"NEW MAP: Military situation at #Syria - #Iraq border. #SAA launched an attack towards T2 pumping station. "
https://mobile.twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/877862240816332801/photo/1
lycantrop wrote:to take with a grain of salt...
U.S. EQ-4 GLOBAL HAWK SHOT DOWN BY RUSSIAN S-300 OVER MEDITERANEAN SEA
http://halturnershow.com/index.php/news/world-news/655-breaking-russia-fires-s-300-out-over-mediterranean
Militarov wrote:lycantrop wrote:to take with a grain of salt...
U.S. EQ-4 GLOBAL HAWK SHOT DOWN BY RUSSIAN S-300 OVER MEDITERANEAN SEA
http://halturnershow.com/index.php/news/world-news/655-breaking-russia-fires-s-300-out-over-mediterranean
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/11755/u-s-air-force-global-hawk-drone-crashes-in-california
PapaDragon wrote:
^ ^ ^
Yep, kinda reminds me of '99. There was a big surge in military aircraft accidents and crashes worldwide during that period.
ATLASCUB wrote:Letters of assurances being sent around. Yeah right....Turks should proceed.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-usa-idUKKBN19D10P?il=0
Kurds will not allow Russia in their territory, if Russia stays silent or joins Syrian-Turkish attack on #Efrin
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877956749910822913
Is that a thin veiled threat....sounds like one, reads like one.... "protect us or else"..... how about NO.
#Efrin journalist Jihad Abdo says there is an embargo by all sides on Efrin: Assad, Nusra, FSA, & Turkey.
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877945654886019072
Syrian Kurdish officials start campaign #SAVEAFRIN on social media.
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877957065754292224
eehnie wrote:ATLASCUB wrote:Letters of assurances being sent around. Yeah right....Turks should proceed.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-usa-idUKKBN19D10P?il=0
Kurds will not allow Russia in their territory, if Russia stays silent or joins Syrian-Turkish attack on #Efrin
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877956749910822913
Is that a thin veiled threat....sounds like one, reads like one.... "protect us or else"..... how about NO.
#Efrin journalist Jihad Abdo says there is an embargo by all sides on Efrin: Assad, Nusra, FSA, & Turkey.
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877945654886019072
Syrian Kurdish officials start campaign #SAVEAFRIN on social media.
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877957065754292224
Propaganda.
ATLASCUB wrote:eehnie wrote:ATLASCUB wrote:Letters of assurances being sent around. Yeah right....Turks should proceed.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-usa-idUKKBN19D10P?il=0
Kurds will not allow Russia in their territory, if Russia stays silent or joins Syrian-Turkish attack on #Efrin
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877956749910822913
Is that a thin veiled threat....sounds like one, reads like one.... "protect us or else"..... how about NO.
#Efrin journalist Jihad Abdo says there is an embargo by all sides on Efrin: Assad, Nusra, FSA, & Turkey.
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877945654886019072
Syrian Kurdish officials start campaign #SAVEAFRIN on social media.
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877957065754292224
Propaganda.
Notwithstanding the fact that anything you disagree with you call propaganda...
May I ask. Propaganda by whom?
=====================================
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC8rkn7XgAMtHBp.jpg:large
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-22/kurdish-oil-appears-bound-for-u-s-again-after-three-year-pause
http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/220620175
This clown wouldn't even be able to find the word referendum in his vocabulary if not for the fact that the U.S gave the OK and is currently supporting such thing. The hard part is out of the way for the Kurds per say...now they have to sell the product to willing buyers, like the E.U and dumb buyers duped by any promises that hold no water in this world - Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Iran, Russia.
"God given right"....that salesmanship.
eehnie wrote:Obviously there is a lot of intoxication to provoke a war of Russia and their allies with the Kurds.......
ATLASCUB wrote:.......
Kurds will not allow Russia in their territory, if Russia stays silent or joins Syrian-Turkish attack on #Efrin
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877956749910822913
Is that a thin veiled threat....sounds like one, reads like one.... "protect us or else"..... how about NO.
..........
ATLASCUB wrote:Letters of assurances being sent around. Yeah right....Turks should proceed.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-usa-idUKKBN19D10P?il=0
Kurds will not allow Russia in their territory, if Russia stays silent or joins Syrian-Turkish attack on #Efrin
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877956749910822913
Is that a thin veiled threat....sounds like one, reads like one.... "protect us or else"..... how about NO.
#Efrin journalist Jihad Abdo says there is an embargo by all sides on Efrin: Assad, Nusra, FSA, & Turkey.
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877945654886019072
Syrian Kurdish officials start campaign #SAVEAFRIN on social media.
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877957065754292224
PapaDragon wrote:eehnie wrote:Obviously there is a lot of intoxication to provoke a war of Russia and their allies with the Kurds.......
Intoxicaton intensifies...
eehnie wrote:ATLASCUB wrote:eehnie wrote:ATLASCUB wrote:Letters of assurances being sent around. Yeah right....Turks should proceed.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-usa-idUKKBN19D10P?il=0
Kurds will not allow Russia in their territory, if Russia stays silent or joins Syrian-Turkish attack on #Efrin
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877956749910822913
Is that a thin veiled threat....sounds like one, reads like one.... "protect us or else"..... how about NO.
#Efrin journalist Jihad Abdo says there is an embargo by all sides on Efrin: Assad, Nusra, FSA, & Turkey.
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877945654886019072
Syrian Kurdish officials start campaign #SAVEAFRIN on social media.
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877957065754292224
Propaganda.
Notwithstanding the fact that anything you disagree with you call propaganda...
