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    Post  Russian Patriot Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:51 am

    Russia tests Indian fighter jets on board its aircraft carrier

    RIA Novosti

    02:06 30/09/2009 MOSCOW, September 30 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's MiG aircraft maker said on Tuesday it has successfully tested on board the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier four MiG-29 carrier-based fighter jets due to be delivered to India.

    Russia and India signed a contract on January 20, 2004, stipulating the supply of 12 single-seat MiG-29Ks and four two-seat MiG-29KUBs to India as part of a $1.5 billion deal to deliver the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier, currently being retrofitted in Russia for the Indian navy.

    "During the tests on September 28-29, the MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB fighters conducted several take offs and landings on the deck of the [Admiral Kuznetsov] aircraft carrier in the Barents Sea," the company said in a statement.

    Admiral Kuznetsov is the only aircraft carrier in the Russian Navy.

    The two MiG-29Ks and two MiG-29KUBs were officially transferred to India earlier this year. They were inspected by Indian technical experts and used in a five-month flight training course for the Indian pilots.

    The aircrafts are expected to be delivered to India in mid-October.

    Meanwhile, Russia and India are still negotiating a new deal on the completion of the Admiral Gorshkov overhaul.

    Russia has pledged to finish the Admiral Gorshkov's overhaul as soon as possible and deliver it to India in 2012 if the additional $1.2 bln funding is provided by New Delhi.

    After modernization, the carrier will join the Indian Navy as INS Vikramaditya, and is expected to be seaworthy for 30 years.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2009/09/mil-090930-rianovosti02.htm
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    Post  Russian Patriot Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:31 pm

    Russia's MIG company confirms delivery of naval fighters to India
    RIA Novosti

    08/12/200917:18

    MOSCOW, December 8 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's MiG aircraft maker said on Tuesday it has delivered the first four MiG-29 Fulcrum-D carrier-based fighter jets to India.

    Russia and India signed a contract on January 20, 2004, stipulating the supply of 12 single-seat MiG-29Ks and four two-seat MiG-29KUBs to India as part of a $1.5 billion deal to deliver the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier, currently being retrofitted in Russia for the Indian navy.

    Indian media earlier reported that two MiG-29K and two MiG-29KUB fighters arrived from Russia in a knocked down condition on December 4.

    Deliveries of the remaining aircraft will be carried out in line with a schedule agreed by MiG and the Indian Navy.

    The contract for the jets also stipulates the procurement of hardware for pilot training and aircraft maintenance, including flight simulators and interactive ground and sea-based training systems.

    India and Russia are also reportedly close to reaching an agreement to break the deadlock on additional financing for the retrofit of the Admiral Gorshkov, which caused "a distinct chill in expansive Indo-Russian defense ties."

    "India is likely to shell out around $2.5 billion and get the carrier by early 2013,'' Times of India quoted a source in the Indian military as saying.

    The Indian Navy has named its MiG-29K squadron the "Black Panthers." The fighters will be based at an airfield in the state of Goa on India's west coast until the Admiral Gorshkov joins the Navy under the name of INS Vikramaditya.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/india/2009/india-091208-rianovosti01.htm
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    Post  milky_candy_sugar Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:36 pm

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    Post  Russian Patriot Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:00 pm

    MiG-29 fighter planes join Indian Navy

    IRNA - Islamic Republic News Agency

    New Delhi, Feb 19, IRNA -- India Friday inducted MiG-29 fighter aircraft into the Navy.

    The sophisticated Russian-made MiG-29K maritime fighter aircraft, which will be based on under-construction aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov, were formally put into the Navy service by Defence Minister A K Antony.

    Four MiG 29Ks of the 'Black Panthers' squadron were inducted at a ceremony at INS Hansa, Vasco da Gama, Goa, that was also attended by Navy chief Admiral Nirmal Verma.

    India had placed orders for 16 MiG-29K in 2004 along with Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier from Russia, four of which landed in India on December 4 last year.

    "After induction, the fighter jets would be operated for around two years from the under-development shore-based testing facility (SBTF) at INS Hansa till the actual delivery of Gorshkov, rechristened as INS Vikramaditya, slated for 2012," a senior naval officer said.

    For operating the fleet of MiG 29Ks, India had sent 10 pilots for training to Russia and also to the US for deck landing training and on board a French aircraft carrier for operations training, he said.

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    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/india/2010/india-100219-irna02.htm
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    Post  Russian Patriot Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:01 pm

    Russian MiG-29K jets officially enter service with Indian Navy

    RIA Novosti

    19/02/201017:35

    HANSA (India), February 19 (RIA Novosti) - The Indian Navy on Friday formally took delivery of Russian-made MiG-29K fighters, which will eventually be deployed on an aircraft carrier being refitted in Russia.

