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nomadski wrote:@papadragon
Agree action on the ground and air in Syria will now determine outcomes . Every Child now knows what this yank/ terror axis is all about . Information is out there . But material conditions on the battlefield need to change . ......
par far wrote:U.S. Coalition Cleansing Raqqa of Arabs to Expand Kurdish “Autonomous Region."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-coalition-cleansing-raqqa-of-arabs-to-expand-kurdish-autonomous-region/5595558
All this points to the US using their divide and conquer strategies, this can all be thrown back at the US, if Russia Iran, Turkey, Iraq and SAA and Allies work together, also how ill the Arabs react to this, is the big question.
JohninMK wrote:This damage won't be repaired in a hurry. But then true believers have no need for electricity, their lives are powered by faith from the 8/9th Century.
Oh and Assad was apparently supplying the electricity at no cost, the local terrorists were charging locals for it. Looks like they got too greedy and killed the Golden Goose.
Bassem @BBassem7
Rebels in Idlib blew up high voltage power lines in struggle to control electricity distribution to the city. Idlib now has no power.
eehnie wrote:par far wrote:U.S. Coalition Cleansing Raqqa of Arabs to Expand Kurdish “Autonomous Region."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-coalition-cleansing-raqqa-of-arabs-to-expand-kurdish-autonomous-region/5595558
All this points to the US using their divide and conquer strategies, this can all be thrown back at the US, if Russia Iran, Turkey, Iraq and SAA and Allies work together, also how ill the Arabs react to this, is the big question.
Turkey, the same Turkey that has inside the own territory US nuclear weapons looking at Russia?
This article is fake. With what forces would be doing the US this supposed cleansing in favor of the Kurds? The US has not enough for something like that.
Do not you realize that something like this would make every Arab going out of the joint forces with the Kurds? Do not you realize that something like that would mean an internal war between the forces attacking Raqqa?
Seriously, I can not believe to see here some people as weak to the anti-Kurd propaganda of the West.
President Emmanuel Macron said in remarks published on Wednesday that he saw no legitimate successor to Syrian President Bashar Assad and that France no longer considered his departure a pre-condition to resolving the six-year conflict.
"The new perspective that I have had on this subject is that I have not stated that Bashar Assad's departure is a pre-condition for everything because nobody has shown me a legitimate successor," Macron said in an interview to eight European newspapers.
He said Assad was an enemy of the Syrian people, but not of France and that Paris' priority was a total commitment to fighting terrorist groups and ensuring the country did not become a failed state.
His comments are in stark contrast to the previous French administration and echo Moscow's stance that there was no viable alternative to Assad.
PapaDragon wrote:Vann7 wrote:...........
Russia needs a serious change in policy. and im not proposing them to start war right now ,
but that he needs an intelligent arm race now ,to prepare Russia for a world war 3 in many frontlines at same time. he needs those Kirov battleships for the Serbia war ,that will start in near future..........
Vann with all undue respect please shut the f*ck up and don't rant about stuff you know nothing about.
If "Serbia war" happens we will be doing it solo just like always and in case you need geography lesson, Serbia is landlocked so unless someone renames ammo caliber to "Kirov" there will be no Kirovs in that scenario.
PapaDragon wrote:
Vann with all undue respect please shut the f*ck up and don't rant about stuff you know nothing about.
If "Serbia war" happens we will be doing it solo just like always and in case you need geography lesson, Serbia is landlocked so unless someone renames ammo caliber to "Kirov" there will be no Kirovs in that scenario.
Vann7 wrote:PapaDragon wrote:
Vann with all undue respect please shut the f*ck up and don't rant about stuff you know nothing about.
If "Serbia war" happens we will be doing it solo just like always and in case you need geography lesson, Serbia is landlocked so unless someone renames ammo caliber to "Kirov" there will be no Kirovs in that scenario.
I don't need your respect. you are a fucking moron.
Everyone knows Serbia is a landlocked nation. But because your incredibly dumb.