May I ask. Propaganda by whom?
=====================================
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC8rkn7XgAMtHBp.jpg:large
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-22/kurdish-oil-appears-bound-for-u-s-again-after-three-year-pause
http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/220620175
This clown wouldn't even be able to find the word referendum in his vocabulary if not for the fact that the U.S gave the OK and is currently supporting such thing. The hard part is out of the way for the Kurds per say...now they have to sell the product to willing buyers, like the E.U and dumb buyers duped by any promises that hold no water in this world - Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Iran, Russia.
"God given right"....that salesmanship.
There is not doubt that the Turks want this attack, but this is only propaganda because goes not in line with what Russia, Syria and their allies have been doing in relation with the Kurds.
Obviously there is a lot of intoxication to provoke a war of Russia and their allies with the Kurds, but is failling. The goal of the intoxication is to burn every option of good understanding of the Kurds with Russia and their allies. Interested on it? US, Israel, Turkey,...
What can do the Kurds to Russia that has not done the Turks before? To allow to the US to put nuclear weapons in the Kurd territory targeting Russia? Sorry but the now "cool" Turks did it before, and keep doing it. There is not a serious reason from a sincere pro-Russian thinking by this way. The serious pro-Russian people blame not the Kurds by what they have not done, and pardon not the Turks as easily with what they have done.
There are other reasons under all this propaganda. It is obvious for me and for all without other interests.
PapaDragon wrote:eehnie wrote:Obviously there is a lot of intoxication to provoke a war of Russia and their allies with the Kurds.......
Intoxicaton intensifies...
Iranian envoy to Ankara confirms Tehran considers PYD, YPG terrorists
https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2017/06/23/iranian-envoy-to-ankara-confirms-tehran-considers-pyd-ypg-terrorists
ATLASCUB wrote:eehnie wrote:ATLASCUB wrote:eehnie wrote:ATLASCUB wrote:Letters of assurances being sent around. Yeah right....Turks should proceed.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-usa-idUKKBN19D10P?il=0
Kurds will not allow Russia in their territory, if Russia stays silent or joins Syrian-Turkish attack on #Efrin
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877956749910822913
Is that a thin veiled threat....sounds like one, reads like one.... "protect us or else"..... how about NO.
#Efrin journalist Jihad Abdo says there is an embargo by all sides on Efrin: Assad, Nusra, FSA, & Turkey.
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877945654886019072
Syrian Kurdish officials start campaign #SAVEAFRIN on social media.
https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/877957065754292224
Propaganda.
Notwithstanding the fact that anything you disagree with you call propaganda...
May I ask. Propaganda by whom?
=====================================
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC8rkn7XgAMtHBp.jpg:large
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-22/kurdish-oil-appears-bound-for-u-s-again-after-three-year-pause
http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/220620175
This clown wouldn't even be able to find the word referendum in his vocabulary if not for the fact that the U.S gave the OK and is currently supporting such thing. The hard part is out of the way for the Kurds per say...now they have to sell the product to willing buyers, like the E.U and dumb buyers duped by any promises that hold no water in this world - Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Iran, Russia.
"God given right"....that salesmanship.
There is not doubt that the Turks want this attack, but this is only propaganda because goes not in line with what Russia, Syria and their allies have been doing in relation with the Kurds.
Obviously there is a lot of intoxication to provoke a war of Russia and their allies with the Kurds, but is failling. The goal of the intoxication is to burn every option of good understanding of the Kurds with Russia and their allies. Interested on it? US, Israel, Turkey,...
What can do the Kurds to Russia that has not done the Turks before? To allow to the US to put nuclear weapons in the Kurd territory targeting Russia? Sorry but the now "cool" Turks did it before, and keep doing it. There is not a serious reason from a sincere pro-Russian thinking by this way. The serious pro-Russian people blame not the Kurds by what they have not done, and pardon not the Turks as easily with what they have done.
There are other reasons under all this propaganda. It is obvious for me and for all without other interests.
The only reason that's not the case is first and foremost because the Kurds are not an independent state and, unlike whatever it might seem to you - they don't formulate foreign policy in the territories they reside - at least not an important decision like that one. If you think for a second that in the pecking order for the Kurds Russia is above U.S.A you're clearly a fool - and I hate to use that word for civil discussion. Who cares if the Kurds get pissed with Russia? The players that shouldn't get pissed with Russia for failing to act and containing the U.S w/ the pro-Kurdistan push are Iraq, Syria, Iran and to a lesser extent Turkey (to build stronger ties - baby steps). Why in hell should Russia bend over for the Kurds and go contrary to the legitimate interest of other established states to please the Kurds so that one day, IF the Kurds get an indepedant state, the Kurds, out of generosity and friendship, will decide not to host U.S bases and missile shields in their territory to please Russia. It has worked out well in Eastern Europe. Give me a fucking break. What you do is you prevent the Kurds from ever getting their own state and you don't have to deal with the "what ifs" nor worry about future developments 20-30 years from now in that regard. Moods change with the wind my friend. Today we're friends, tomorrow we're enemies - just the way it's. If a Kurdistan ever exist, it will be the result, in large part, of U.S hemorrhaging the region and wanting it to exist....not because the Kurd's struggle was this massive upheaval of a Kurdish identity in the Middle East. The plans are clear to everyone and appeasement and diplomatic support by the Russians will only further this agenda of theirs.
Every time Putin speaks about the Kurds he says a lot of nothing and refers to international law as his diplomatic scapegoat tactic - the law that says the legitimate government of the country decides whatever the fuck they want. None of the states with Kurds want a Kurdistan. So that's that.
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