    Defense Minister A K Antony said the entry into service of the MiG-29K carrier fighters marked a "milestone" for the Indian Navy.

    "The induction of MiG-29K fighters into the naval inventory fulfills a long standing requirement of our Navy," Antony said.

    The ceremony, held at the Hansa airbase, was attended by top Indian military officials, including Antony and Navy Chief of Staff Adm. Nirmal Verma, and a Russian delegation led by Industry and Trade Minister Viktor Khristenko.

    Russia and India signed a contract in 2004 for the delivery of 12 single-seat MiG-29K and four two-seat MiG-29KUB fighters to be deployed on the Admiral Gorshkov, currently being retrofitted in Russia for the Indian Navy.

    The Indian Navy is planning to use a total of 45 MiG-29Ks, including the 16 stipulated under the 2004 contract with Russia.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/india/2010/india-100219-rianovosti01.htm
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    Post  rkt86 Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:53 am

    Russian Patriot wrote:Russia's MIG company confirms delivery of naval fighters to India
    RIA Novosti

    08/12/200917:18

    MOSCOW, December 8 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's MiG aircraft maker said on Tuesday it has delivered the first four MiG-29 Fulcrum-D carrier-based fighter jets to India.

    Russia and India signed a contract on January 20, 2004, stipulating the supply of 12 single-seat MiG-29Ks and four two-seat MiG-29KUBs to India as part of a $1.5 billion deal to deliver the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier, currently being retrofitted in Russia for the Indian navy.

    Indian media earlier reported that two MiG-29K and two MiG-29KUB fighters arrived from Russia in a knocked down condition on December 4.

    Deliveries of the remaining aircraft will be carried out in line with a schedule agreed by MiG and the Indian Navy.

    The contract for the jets also stipulates the procurement of hardware for pilot training and aircraft maintenance, including flight simulators and interactive ground and sea-based training systems.

    India and Russia are also reportedly close to reaching an agreement to break the deadlock on additional financing for the retrofit of the Admiral Gorshkov, which caused "a distinct chill in expansive Indo-Russian defense ties."

    "India is likely to shell out around $2.5 billion and get the carrier by early 2013,'' Times of India quoted a source in the Indian military as saying.

    The Indian Navy has named its MiG-29K squadron the "Black Panthers." The fighters will be based at an airfield in the state of Goa on India's west coast until the Admiral Gorshkov joins the Navy under the name of INS Vikramaditya.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/india/2009/india-091208-rianovosti01.htm

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    Post  Russian Patriot Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:56 pm

    India to induct 29 Mig-29K in Navy within two years: Navy Chief

    IRNA - Islamic Republic News Agency

    New Delhi, Oct 1, IRNA -- Chief of Naval Staff, Admiral Nirmal Verma Saturday said that more Mig-29K class air fighter air-craft and helicopters would be inducted into the Indian Navy in the next two years.

    Talking to media after commissioning of INS Shakti, a fleet tanker, at the Naval Dockyard in Visakhapatnam in Andhra Pradesh state today, he said 29 MIG-29K aircraft and sixteen helicopters would be acquired within two years, pti reported. Earlier, 16 aircraft of this class, (12 fighter and 4 trainee aircraft) had been acquired.

    The Navy Chief also said that aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya would be delivered to the Indian Navy as per the schedule, and Italy was extending cooperation for another aircraft carrier, being built by the Cochin shipyard.

    To a question, he said the naval surveillance along the coast had been strengthened in association with the Coast Guard and Marine Police. Fishermen too were being roped in, he said.

    Navy and Coast Guard were creating awareness among the fishermen community for this purpose, he said.

    Regarding rehabilitation package for those who had lost lands for the alternative naval base at Rambilli Mandal in the district, Verma said the Centre and the Navy had accepted the rehabilitation package submitted by the district administration and the state government, and Centre had released the funds.

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    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/india/2011/india-111001-irna02.htm
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    Post  Austin Sun May 12, 2013 12:29 pm

    Not Russian but Mig-29K fighter commisioned into Indian Navy

    https://youtu.be/8hayeh3wFFw
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    Post  TR1 Sun May 12, 2013 9:59 pm

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/519049.html

    Some more photos of Indian MiG-29Ks.

    Looking good!
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    Post  Flyingdutchman Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:04 pm

    Does anyone have information about the carrier strike groups of INS Vikramaditya (and in the future Vikrant) and that of the liaoning?
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    Post  runaway Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:42 pm

    16 MiG29K and up to 10 helicopters is standard airwing on the Vikramaditya.

    Liaoning can take up to 30 fixed wing aircraft and 24 helicopters. Altough not 30 J-15 they are to big, maybe as the K around 14.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:33 am

    About the Vikramaditya a while ago the standard airwing was 16 mig-29k fighters and a bunch of helicopters then it changed in 24 mig-29k and now it is 30 mig-29k now can someone tell me what the standard airwing is when patrolling in the indian ocean region?
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    Post  GarryB Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:43 am

    AFAIK the original carrier had a standard load of something like 16 Yaks but could also carry something like 20 Helix sized Helicopters along with those Yaks.