You are not aware about NATO Tomahawk cruise missiles ,that they are not usually launched from the land. but from the Sea. Russia will need a powerful navy ,ideally closer to US navy in italy waters positions ,to intercept their missiles.to defend Serbia if it is attacked just like Syria. With a powerful navy also can be used as long range artillery to direct attacks painted or coordinated by radio by the Serbian army. Russia Airforce could assist flying
over the bulgarian side. But cruise missiles will need to be stopped. And since NATO have many military bases in ITALY ,it can launch a lot of cruise missiles on Serbia to overwhelm its defenses. With a strong naval force of Russia , it can serve as deterrence to NATO to stop
any attack. And no , you SOLO will do no shit. Serbia alone attacked from all sides the Syrian way by NATO will be overwhelmed. specially if NATO use well trained ISIS like fighters ,
with suicide bomber tactics.
ATLASCUB wrote:
No well funded rat tag group will overwhelm Serbia. Only a NATO intervention, under whatever pretext (perhaps to erradicate these very same terrorist as Vann's puts it) will. Russia can't do jack shit for Serbia. It lost Yugoslavia a long time ago. Should focus on saving Ukraine and keeping Belarus.
I'll say though Vann's diatribes are easier to stomach that the blind ignorance and willfull denial of some people here in certain subjects...eehnie with the Kurds being an easy example. The Iran/Russian strategic partnership being another for some folks.
Vann7 wrote:..........
Russia needs to help Serbia ,even in a limited way.. if not do it. it will be betraying their allies and send the wrong message to the entire world ....
Vann7 wrote:.....So if Russia encouraged Serbia to resist American Imperialism ,then now it can't tell them Good luck. fight on your own. ....
ATLASCUB wrote:I'll say though Vann's diatribes are easier to stomach that the blind ignorance and willfull denial of some people here in certain subjects...eehnie with the Kurds being an easy example. The Iran/Russian strategic partnership being another for some folks.
Putin to Kurdistan24: We understand sensitivity of Kurdish cause
Vladimir Putin, the Russian President speaking to Kurdistan24 in Moscow, June 15, 2017. (Photo: Kurdistan24)
MOSCOW, Russia (Kurdistan24) – The Russian President on Thursday praised the Kurdistan Region Peshmerga forces in the fight against terror and said that Russia’s relations with Kurds would continue.
Speaking to a Kurdistan24 correspondent in Moscow, Vladimir Putin praised the role of Kurdish forces in the fight against terrorism and reiterated Russia-Kurds good relations.
“We are always been in good relations with the Kurds and there is no reason to end such relations with Kurds,” Putin said.
“We have to fulfill our current mission which is the war against terrorism,” he added.
Regarding the cooperation between Russia and Kurdistan Region, Putin referred to the last visit of the Region’s delegation headed by the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) PM Nechirvan Barzani, stating “Such relations will be further developed and we actively work with Iraq on the matter.”
“We understand the sensitivity of the Kurdish cause,” Putin said, and referring to the Kurdistan Region independence referendum added that “our position on the matter has been clear since long time ago; our position would be within the international law.”
In a meeting on June 7, chaired by the Kurdistan Region President Masoud Barzani, the political parties in Kurdistan agreed to hold an independence referendum on Sep. 25, 2017.
In reaction to that decision, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova on June 8, said that “Russia supports the unity and territorial integrity of the Iraqi state with unconditional respect for and observance of the legitimate rights of all its ethnic and religious groups, of which the Kurds are the largest.”
eehnie wrote:par far wrote:U.S. Coalition Cleansing Raqqa of Arabs to Expand Kurdish “Autonomous Region."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-coalition-cleansing-raqqa-of-arabs-to-expand-kurdish-autonomous-region/5595558
All this points to the US using their divide and conquer strategies, this can all be thrown back at the US, if Russia Iran, Turkey, Iraq and SAA and Allies work together, also how ill the Arabs react to this, is the big question.
Turkey, the same Turkey that has inside the own territory US nuclear weapons looking at Russia?
eehnie wrote:ATLASCUB wrote:I'll say though Vann's diatribes are easier to stomach that the blind ignorance and willfull denial of some people here in certain subjects...eehnie with the Kurds being an easy example. The Iran/Russian strategic partnership being another for some folks.
Some people is very far of the reality here. We have to hate the Kurds because they have 120mm Sovietic/Russian man-portable mortars payed by the US, while Turkey is a lovely partner, despite to be the base of US nuclear weapons targeting Russia. WTF.
Blind ignorance and willful denial is to see not that the alone option for the US and Israel in Syria is to provoke a war of the Kurds with the allies of Russia.
