BMP-1 and BMP-2 in Russian Army

are these just standard models with 7.62mm?

franco wrote:the modernized infantry fighting vehicle BMP-1 with a 30 millimeter combat module," the document stated.

GarryB wrote:

are these just standard models with 7.62mm?

Yes.

I have seen a lot of prototypes with all sorts of fancy gun and missile turrets but I have never seen any in actual service to be honest.

Of course the vast majority are not even troop transports and have no turret at all like all the MTLB based ACRV command vehicles in every motor rifle and tank division...

Interlinked wrote:Yes, what Garry said. The MTLB was originally designed to be a lightly armoured utility vehicle for towing stuff, not really a frontline troop transport. It only barely fulfils the same protection requirements as the BTR-60PB. Most of the MTLBs in existence are used in non-combat roles, and the ones that are used as APCs and IFVs were modified for that purpose solely because the MTLB can go where any other land vehicle can't.

kopyo-21 wrote:Looking gsh-23B 23mm guns in 2 photos of MT-LBMs, they seem to be 2 versions of Gsh-23B, one has normal barrel and other has much longer barrel. However I have found no any information about the longer barrel version of Gsh-23B.

Normal barrel




Much longer barrel

Would be nicer with an ags and konkurs lol

The gun is called KPVB

Hole wrote:First pictures from Vitaly of the rehearsal: No modernised BMP-2´s. Sorry.

Some sources metioned that both versions , Mt-lbm 6mb3 and Mt-lbm 6m1b4, equipt double barrel 23mm gun, Kord 12.7mm HMG and Ags-17/30 30mm AGL. The inly different between them is the 23mm Gsh-23K gun (The 6M1B4 version) and the Gsh-23B or Gsh-23V (The 6M1B3 version). This Gsh-23K gun can explain about the Gsh-23 gun with longer barrels we have seen.

The gun was also put an this MT-LB.

This Gsh-23 with longer barrels certainly is a rare sight. As already pointed out, the longer barrels probably do not have that big of an impact on the performance of the rounds anyway.

The Kurganets or T-15 simply are not fully developed yet, and i would prefer to see some stuff showcased that is actually in service and actively being modernized.

"Uralvagonzavod" modernizes the "kopeyk" BMP-1 will be turned into "Basurmanina"

The Ministry of Defense is completing the tests of the modernized infantry combat vehicle BMP-1, the project received the code "Basurmanin." The machine was equipped with a modern guidance system, automatic target tracking and a thermal imager. Adopted for more than half a century ago, "pennies" (as they are called in army slang) were used in dozens of local conflicts around the world. BMP-1 is now obsolete, but the military department decided to give her a new life.


Within the framework of the project "Basurmanin" on the range of the 38th Research Institute of Armored Vehicles (Kubinka, Moscow Region), there are climatic and electromagnetic tests of BMP-1 with a new combat unit. This was reported to Izvestiya by the Russian Ministry of Defense. Supplies to the troops of modernized vehicles will begin in 2019.

The developer of the project "Basurmanin" - JSC "Scientific and Production Corporation" Uralvagonzavod. " Representatives of the company confirmed that the relevant work is underway, but they declined to comment further.

Upgraded BMP-1 retain the standard body, power unit and the chassis. These elements have a life cycle of 30-40 years. The weapons system will be completely replaced. The machine will receive a combat module, borrowed from the BTR-82A. This is an armored tower with a gun, a machine gun and a set of smoke grenade launchers. The main armament is an automatic rapid-fire weapon 2A72 caliber 30 mm. The auxiliary machine gun is 7.62 mm PKT. The new module can be used against lightly armored vehicles and low-flying targets - helicopters and drones.

Combat unit is equipped with a combined sight TKN-4GA with a thermal imager. The gun can use artillery shells with remote blasting.

BMP-1 was adopted in 1966. This is the first armored fighting armored floating caterpillar in the USSR, released in the series. "Kopeyku" was developed to transport and support motorized rifles on the battlefield. Her weapons allowed to fight even with armored vehicles of the enemy. Initially, the BMP installed 73-mm anti-tank gun 2A82 "Thunder", 7.62mm machine gun and ATGM "Malyutka."

At low cost, the army will receive an effective combat vehicle, said independent expert Alexei Khlopotov to Izvestia.

- For the first time plans to modernize BMP-1 appeared in the first half of the 1990s. Then it was supposed to put modules on it from BMD-2, - he said. - The capabilities of the BTR-82A armament are sufficient for modern combat. If necessary, you can even fight with tanks. However, you need to further strengthen the armor - for example, install a dynamic defense.

According to Alexei Khlopotov, now the army is forming new divisions, so the need for armored vehicles has increased.

"Accordingly, modernization of various equipment is underway," the expert continued. - For example, BMP-2 is being upgraded to the modern level. In addition, the updated machines have some export potential.

Today, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and Rosgvardia use about 1 thousand BMP-1, while another 7 thousand are in storage at the Ministry of Defense. Also, almost 7 thousand "kopecks" are used in foreign armies - in more than 30 countries."