Romania - US military relations

My first thought was the Romulans are requesting help from the Borg...

This time there will be no "Romania" left just a big-big hole full of garbage. They always help whoever is attacking Russia (ww2) and behave like trash and puppets. At least that's what I see forgive me if you are from Romania but your country is like a prostitute

George1000cy wrote:This time there will be no "Romania" left just a big-big hole full of garbage. They always help whoever is attacking Russia (ww2) and behave like trash and puppets. At least that's what I see forgive me if you are from Romania but your country is like a prostitute

Hello and welcome. There is no reason to be so harsh, Romania is awful but we all exhibit in the same brothel   
and the label writes outside "Pax Americana"   

Why should I be less harsh. We all know what they are why should we bite our tongues and shut up?
A nation that allows itself to be "used" by almost anyone cannot demand respect. Respect is earned

I guess we all know the difference between a man fighting for his motherland/family/beliefs/way of life/freedom etc. and a mercenary
What will they be fighting for? Their master???

George1000cy wrote:I guess we all know the difference between a man fighting for his motherland/family/beliefs/way of life/freedom etc.
What will they be fighting for? Their master???

Yeah and I did say that we are all slaves. Romania is shame but is not unique. Actually is not even the worst in case you know what is going on there.
Just for starters Italy, Greece, Cyprus, Serbia, Bulgaria have MUCH LESS excuses..

Yes, I know I live in Cyprus...
It's not only Romania that's a shame most European countries are like that.

About a year ago when the Syrian crisis got hotter our minister of external affairs made a statement about Assad calling him a killer and supporting the "western" view on the chemical attacks. The biggest local newspaper had this on their site and I was not afraid to comment calling him a liar and a puppet of the zionists. In simple mature Greek language. 'Cause he just repeated the words of his masters.

Excuses is not something we should contest about who has more/less.
When I read: Cyprus/Greece/Serbia etc request nato support 'cause they are "afraid of Russia" my comments will be on the same wavelength.

Comments can't change the world, correct action can

Take care

Hannibal Barca wrote:

George1000cy wrote:I guess we all know the difference between a man fighting for his motherland/family/beliefs/way of life/freedom etc.
What will they be fighting for? Their master???

Yeah and I did say that we are all slaves. Romania is shame but is not unique. Actually is not even the worst in case you know what is going on there.
Just for starters Italy, Greece, Cyprus, Serbia, Bulgaria have MUCH LESS excuses..

Thank you for defending us. It's much appreciated.   I'm gunna buy from now one only Greek oranges and Greek olive oil.  

As for the permanent military base thing, as I said, it was a request made to Joe Biden last week and it represents a combination of politics and irresponsibility. I mean, our politicians know that if they don't show their unconditional love and obedience towards Uncle Sam, they're going to be ousted from power and even jailed. Secondly, there is a competition going on in this area. Poland requested 10.000 US soldiers on its territory, so I heard, the Baltics want permanent NATO bases too and that aroused some kind of apprehension: what if Poland and the Baltics take the whole US Army and no Marine would be left to us?   Let's try to get some US soldiers of our own before they run out. We get them now and we'll kick them out when they become useless, simple as that. Because, if the US have no intention towards us other than using our territory to place their military equipment and milking us dry of natural resources, especially of shale gas and oil, they will be kicked out no matter how. And the best part is that the Americans won't suspect a thing...until one day when they'll be asked to take their rags and go home.

NATO Plans to Deploy Troops in Romania Are Confrontational

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Alexander Lukashevich said NATO plans to deploy troops very close to the Russian border in Romania are confrontational.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — NATO plans to deploy military forces in Romania are inadequate and confrontational, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Alexander Lukashevich said Wednesday.

Polish soldiers watch as US troops from the 5th Battalion of the 7th Air Defense Regiment emplace a launching station of the Patriot air and missile defence system at a test range in Sochaczew, Poland.

"In fact, it is a sequential transformation of the country into another supportive foothold for the United States and NATO close to the Russian border. We have repeatedly commented on such steps by NATO member states, noting their confrontational manner and stressing their inadequacy and redundancy, both militarily and financially," Lukashevich said.

According to Lukashevich, the Romanian government is sacrificing the safety of the region by agreeing to deploy the bloc's military forces.