Something that proves how Russia is fairly more resistant to the Western trolling about the Kurds:
http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/c1afb730-007b-464e-9e6e-99c56d903334
Putin to Kurdistan24: We understand sensitivity of Kurdish cause
Vladimir Putin, the Russian President speaking to Kurdistan24 in Moscow, June 15, 2017. (Photo: Kurdistan24)
MOSCOW, Russia (Kurdistan24) – The Russian President on Thursday praised the Kurdistan Region Peshmerga forces in the fight against terror and said that Russia’s relations with Kurds would continue.
Speaking to a Kurdistan24 correspondent in Moscow, Vladimir Putin praised the role of Kurdish forces in the fight against terrorism and reiterated Russia-Kurds good relations.
“We are always been in good relations with the Kurds and there is no reason to end such relations with Kurds,” Putin said.
“We have to fulfill our current mission which is the war against terrorism,” he added.
Regarding the cooperation between Russia and Kurdistan Region, Putin referred to the last visit of the Region’s delegation headed by the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) PM Nechirvan Barzani, stating “Such relations will be further developed and we actively work with Iraq on the matter.”
“We understand the sensitivity of the Kurdish cause,” Putin said, and referring to the Kurdistan Region independence referendum added that “our position on the matter has been clear since long time ago; our position would be within the international law.”
In a meeting on June 7, chaired by the Kurdistan Region President Masoud Barzani, the political parties in Kurdistan agreed to hold an independence referendum on Sep. 25, 2017.
In reaction to that decision, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova on June 8, said that “Russia supports the unity and territorial integrity of the Iraqi state with unconditional respect for and observance of the legitimate rights of all its ethnic and religious groups, of which the Kurds are the largest.”
Very recent.
Airman wrote:
Russia Iran, Turkey, Iraq and Syrian Government must work together against YPG and US.
https://twitter.com/Fox61A/status/877326681337348096
https://twitter.com/metesohtaoglu/status/877140490608672772
Turkish Army is preparing an assault against YPG to capture Tell Rifaat, Shaykh Issa and Menagh(and maybe Afrin?). Syrian government closed the roads between Afrin and Aleppo several days ago.
https://southfront.org/video-government-forces-seized-large-isis-tank-workshop-near-resafa-in-raqqah-province/lycantrop wrote:to take with a grain of salt...
U.S. EQ-4 GLOBAL HAWK SHOT DOWN BY RUSSIAN S-300 OVER MEDITERANEAN SEA
http://halturnershow.com/index.php/news/world-news/655-breaking-russia-fires-s-300-out-over-mediterranean
Victor Simakov
Russian Consulate: Russia could support Kurdish Independence
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Russian Consulate: Russia could support Kurdish Independence
The Consulate-General of Russia in the Kurdistan Region, Victor Simakov. He has been in Erbil for a year, said that he feels very close to the Kurdish community since they are an open and understanding people. Previously, he was employed at Russia's Consulate in Palestine.
Tag : Kurdistan Russia Moscow Iraq Referendum
The Consulate-General of Russia in the Kurdistan Region, Victor Simakov in an interview with K24 broadcast December 11 said Russia was one of the first countries among the world most powerful that opened a Consulate in Erbil.
Simakov, who has been in Erbil for a year, said that he feels very close to the Kurdish community since they are an open and understanding people. Previously, he was employed at Russia's Consulate in Palestine.
Asked about why Russia did not militarily assist the Kurdistan Region in the war against IS Simakov replied, “We need time to work carefully and to clarify our position according to this condition.”
Simakov continued that though Russia has not given heavy weapons to Peshmerga forces, they provided them with other military equipment necessary for Peshmerga like chemical-proof masks protecting them from IS chemical attacks and also pointed out Russia helped Kurdish forces fighting against IS in Syria.
Regarding Russia’s stance towards the Kurdistan Region’s independence, Simakov said, “we support a country in the context of international law with the name 'Iraq,' and this will help fight IS more effectively. Though there have been lots of conflicts among Shia, Sunni, and Kurds in Iraq, they have lived together throughout history. I think the related parties can compromise once more and maintain the union among them.”
However, in referencing the former Soviet Union when it collapsed in the early 1990s Simakov said: “There is a UN bylaw in which it has clearly been mentioned that each nation has the right to determine its destiny. My stance is that independence is the right of every nation.” He continued, “It’s for the different Iraqi components to decide on this matter. We support whatever decision they make, provided that no outsiders contribute. Russia, as one of the five permanent members of the Security Council always supports international laws. If any of the Iraqi sides--without any outside interference ….decides to become independent, Russia will respect their decision.” He added.
