you are confused ,will they use uksk for sams or not?
The UKSK launcher is for anti ship, land attack, and anti sub cruise/ballistic missile weapons only.
In its domestic model it can fire Onyx (which replaces Granit, Vulkan, and Moskit) as the mach 2.5 supersonic anti ship missile with long range (500-700km).
The export model of UKSK wont have Onyx... it will have either Yakhont, or Brahmos depending on the export customer (China will have Yakhont, India will have Brahmos).
The Domestic model can also fire Kalibr a subsonic 2,500km range cruise missile with nuke and conventional payloads with a land attack role.
The Domestic model can also fire the supersonic model of Kalibr that uses a supersonic second stage to attack well defended ships with a mach 2.9 terminal stage.
The Export model has Klub in sub 300km range versions with subsonic all the way and supersonic terminal phase models for both anti ship and land attack purposes.
The Domestic model also has a rocket fired ballistic missile that delivers a torpedo payload at mach 2.5 to targets up to an unknown range in the surface launched models for corvettes to carriers, and also a different missile also with an unknown range in a version of UKSK for submarines.
The Export model also has a rocket fired ballistic missile that delivers a torpedo payload at mach 2.5 to targets up to 40km away in the surface launched models for corvettes to carriers, and also a different missile to 50km range in a version of UKSK for submarines.
Neither the domestic nor the export model is designed to launch SAMs.
They, however, will be compatible with all future land attack, anti ship, and anti sub weapons like the hypersonic Zirconium missile and the Brahmos II.
if they use kastan ciws with its separate missiles ,why then another short range system in launchers?
Kashtan-M will likely be replaced in upgrades on non stealthy vessels by the domestic equivalent of Pantsir-S1.
Using short range lock on after launch 9M100 Morfei missiles as CIWS is rather more stealthy and when used with Duet you get a combination of missiles and guns in a relatively stealthy setup.
I suspect the future of Pantsir-S1 in the navy might depend on the performance of Morfei, but on small patrol boats Pantsir-S1 will continue to be useful as it combines TI and MMW radar and CMW radar to detect targets.
nore granit or vulkan, many missiles will be left behind because of uksk , what a drawback for russian navy whose main and unique assests were exactly those missiles...
Granit is out of production and is largely replaced by Onyx, as is Vulkan.
As you might appreciate the electronics in Onyx is rather more compact and with the use of lighter materials the Onyx is a lighter but still very capable missile. Zirconium uses scramjet propulsion technology to raise speed and range to a new level, while using the sophisticated attack capability of the earlier missiles... as you might imagine the datalinking technology has improved since the early 1980s.
well to sink newest ships you really need a heavy warhed -a 500kg warhead at least , this tiny missiles will not be able to even produce enough damage to disable a warship with prepared crew and good damage control.
Tiny? 9m long and 3 tons is hardly tiny.
The goal is to unify all the anti ship, land attack and anti sub weapons into one launcher that can be fitted to every Russian vessel.
All future missiles of those types will be designed to fit into those launchers.
This means that every Russian vessel will be fully multirole able to hit land, sea surface, and sea sub surface targets with a quick reload at the dock.
It is a tremendous step forward for them... now instead of 5 anti ship missile corvettes and 5 anti sub corvettes and no land attack corvettes because who is going to mount nuclear armed land attack cruise missiles on a corvette in the Soviet Navy they can have 10 corvettes of the same design and when arming them at the dock they can configure the armament to suit the nature of the patrol with a mix of weapon including conventional land attack which was not previously available...
The new launchers are fixed bins with no moving parts like ammo hoists or articulated aiming arms that could fail or need maintainence.
well to sink newest ships you really need a heavy warhed -a 500kg warhead at least , this tiny missiles will not be able to even produce enough damage to disable a warship with prepared crew and good damage control.
The kinetic energy of a 1.5 ton missile with all its fuel burned hitting a ship at over 2 times the speed of sound should do some serious damage even if the warhead does not detonate. In the near future when Zirconium is ready a similar weight missile hitting at mach 5 or mach 6 will result in fragments moving at explosive speeds. (the expansion rate of an exploding grenade produces metal fragments moving at mach 2-3, so 1.5 tons of material moving at twice that speed would be devastating).
More importantly a single Corvette with 8 Onyx or Zirconium missile is very well armed... a Frigate with twice that number even more so.
Kirov class cruisers with 10 UKSK launchers and 80 missiles would be overkill for most targets... especially when you consider every other ship operating with that vessel will also have UKSK launchers as will the subs operating with them too.
The adoption of the UKSK launcher will make training and maintainence easier and cheaper... instead of learning how to use SS-N-22, and SS-N-19, and S-N-12 launchers, plus SS-N-15/16 launchers etc etc there is just one launcher type... one set of sensors to support those launchers... cheaper and easier and also larger production numbers makes production faster and easier.... making smaller numbers of specialised vessels is rather more complex and expensive.
Logistically supporting a larger number of vessels with the same equipment and systems and weapons is much cheaper and simpler... especially for support vessels as fewer types of systems need fewer different types of parts.
He has a point there TR1
Not really. From Corvette up there will actually be rather more missiles carried per vessel and more missiles are always harder to defend against... Harpoon on its own is fairly ordinary... but 6 of them is a real challenge to deal with.
How many Corvettes of the Soviet Navy carried 8 Granits?
How many Frigates carried 16 Granits?
The new Destroyers they are building will likely have 4 UKSK launchers, which means 32 missiles... a Sovremmeny class and a Udaloy class together could carry 8 Moskits and 8 anti sub torpedo carrying SS-N-14s... a new Russian destroyer could carry 8 Onyx missiles, 8 Kalibr anti sub missiles and still have 16 tubes free... the firepower of 4 Soviet Destroyers in terms of its primary armament!
No I don't think there will be a lack of anti ship capability for the Russian Navy with the introduction of the UKSK launchers.
Most importantly just looking at the ship you could know the capability of a Sovremmeny class vessel, but what is the new Destroyer carrying in those tubes?