"One is tempted to conclude that the current Romanian authorities, in order to raise their 'profile' in the eyes of the overseas strategists… are willing to sacrifice maintenance of stability in the Black Sea region for tactical reasons," Lukashevich said.

Lukashevich added that Russia clearly poses no threat to Romania or any other country, thus statements on the "defensive character" of NATO activities in light of false accusations of Moscow aggression make no sense at all.

Last week, the United States deployed 12 A-10 Warthog planes and 200 airmen and support equipment to Romania to ensure a posture of security to allies in the region.

In early February, NATO defense ministers agreed to set up a new high-readiness group dubbed Spearhead Force as part of the NATO Response Force. The ministers also decided to establish six command and control units in Romania, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland.

According to the US Missile Defense Agency, the United States will install an Aegis Ashore Ballistic Missile Defense complex in Romania in 2015 and a similar system in Poland by 2018.

Russia has repeatedly expressed concern over NATO's increased military presence in Eastern Europe.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150408/1020614457.html#ixzz3WkrdHEd1

NATO to Deploy US Missile Interceptors at Base in Romania by Year-End

Romanian Defense Minister Mircea Dusa said that elements of NATO missile shield in Europe will be deployed at a military base in Deveselu, Romania by the end of 2015.

CHISINAU (Sputnik) — Elements of NATO missile shield in Europe will be deployed at a military base in Deveselu, Romania by the end of 2015, Romanian Defense Minister Mircea Dusa said Tuesday.

The announcement follows his meeting with US Navy Admiral Mark Ferguson, Commander of the Allied Joint Force Command (JFC) in Naples, Italy, held in Romania earlier in the day.

“We both emphasized the need for the solidarity of the Alliance in terms of security in the region. I pointed out that Romania is an oasis of stability,” Dusa was quoted as saying by Romanian media.

He also specified that NATO’s missile-intercepting facility in Deveselu will carry out only defense functions.

In late October, 2013, Romania and the United States signed a bilateral agreement to deploy SM-3 missile interceptors at the Deveselu Air Base in southern Romania.

The move is viewed in Russia as a threat to its national security and nuclear deterrence capabilities, while the United States and NATO claim their ballistic missile defense system is aimed at intercepting a small number of missiles launched from countries like Iran and is not directed against Moscow.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150505/1021750464.html#ixzz3ZLWmXmFZ

max steel wrote:  RUSSIA IS EURASIAN

Which would make them both European and Asian....

Obviously Garry . Russia is Eurasian not European .

I have not seen such a beautiful country like Russia if you go in west you'll meet europe if you go in south you'll see central asia if you go in btwn w-s you find m.east if you go in east you will find s.e asia . Its a fucking huge country .

Obviously Garry . Russia is Eurasian not European .

No.

If Eurasian means European and Asian then Russia IS European AND Asian... that would be what Eurasian means.

It becomes a mixed ethnicity situation... like a child to a white person and a Japanese person rejected by both cultures as being too much of the other ethnicity... of course the enormous flaw in my analogy is that Russia is a multi ethnic society that spans two continents... of course it can be European AND Asian all at the same time... the way individual people clearly can't... but should be able to.

USN has begun testing of the first object of missile defense in Romania

The magazine "Jane's International Defence Review" article Geoff Fein "Land ahoy: USN to assume operation of Romanian Aegis Ashore" informs that in May 2015 the US Missile Defense Agency (US Missile Defence Agency - MDA) start a three-month series of commissioning tests of the first object missile Defense (NMD), built in Eastern Europe - the object Naval Support Facility (NSF) Aegis Ashore at the former Romanian air Force base Deveselu in southern Romania, which must be equipped with interceptor missiles family Standard SM-3.

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1333441.html

Fire some Iskander over romania from Transitarnia . lets test sm-3 capabilities .

SM-3 BLOCK 2 CAN SHOOT DOWN IRBM'S ALSO APART FROM SRBM'S AND MRBM'S. TOCHKA CAN BE INTERCEPTED BY IT BUT NOT IKSANDERS SINCE THEY MANEUVER WITH QUASI-BALLISTIC PATH.

“Star Wars”: US/NATO missile shield inaugurated in Romania

http://neurope.eu/article/star-wars-usnato-missile-shield-inaugurated-in-romania/

Can Russia send a cruise missile to see if this shitt works ? but the target to be only the romanian parliament.

