Syrian War: News #14

@eehnie

First eehnie , I don't care how old you are . Einstein formulated his theory before age of twenty five . The only thing that matter here , is what is said . No rank or religion or nationality or ...

I was thinking about Turkey advance . What is reasonable and what is not ? If Turks make the mistake of occupying the area now known as Rojava . Then this at once unites the kurds or 90 percent of the lands they live in . You can call it independence by stealth !

No , the way to go is first an encirclement by joint Turkey Syria and Iraq / Iran national forces . So they can not make any more advances . Second is stationing of national troops along international borders . This may need joint military cooperation . And third it is to cut the Rojava territory along major roads to allow easy transport of military and civilian trade for all nations in region .

eehnie wrote:

AbdulhamidtheSecond wrote:

eehnie wrote:

AbdulhamidtheSecond wrote:

eehnie wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Movements in the North?

ali ornek‏ @ornekali 9h9 hours ago
Replying to @ornekali

#PYD leader Saleh Muslim ask Russian help to protect #Afrin: We are ready to cooperate with Russia in Afrin.

Followed by

WorldOnAlert‏ @worldonalert 29m29 minutes ago
Replying to @worldonalert

#Aleppo: #Russia|n soldiers are leaving the #Afrin Canton.

Ali Özkök‏ @A_Ozkok 17m17 minutes ago

A lot of reports that Russian forces leave YPG-held Efrin in Syria. Sources told that they already left after US downing of Su22. #Syria

Screw that, no halfassing.

Once ENTIRE so called "rojava" is ready to cooperate (as in doing every single thing they are told with smile on their faces) then they can talk. Until then enjoy some Turkish coffee.

Let's see how much their cousins truly care about them.

This has been also ordered by the US? lol the lies about the Kurds always come out.

Nope, it is because there is no one except Russia/regime to protect them in Afrin. In other areas under their control,they cant get help from regime or Russia therefore they seek refuge from US.

They just care themselves that is it.

I dont understand the efforts made to show Kurds as totally loyal to Syrian integrity. They want partition of Syria and it is not a matter of discussion.

If a person sees no problem in partition of Syria then he could defend his filthy ideas.... in the name of extremely innocent Kurds

As example you can begin first. Because in this extremely innocent map I see a Turkish wish of partition of Syria.



https://www.copticsolidarity.org/2016/10/26/turkeys-new-maps-are-reclaiming-the-ottoman-empire/

You have proven that you are under 20.

I can find hundreds of agressive expansionist map of every single country on the net made by somebody within the nation, so does that mean it is a formal state policy.

Your ideas regarding Kurds have been refuted eehnie, and dont try to counter by these childish and desperate attempts...

What is not as common is to find one country (Turkey) formally invading part of other country (Syria) without permission, and even against the wish formally expressed of the invaded country (Syria). Are not formal enough the calls of Syria for Turkey to go out of its territory and to stop supporting and arming the opposition?

In this case of formal invasion, maps of annexation of part of the territory of another country become real and formal. As formal as in the case of Israel with the Golan.

You will not have as easy to dress what your country is doing (not thinking or planning to do).

You are right, Turks are invaders in Syria, however, if there was no Turkish invasion, now Kurds were able to form their "Rojava" state in one piece, and hence lots of trouble for SAA more than TSK.

The reason that Turkey does not even hesitate to talk with Syrian government is that once they wanted to remove it,and have a one piece Syria under new government, but they failed and even the former president from the times of 2011 said Turkey should leave total war policy against Assads government and actually it did, Astana was a clear message of change.

And as being recent, Turkey offered joint military presence with Russia in Idlib, would Kurds do the same in their Rojava? (not Afrin)

JohninMK wrote:..............
Agree that Turkey did everyone, apart from the Kurds, a favour by splitting their area, even tho' the western Kurds are different to the eastern ones. If the Turks attack Afrin it will be interesting to see just how much brotherly love there is.

Yup

If Turks go into Afrin then eastern variety of Kurds will find themselves with a choice. Either help THEM and risk what WE have and what more WE could get or ignore THEM and keep what WE have by sacrificing THEM in order to save OURSELVES.