    What I suspect has happened is that because the Migs are more potent than the Helicopters that in addition to changing the internal design to allow more fixed wing aircraft to be carried... with the removal of all the front deck weapons and under deck ammo and equipment that they likely have more room for aircraft and have also likely changed the ratio of aircraft to more fixed wing aircraft to improve performance.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:07 pm

    Then something else what short range and long range air to air missiles is the indian navy using on her mig-29k's?
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    Post  GarryB Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:03 am

    The Indian Navy will likely keep the R-73 and R-77 combination, I rather doubt they would pay for combat trials and integration for French missiles to also be carried like the Indian Air Force would.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:00 am

    The hangar has place for 12 mig-29k's and 6 helo's that would mean that on the flight deck there need to be place for 12 mig-29k's and 6 helo's then you would have a total 24 mig-29k's, 4 ka-31 and 8 ka-27.
    But 12 mig's and 6 helo's is alot to park on the flight deck!
    If you want the landing area to be free you can park 11 mig's at the front and back of the bridge.
    So where do you leave all the other aircraft??

    And for garry: the hangar is as small as it was they didnt made it larger.


    http://www.jeffhead.com/worldwideaircraftcarriers/vikram-16.jpg

    And can someone tell me what weapon load this is??

    http://www.migavia.ru/im/photo/17_MiG-29KUB_main.jpg

    http://defencelover.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/mig-29-at-ins-vikramaditya1.jpg


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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:28 am

    Flyingdutchman wrote:
    And can someone tell me what weapon load this is??

    http://www.migavia.ru/im/photo/17_MiG-29KUB_main.jpg

    http://defencelover.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/mig-29-at-ins-vikramaditya1.jpg

    That would be the Х-35Э (3М24Э) antiship missile; the English tranliteration of this missile's designation is Kh-35Eh (3M24Eh).


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    Post  Flyingdutchman Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:20 am

    Can a mig-29k take-off from the vikramaditya with 2 r-73 missiles, 2 r-77 missiles and 2 kh-35 anti ship missles?
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    Post  TR1 Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:30 am

    Flyingdutchman wrote:Can a mig-29k take-off from the vikramaditya with 2 r-73 missiles, 2 r-77 missiles and 2 kh-35 anti ship missles?

    Easily.

    For example:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAydUANL1ow

    Takes off with centerline + wing fuel tanks, 2 Kh-35, 2 R-73.

    Nice pic:
    http://www.migavia.ru/im/photo/17_MiG-29KUB_main.jpg

    I imagine it you could add the R-77s without sacrificing anything else from that config.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:34 am

    Can a mig-29k take-off from the vikramaditya with 2 r-73 missiles, 2 r-77 missiles and 2 kh-35 anti ship missles?

    No... don't be silly... it can only take off with a sling shot and a bag of maybe 20 small stones... once they are exhausted in combat the pilot has to rely on using foul language.

    The Mig-29K can take off with 2 x R-73, 2 x R-77, and 4 Kh-35, plus a centreline fuel tank.... which is a very modest loadout BTW.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:03 pm

    Is the kh-35 missile or is it the only anti-ship missile being used by the India navy?

    Because the range of the missile is 130km and the chinese hqq-9 surface to air missile has a range of 200km and its used by the most destroyers of china so this means that the mig-29k has to come widely in range of chinese ships before it is able to fire the anti-ship missile.
    So is there another anti-ship missile used by the indian navy with more range?

    Thanks,
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    Post  collegeboy16 Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:53 pm

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    Post  TR1 Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:54 pm

    Flyingdutchman wrote:Is the kh-35 missile or is it the only anti-ship missile being used by the India navy?

    Because the range of the missile is 130km and the chinese hqq-9 surface to air missile has a range of 200km and its used by the most destroyers of china so this means that the mig-29k has to come widely in range of chinese ships before it is able to fire the anti-ship missile.
    So is there another anti-ship missile used by the indian navy with more range?

    Thanks,

    Kh-35 has range up to 260km range.

    http://eng.ktrv.ru/production_eng/323/512/563/

    Presumably their MiG-29s would be able to fire Kh-31 as well, though I am not sure of the Navy uses it.
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    Post  Flyboy77 Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:27 am

    Indian Navy MiG-29Ks Brahmos_and_Brahmos-M_size_comparison

    The new Brahmos-M is also being designed to be carried by the MiG-29K.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:45 am

    I believe at one stage they were looking at the Klub missile that used the supersonic terminal phase with a rocket motor.

    The UKSK launcher bins used to launch Brahmos on Subs and Ships is also compatible with the Kalibr/Klub system.

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