Regarding the Kurdistan Region’s potential to declare independence, while Palestine and Kosovo—countries that announced independence but failed to receive appropriate support by other superpowers, Simakov said, “The U.S recognized Kosovo, but Russia has not so far. And the only reason for that is, Russia relies on the international laws. Kosovo separated from Serbia in an illegal way. They must have conducted a referendum to gain the opinion of Kosovo people on the separation first.”
Simakov continued “As for Palestine, Russia always supports the Palestinian government and has cooperated with them in establishing many internal institutions and committees regarding Palestine-related issues. Palestine’s case was decided in the Security Council in 1947 to be given this right. Even the United States voted to the decision." Regarding Russia’s recent attacks on Syria and criticisms that it only targets anti-regime forces rather than IS, Simakov said Russia became involved in Syria based on the regimes' request to confront Islamic State (IS).
“From September 3, we started serious combat against IS. Before Russia entered Syria, President Vladimir Putin informed all sides during a UN meeting that we are going to fight against IS. All the members, including the United Stets of America, Germany, the European Union, and all other member-states in the coalition against IS were informed. Even before we started our attacks against IS many media outlets said that Russia is secretly taking part in the Syrian war, all of which were just baseless accusations.”
“On October 7, Deputy Defense Minister of Russia [Anatoly Ivanovich Antonov] invited all the military officials of those countries to Moscow and informed them about Russia's decision. We had prepared a concise plan on how to confront and destroy IS and delivered it to all the representatives of the countries in Moscow.”
Simakov also stated that other groups like Jabhat al-Nusra, armed Turkmen forces as well as the Islamic State are referred to as terrorist organizations by Russia.
He also mentioned that after the plan was distributed, military representatives of many countries formally asked to share their ideas about the plan and cooperate in confirming the target spots specified as IS bases as being true and whether there were any shortcomings in the plan.
“Though, unfortunately, none of these countries have had had a clear response. Not Washington, nor Britain, and even the Arab countries that contribute to anti-IS coalition responded to us.” Simakov said.
“Our purpose is not to control Syria, but to destroy the Islamic State. It’s for this purpose that we always ask other countries to reveal their position on the groups that we attack them. Nobody can deny this evidence,” he added.
Regarding US-Russian relations Simakov stated, “Russia has lots of conflicts with the U.S but we insist ... that we now have a mutual enemy, so we need to work on that ... Russia’s main purpose for negotiating with Syria and other countries is to destroy IS in Iraq and Syria.”
Russia’s Consul-General in Erbil claimed that Russian President Vladimir Putin twice mentioned that Russia is in Syria to destroy IS, not to protect Bashar al-Assad's regime. Russia believes that Syria needs reform but that this will be declared in two stages, both of which are important to Russia and are complementary to each other. The purpose of the first phase is to destroy IS while the second phase concerns reform though it was unclear what the details of such a reform would look like.
Simakov also mentioned that the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Sergey Lavrov, has attended all events on resolving the Syrian crisis in Geneva and Vienna, and always openly expressed the way Russia intends to eradicate IS.
“We have tried to create a mutual stance among all Syrian opposition groups inside and outside of Syria and to cooperate with them. Russia has a clear policy; it says we negotiate with every party, be it Kurd, Turkmen, or any other party” he explained.
Concerning Russia’s position towards Kurds in Syria as a group that has created partial autonomy, he said Russia constantly negotiates with all representatives, including those in Syrian Kurdistan cantons and have hosted the leader of the Democratic Union Party (PYD), Salih Muslim in Moscow several times.
“Russia clearly says that in any future democratic Syria, the rights of all the different ethnic and religious groups must be protected without discrimination and this is our transparent policy.”
The Russian Consulate-General stated that though Russia has not sent any weapons and ammunition to Syrian Kurds, they are working on furthering cooperation.
Simakov denied Turkish media claims that Russia provided weapons to the armed wing of the PYD, the People’s Protection Units (YPG). “Turks are very good at lying; they have also lied about downing our [Russian] jet many times, and they still continue even with bigger lies. I do apologize for expressing my view in such a non-diplomatic way." his said. Simakov concluded the interview by congratulating the Kurdish people and Peshmerga for retaking Shingal (Sinjar) from the Islamic State last month.
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