"According to the local media Romania-Insider, Romania will buy 12 more F-16 fighter airplanes, the Ministry of Defense being in charge of preparing the acquisition procedures this year, according to the country's Defense Minister Mihnea Motoc. The auction will be organized in 2017 and the airplanes, which might be second-hand, will be purchased from other NATO member states.

“So far, we have requested information from all the allied countries which operate such devices, including the US and five European allies,” the Minister said for local Europa FM. The first F-16 airplanes Romania bought from Portugal are to arrive in the country in September. The planes’ cost amounted to around EUR 630 million, including their upgrade by American company Lockheed Martin and the pilots’ training.

Romania signed a Letter of Offer and Acceptance with the U.S. Government in December 2013 which provides programmatic support to a U.S.-approved third party transfer of F-16 aircraft from Portugal to Romania. That agreement delivers 12 F-16 block 20 Mid-Life Upgrade (MLU) aircraft to Romania beginning in 2016. Romania purchased the 12 F-16AM/BM fighters to replace part of its fleet of Russian built MiG-21 Lancer fighter aircraft and thus bring its air force up to NATO standards."

Source: http://www.airrecognition.com/index.php/archive-world-worldwide-news-air-force-aviation-aerospace-air-military-defence-industry/global-defense-security-news/global-news-2016/february/2437-romania-plans-to-purchase-12-more-f-16-fighter-jets-in-2017.html

In Romania, US Wraps Construction of Anti-Missile Battery

The U.S. has all of the pieces in place at its missile-defense complex in southern Romania, despite Moscow’s objections and the highest NATO-Russia tensions since the Cold War.

Construction of the anti-missile battery and radar — which Washington says are there to shoot down weapons fired toward Europe from Iran, not Russia — is in the final stages at the Deveselu military base in southern Romania, about 90 miles west of Bucharest, Pentagon officials say.

In coming days, the Pentagon will make a “technical capability declaration” — that is, it will certify as ready the complex’s various components: a powerful radar, missile interceptors, and communications equipment.

The site will be declared operational — able to down a missile — in 2016, after the successful completion of a training exercise, a Pentagon official said.





Last Wednesday, military testers shot down a target over the Pacific Ocean using a land-based Standard Missile-3 interceptor launched from Kauai, Hawaii. This successful test of the SM-3 Block 1B clears the way for its use in Romania, along with its Aegis guidance radar — the first operational ground-based version of two systems originally designed for shipboard use.

“The test’s success keeps the Aegis Ashore program and the SM-3 Block 1B on track for deployment in Romania by the end of this year,” said a Thursday statement from Raytheon, which builds the interceptor.

When fully active, the Deveselu facility will be operated by more than 200 U.S. sailors and civilians plus Romanian military personnel.

Russia has opposed the European missile shield since its inception last decade. In 2009, President Obama announced the Phased Adaptive Approach, a tiered deployment of missile defenses across Europe. The first phase included the deployment radars and interceptors on Navy ships. The Romanian base is the second phase and the third is the deployment of more interceptors to Poland.

In April, Gen. Valery Gerasimov, Russia’s top general said Moscow would target NATO’s new missile interceptor bases in Romania and Poland.

“Non-nuclear powers where missile-defense installations are being installed have become the objects of priority response,” Gerasimov said, according to the Wall Street Journal.

In recent months, NATO has held some of its largest military drills since the Cold War. American forces have been deploying more frequently to Eastern Europe to train with members of the alliance near Russia.

U.S. officials broke ground at the Romanian missile interceptor complex in October 2013. Google Earth images from just a few years ago show the tiny base’s 8,000-foot runway filled with cracks, with dozens of Soviet-era fighter jets sitting idly on taxiways for what appears to be years. More recent satellite images show widespread construction throughout the complex.

Now, construction at Deveselu is finishing up, said Lt. Cmdr. Robert Johnson, a spokesman for U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa in Naples, Italy, the organization that oversees sailors there. U.S. officials are expecting to formally declare the site operational later this month.

Deveselu is the first new Navy installation in 20 years, after Naval Station Everett in Washington state, Johnson said.

Soon will start the work to construct the missile shield in Poland too.

DerWolf wrote:Soon will start the work to construct the missile shield in Poland too.

will get over by 2018.