Russian Navy: Status & News #2

The 7.62 x 54mm Rimmed round from 1891 had a black powder propellent charge and a 220 grain round nose bullet.

The 7.62 x 54mm Rimmed round produced today uses the same cartridge, but modern smokeless powder and a pointed boat tailed bullet had much greater range and much better accuracy.

The Shells for the S-60 were optimised for anti aircraft use... new ammo developed will have much more potent HE and armour piercing rounds developed for it with new propellent and more aerodynamic shapes.

B-227 repaired and returened to RuAN

Submarine "Vyborg" after restoring tehgotovnosti returned to combat the Baltic Fleet

Any update on launch date fro Sovershenny in the Far East ? She has been building for a long time.

"Hurricane-N", a new generation of ECM-resistant communications developed for the Russian Navy

Not mutch but better than nothing on this day

The new landing boat "Midshipman Lermontov" Russian Navy arrived in Baltiysk

Interview with Dmitry Rogozin

Dmitry Rogozin: We cannot allow cuts in state program for rearmaments

Another day and another ship for the Russian Navy

Signed acceptance certificate on modern landing craft project 21820 "Denis Davydov"

Now this is something very few info has been released but is just as important as war ships

Russian Navy will receive by 2021, 80 support vessels

Viktor wrote:Now this is something very few info has been released but is just as important as war ships

Russian Navy will receive by 2021, 80 support vessels

A lot of them will be modernized ships, but still good news!

China says in talks with Russia over 2015 military drills

by Staff Writers Beijing (AFP) Nov 27, 2014

China's defence ministry said Thursday that it was in talks with Russian counterparts about joint military exercises next year, after Moscow announced drills were planned for the Mediterranean Sea and Pacific Ocean.  Chinese defence ministry spokesman Geng Yansheng told reporters at a monthly briefing that China and Russia were "conducting consultation" over next year's joint military exercises.  But after Russian defence minister Sergei Shoigu visited Beijing last week, Moscow's defence ministry said in a statement: "New joint naval exercises are planned next spring in the waters of the Mediterranean Sea.  Joint exercises are also planned in the Pacific Ocean."  The prospect of joint exercises by the two military powers in the Mediterranean is likely to raise eyebrows in Europe given what is seen there as increased muscle-flexing by Russia after it annexed Crimea and supported rebels in eastern Ukraine.

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/China_says_in_talks_with_Russia_over_2015_military_drills_999.html

The new Bester-1 deep-sea rescue submersible (Project 18271) of Russian Navy

Nice

"Admiral Grigorovich" started mooring trials

Nice

Russian ships and submarines conducted in 2014 almost 400 torpedo firings

Or simply buy their own. I bet they can do it. Unless S.Korea offers Russia to build it themselves.

They already have production experience with the Mistral... these are not something that is super complicated... they can substitute their own technology and systems into the design and build their own without licence. they were only going to have the first ship with NATO sensors and electronics... the other one or three were to have sigma BMS and Russian sensors. All four vessels would have Russian aircraft, vehicles and weapons too.

kvs wrote:One of the "Russia stronk" members of the NATO butthurt forum proposed that Russia buy South Korean Dokdos.





Getting several of these for the price of one non-delivered Mistral seems like a much better idea.

It would be good to buy a license for Dokdos and modify them for Russian needs and build them in Russian shipyards. As Dokdo is smaller than Mistral, they could replace 1 Mistral with 2 Dokdo ships.

Or for all sakes design an own one, that terminates all problems and adds just some costs and time, but seeing that France like all EU countries and South Korea is also a bitch of the US this will be just a deal signed and later not fullfiled just to steal russia time and money which the west wants so badly.

Russia should and must design their own stuff, this is not a question if they could, because they can without problems this is just a question of time and little bit more money.
They can design it to all their needs and making no compromises in design arrangement to meet all requirements and pay their own companies and workers and support their own economy also that also is a question of proudness not to buy other countries stuff when they are having a great MIC themselfs.