Human nature is amazing thing but also very static and unchanging one

AbdulhamidtheSecond wrote:

eehnie wrote:

AbdulhamidtheSecond wrote:

eehnie wrote:

AbdulhamidtheSecond wrote:

eehnie wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Movements in the North?

ali ornek‏ @ornekali 9h9 hours ago
Replying to @ornekali

#PYD leader Saleh Muslim ask Russian help to protect #Afrin: We are ready to cooperate with Russia in Afrin.

Followed by

WorldOnAlert‏ @worldonalert 29m29 minutes ago
Replying to @worldonalert

#Aleppo: #Russia|n soldiers are leaving the #Afrin Canton.

Ali Özkök‏ @A_Ozkok 17m17 minutes ago

A lot of reports that Russian forces leave YPG-held Efrin in Syria. Sources told that they already left after US downing of Su22. #Syria

Screw that, no halfassing.

Once ENTIRE so called "rojava" is ready to cooperate (as in doing every single thing they are told with smile on their faces) then they can talk. Until then enjoy some Turkish coffee.

Let's see how much their cousins truly care about them.

This has been also ordered by the US? lol the lies about the Kurds always come out.

Nope, it is because there is no one except Russia/regime to protect them in Afrin. In other areas under their control,they cant get help from regime or Russia therefore they seek refuge from US.

They just care themselves that is it.

I dont understand the efforts made to show Kurds as totally loyal to Syrian integrity. They want partition of Syria and it is not a matter of discussion.

If a person sees no problem in partition of Syria then he could defend his filthy ideas.... in the name of extremely innocent Kurds

As example you can begin first. Because in this extremely innocent map I see a Turkish wish of partition of Syria.



https://www.copticsolidarity.org/2016/10/26/turkeys-new-maps-are-reclaiming-the-ottoman-empire/

You have proven that you are under 20.

I can find hundreds of agressive expansionist map of every single country on the net made by somebody within the nation, so does that mean it is a formal state policy.

Your ideas regarding Kurds have been refuted eehnie, and dont try to counter by these childish and desperate attempts...

What is not as common is to find one country (Turkey) formally invading part of other country (Syria) without permission, and even against the wish formally expressed of the invaded country (Syria). Are not formal enough the calls of Syria for Turkey to go out of its territory and to stop supporting and arming the opposition?

In this case of formal invasion, maps of annexation of part of the territory of another country become real and formal. As formal as in the case of Israel with the Golan.

You will not have as easy to dress what your country is doing (not thinking or planning to do).

You are right, Turks are invaders in Syria, however, if there was no Turkish invasion, now Kurds were able to form their "Rojava" state in one piece, and hence lots of trouble for SAA more than TSK.

The reason that Turkey does not even hesitate to talk with Syrian government is that once they wanted to remove it,and have a one piece Syria under new government, but they failed and even the former president from the times of 2011 said Turkey should leave total war policy against Assads government and actually it did, Astana was a clear message of change.

And as being recent, Turkey offered joint military presence with Russia in Idlib, would Kurds do the same in their Rojava? (not Afrin)

The military force of the Kurds is limited. If the Kurds would have advanced by the territory invaded by Turkey, they would have not advanced toward Raqqa. Surely they would not have reached Raqqa and not even Tabqa, and Syria would have reached Al Bab before. In fact the situation would be better for Syria than with the Turks.

Turkey did nothing in the interest of Syria, they invaded Syria following only the own interest, and like Israel in the Golan and the US in the South, they plan to stay with the use of the force. And Syria will need important external help to fire all them out.

The military force of the Kurds is limited? Do you know how many armored vehicles did they receive from USA? or Do you know how many foreign fighters did they receive from foreign countries? Their human power may be limited but they are always receive new weopans and equipment from USA. They are directly supported by USAF. Moreover, YPG have already started to move to Raqqa during the Operation Euphrates Shield.

"Syrian War Report – June 29, 2017: Desert Hawks Brigade Deploys Large Reinforcements For Battle Against ISIS."




"Syrian Army Advances East Of Khanasir."

https://southfront.org/syrian-army-advances-east-khanasir/

Airman wrote:The military force of the Kurds is limited? Do you know how many armored vehicles did they receive from USA? or Do you know how many foreign fighters did they receive from foreign countries? Their human power may be limited but they are always receive new weopans and equipment from USA. They are directly supported by USAF. Moreover, YPG have already started to move to Raqqa during the Operation Euphrates Shield.

