Tornado G and Msta S to hit jihadists hard. Just a few airstrikes here and there will do nothing.

Russia only will give in big amounts the weakest and oldest armament in its inventories, and only symbolic amounts of stronger armament. Not more.

The US is in a permanent war since at least 2001, and will not stop. Russia will defend its positions without concede territory in Asia, in order to survive. Russia knows that if the war is not in Syria, will be in other place. If the US advances in Syria they will go forward in other places closer to Russia. If the US can not, they will fight in some place with more distance from Russia. This is the reality.

Then, the calls to improve the quality of the armament that Russia sends to Syria or its presence, are not realistic. Russia will not do it unless it becomes necessary. Until now Syria is proving to be able to advance with this armament and with the current Russian presence, while the US is not finding the way to arm properly the Syrian opposition, who have some modern anti-tank weapons but almost nothing else, since the US lacks old material to provide and it is very expensive (and dangerious) to arm them with modern weapons of all the necessary types.

ultimatewarrior wrote:

par far wrote:There are reports of Russia sending regular troops to Syria, any truth to this or just Zionst propaganda?

If Putin doesn't want to spend the rest of his life fighting in Syria, he better. Jihadists don't surrender like Ukrainian soldiers do. Idlib has to be bled dry with the blood of millions before the war in Syria can finish. They need to deploy Zoopark 1M to knock out jihadists artillery and deploy Smerch and Tornado G and Msta S to hit jihadists hard. Just a few airstrikes here and there will do nothing.

Russia really does not to need to send a lot of troops, 7,000-10,000 would do wonders. Russia has been modernizing the military and only way to find how good they are is to test in a real conflict. If Russia sends 7,000 and Iran sends 7,000 that is 14,000 well trained and well equipped troops, send them to the most important areas.

Since Syria is the new premier testing ground for almost everthing related to the Russian military, it might be time to test out the 'new look' brigades, and the battalion tactical groups, etc... We've seen everything from cruise missiles, to strategic bombers, to frigging sapper robots. Its time for the Ground Forces to test their shit out.

Why is this pointless discussion in this thread and not the other one? Or even the Talking Bollocks thread?

Papadragons interpretation of events may be right 

https://warisboring.com/americas-emerging-little-sparta-in-the-middle-east/

par far wrote:..................

Russia really does not to need to send a lot of troops, 7,000-10,000 would do wonders. Russia has been modernizing the military and only way to find how good they are is to test in a real conflict. If Russia sends 7,000 and Iran sends 7,000 that is 14,000 well trained and well equipped troops, send them to the most important areas.

This is without a doubt dumbest possible thing Russia could do. They should be reducing number of troops in the field. What they have there already is way too much.

Russia has been modernizing it's military but purpose that military is to protect Russia and enforce Russian interests, not screw around in some sand filled sh*thole without reason or purpose.

I believe this is just some Iranian bullshit rumor. No way Russian public would go for it. One of great advantages of having a conscript army in the age of Internet.  

par far wrote:............

Iran needs to arms its proxies and they have lots of ways to do that.

With what? And trough what ways? What do they have that can not be more easily obtained elsewhere and with much less hassle?

Only military value Iran can possibly have here is amount of meat they can throw at the enemy. Problem is that they are not doing it.

Like their Saudi cousins they expect other to do their dirty work. Saudis at least pay good money to Americans for services rendered. Iranians expect Russia to do it for free.
The fu*king nerve on those parasites.

Hopefully, with this thing winding down, Mattis & Co will soon be kicking down Ayatollah's door and there will be some much deserved karmic realignment.

1:23 "enough of the Allah Akbar"
https://twitter.com/mmagreen/status/856696358287413249

Map shows how #SAA and Hezbollah managed to successfully counter-attack against #FSA rebels in #Hama (#حماه). (30 March to 24 April)

https://twitter.com/_Misrati/status/856606132424626176

YPG positions are bombed yesterday night by TurAF, besides PKK targets in Sinjar in Iraq.

Unfortunately US and EU warmongers will directly confront Turkey for their puppets not to be perished by TAF.

After referandum I really wanna see how unpredictable "or rather, unable" Turkish diplomacy will handle this complicated issue.

As for me Assad's legitimacy is no more, but at least Wahhabi extremism would not be used to occupy Syria by so called "liberation fighters".

Unending Shia&Sunni split will cause both sides to lose , ie Turkey and Iran.

As for Saudi, I dont have any pity...

PapaDragon wrote:
Russia has been modernizing it's military but purpose that military is to protect Russia and enforce Russian interests, not screw around in some sand filled sh*thole without reason or purpose.

The problem for Russia is how to preserve its presence or bases in Syria, hence maintain its image as a rising new power, without getting bogged down in an awful quagmire.
As for the value of testing new weapons in Syria (i.e. against Assad's enemies) if Russia basically wants to be stronger vis a vis the US or West, Syria isn't a good proving ground because the fighting is too unconventional/assymetric. Unless of course Russia opts to test its jets etc against Turkish or NATO counterparts but that would be a tad risky.