Werewolf wrote:Or for all sakes design an own one, that terminates all problems and adds just some costs and time, but seeing that France like all EU countries and South Korea is also a bitch of the US this will be just a deal signed and later not fullfiled just to steal russia time and money which the west wants so badly.

Russia should and must design their own stuff, this is not a question if they could, because they can without problems this is just a question of time and little bit more money.
They can design it to all their needs and making no compromises in design arrangement to meet all requirements and pay their own companies and workers and support their own economy also that also is a question of proudness not to buy other countries stuff when they are having a great MIC themselfs.

Its like Rogozin heard you

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said that Russia will build a fleet of only themselves.
"His fleet will build themselves and only themselves," - he wrote Tuesday in his microblog on Twitter

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Rogozin tweeting populist BS out of his ass, thats new!

Sounds to me like he is saying out loud what most of the military in Russia would probably be thinking... relying on some western suppliers is just too subject to political interference and in future they should just buy a licence and produce it themselves...

the potential for future collaboration is significant... imagine a joint 5th gen light fighter combining Russian and French technology, or cooperation in other areas... the French currently use 155mm laser guided artillery shells designed and made in Russia... perhaps the next generation small arms Russia is working on could be assisted by the French company that makes the FA MAS... adding production to include the French armed forces and those countries with french influence would open new markets for Russian rifles and would of course lead to France finally getting a better small arms family of weapons.

All that future potential lost because of US pressure on Hollande.

They won't rely on foreign equipment from now on. I think in the future at most, they might buy a licence for something to build themselves.

The mistral deal was primaraly a political deal to demonstrate the economic benefits of cooperation with Russia....we're entering a different era now

GarryB wrote:Sounds to me like he is saying out loud what most of the military in Russia would probably be thinking... relying on some western suppliers is just too subject to political interference and in future they should just buy a licence and produce it themselves...

the potential for future collaboration is significant... imagine a joint 5th gen light fighter combining Russian and French technology, or cooperation in other areas... the French currently use 155mm laser guided artillery shells designed and made in Russia... perhaps the next generation small arms Russia is working on could be assisted by the French company that makes the FA MAS... adding production to include the French armed forces and those countries with french influence would open new markets for Russian rifles and would of course lead to France finally getting a better small arms family of weapons.

All that future potential lost because of US pressure on Hollande.

A joint deal between Russia and France for a light 5th gen fighter had no chance in hell of actually coming to fruition, even before the current crisis. When the Pentagon's rancid breath is breathing on the shoulder of the blubbering imbecile Mr.EscarGaul, aka Francois Hollande (a man who's envious of flat worm's for their back bone) who would of been pressured to junk the deal for the more politicized F-35 deal. Instead of pondering on 'what could of been', Mig's 5th gen fighter (which the blueprints have already been developed) could be shopped around the emerging economies. You could bring in Brazil, Indonesia, Egypt, South Africa to pick up 50% of the cost, while Russia picks up the other 50% and you'll see a program that actually has the potential to work (unlike the cooperation you'll have with EU/NATO countries).

I agree it wont happen now... Mistral was a test and France has clearly failed even if it decides to deliver both vessels Russia has had its fingers burned and wont poke them into that fire again.

Personally I think the light 5th gen fighter will probably go ahead even if Russia makes it on its own, simply because a lighter cheaper 5th gen fighter would be very useful and they can't keep making Mig-29s and Su-27s forever.

A new from scratch design has already been developed that is inherently stealthy but should not cost the earth and that alone will make it rather more cost competitive on the international market which at the moment really only has 4+ gen fighters and the ridiculously expensive F-35 available right now.

It is a bit like the C-17 being so expensive that any other transport aircraft design in the 80 ton payload range would sell well to the rest of the world.

If European countries withdraw from the EU then there comes potential for them to not want to be controlled via NATO either and to become rather more independent in thought and action instead of being led by the nose by Washington.

Sadly, I thought France would be a leader in being independent of thought and able to stand up for its own citizens interests... but no.