Are you refering to this?

http://lostarmour.info/syria/item.php?id=14650
http://lostarmour.info/syria/item.php?id=13606

http://www.armyrecognition.com/united_arab_emirates_wheeled_armoured_vehicles_uk/guardian_iag_4x4_apc_armoured_personnel_carrier_technical_data_sheet_specification_description_intelligence_pictures_video.html

Check the pictures of the destroyed units, and say then if this is what you fear as intensely. 6600 to 8000 Kg,... all said...

Let me know if this is more powerful than the US nuclear weapons targeting Russia that Turkey has in its territory.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/880468590637592577?p=v

NEW MAP: Important victory for #SAA + #Hezbollah vs. #ISIS: #Humaymah liberated by Syrian Gov. forces. T2 Pumping Station next.

Intense footage of the SAA near Qaboun(Damascus country side.)





"Government Troops Advancing In Ayn Tarma Area In Eastern Damascus."

https://southfront.org/government-troops-advancing-in-ayn-tarma-area-in-eastern-damascus/


"A photo from Jobar district shows what appears to be equipment and weapons of the Russian Special Operations Forces. According to some sources, the Russian Special Forces including snipers are believed to be supporting the SAA in this operation. This theory is supported by the participation of Russian Air Force warplanes. It is logical to have Russian special forces on the ground to guide warplanes."

Corbett Report discussing the possible upcoming false flag chemical weapon attack that may happen next week.

Military Source to me SAA Tiger forces Meet Syrian army in Ithria in this moments

https://mobile.twitter.com/MIG29_/status/880734569368100864




Syrian Arab Army troops met on Raqqa/Ithriya-Road and created a ISIS pocket

https://mobile.twitter.com/CivilWarMap/status/880738161663541248

The entire pocket is red.

Islamic State is out of the province of Aleppo.

https://mideast.liveuamap.com/

Not all of it yet but for all intents and purposes this chapter is completed


Resafa is about to get a massive logistics boost with travel time shortened this much. On to DeZ soon hopefully and from several directions maybe...

The maps agree not totally, in the source I linked, which is so pro-US the map shows the IS out and it is said explicitly. Despite it, not the most important thing.

Also some source says Russia deployed 160 soldiers more to the Kurd area of the North West.

As expected all the intoxication failed.

PapaDragon wrote:
Not all of it yet but for all intents and purposes this chapter is completed


Resafa is about to get a massive logistics boost with travel time shortened this much. On to DeZ soon hopefully and from several directions maybe...

There is still some ISIS guys held up there but they will be dealt with in a couple of days, took the SAA a good few days to tale that area from when I announced they will launch the operation.

Once the Hama pocket is closed up they will be in a good position to advance, ISIs will fight tooth and nail to keep that pocket open.

JohninMK wrote:Interesting if true, not only are the Kurds south of the Euphrates but they might be handing over a SyAF base to the US.

Eyewitnesses said that American soldiers are carrying out renovations of the military air base near the city of Tabqa in northern Syria, adding that U.S. army helicopters are landing there.

The Russian Izvestia newspaper quoting a source in the Syrian Democratic Forces, an alliance including mostly Kurdish fighters, said that the Tabqa air base in the province of Raqqa will be put at the disposal of the United States.

The Islamic State (ISIS) controlled the Tabqa base until the SDF managed to expel the group’s fighters from it at the end of March 2017.

Regarding the SDF’s intention to deliver this base to the United States, the Izvestia newspaper wrote that Washington was preparing the ground to invade Syria, in reference to claims of U.S. renovations there.

The newspaper quoted Alexey Chepa, deputy chair of the State Duma's Foreign Affairs Committee, as saying: “What is happening in the region indicates that American intelligence has not given up the idea of overthrowing the legitimate rulers in Damascus.”

http://syrianobserver.com/EN/News/32957

I can only wish/hope that Kurds are back stabbed again.

Indicators are positive so far...

#ISIS official, Abu Qutaiba, cried when mentioning Baghdadi's name during TalAfar Friday prayer indicating his death

https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/880877220188880897

Two Syrian shells hit in Turkey in the border near the coast.

https://twitter.com/Acemal71/status/880884767062982656

It will be tough going to clear ISIS out of the mountains;

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pictures-isis-ready-fight-last-man-besieged-aleppo-pocket-map-update/

"President Bashar al-Assad visited the families of wounded soldiers in Hama province."





Faces of the SAA.

Since start of 2017



Only south part of wrong, SAA never controlled that area, only now