No way Russian public would go for it.

Yeah high casualties would erode Putin's position at home.  

PapaDragon wrote:

par far wrote:..................

Russia really does not to need to send a lot of troops, 7,000-10,000 would do wonders. Russia has been modernizing the military and only way to find how good they are is to test in a real conflict. If Russia sends 7,000 and Iran sends 7,000 that is 14,000 well trained and well equipped troops, send them to the most important areas.

This is without a doubt dumbest possible thing Russia could do. They should be reducing number of troops in the field. What they have there already is way too much.

Russia has been modernizing it's military but purpose that military is to protect Russia and enforce Russian interests, not screw around in some sand filled sh*thole without reason or purpose.

I believe this is just some Iranian bullshit rumor. No way Russian public would go for it. One of great advantages of having a conscript army in the age of Internet.  

par far wrote:............

Iran needs to arms its proxies and they have lots of ways to do that.

With what? And trough what ways? What do they have that can not be more easily obtained elsewhere and with much less hassle?

Only military value Iran can possibly have here is amount of meat they can throw at the enemy. Problem is that they are not doing it.

Like their Saudi cousins they expect other to do their dirty work. Saudis at least pay good money to Americans for services rendered. Iranians expect Russia to do it for free.
The fu*king nerve on those parasites.

Hopefully, with this thing winding down, Mattis & Co will soon be kicking down Ayatollah's door and there will be some much deserved karmic realignment.

That rumour was not Iranian, it was started by NATO assholes, the reason Russia should send troops is because if Syria fall than the Zionists are coming after Russia. Iran has payed a huge price in this, they have lost at least a hundred Generals, officers and other high ranking military and 1000's troops(if you check out the small websites and other concerning Iran, you will see funerals being held for dead Iranians(that died in Syria) taking place and it was in the thousands. Mattis motherfucker and Co, aren't kicking down Iran's door anytime soon, they did not attack Iran in 2006(their best chance, this was when US had a resason and military/politically chance) and Iran was weak), now Iran can't being bullied.) If Iran was attacked you can bet your ass that Russia is helping them out. The war in Syria is very important for Russia because if they don't kill the terrorists in Syria, than terrorists that are in Syria are being sent to Russia. And Iran is very important because Iran is being as a buffer and Iran has given billions of dollars to Russia in business(you probably did not know that.)

Why not deploy Zoopark 1M and Smerch at least 40 km from the front? It is not a good thing if Russia is unwilling to stomach a single casualty in war. A nation that is a coward cannot fight.

ultimatewarrior wrote:Why not deploy Zoopark 1M and Smerch at least 40 km from the front? It is not a good thing if Russia is unwilling to stomach a single casualty in war. A nation that is a coward cannot fight.

Let it go. You are starting to sound like a scratched record.

No idea how valid this is but it looks like someone is claiming that ISIS is not cut off yet in northern Raqqa.

Prices in rebel held Idlib.
Someone is making money, for sure.

Gvozdika shells for $250 each,casing included


AGS-17 "Plamya" for $1900


Chinese PPSh for $250


T-55 Shells for $60 each


Ak-103,90% clean,goes for $2400


Used Ak-74 for $950


Ak-74s for $1150 each


Steyr Aug A1 for $1000 in Syria, 90% clean



The SPG-9 for $22000

All of these for $1500
Note the 3UBK10-1 100 mm tank gun round with 9M117 guided missile!


Beretta M38/42 for $140


The Metis ATGM missile was for $2000
Metis ATGM from Bulgarian VMZ Sopot plant, judging by the number 11 in the double circle


Mujahid BMWs  $13500


The first trader to sell Galaxy S8+s in the "Liberated Areas" is selling one for $1050 in Al Atareb


Galaxy S7 Edges are for $450


Box of 82mm mortars for $130


D-30 (122mm) shells & casing for $175


12.5,14.5,and 23mm weapon systems & sniper rifles are made by some dude fro Idlib
He makes them by request i.e. custom-made




PKC barrel for $150


Russian PKC MG ammo boxes for $135 each

JohninMK wrote:

ultimatewarrior wrote:Why not deploy Zoopark 1M and Smerch at least 40 km from the front? It is not a good thing if Russia is unwilling to stomach a single casualty in war. A nation that is a coward cannot fight.

Let it go. You are starting to sound like a scratched record.

Just put him on ignore list and don't waste time. It's ultron.

par far wrote:.............

That rumour was not Iranian, it was started by NATO assholes, the reason Russia should send troops is because if Syria fall than the Zionists are coming after Russia....

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If ''Zionists'' are coming after anyone then Russia will be at bottom of their list.

It is Iran that has a ''Zionist'' problem so if it bothers them so much they should get their over-advertised asses into gear and start pulling their weight because Russia pretty much covered all their bases in Syria (bot metaphorically and literally).

calm wrote:Prices in rebel held Idlib.
Someone is making money, for sure................

The first trader to sell Galaxy S8+s in the "Liberated Areas" is selling one for $1050 in Al Atareb
.........

These dickheads will probably be first to get XBOX Scorpio...