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    Post  kvs Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:13 am

    The empty shelves metric can be misleading. If people panic horde no normal supply can fill the shops. This actually applied
    to the USSR where people were harassed with delivery shortfalls and started hording. This created the empty shelves that
    every genius in the west assumed proved how bad it was in USSR. It was nothing like that before the 1980s and mostly a
    product of Gorbie's shenanigans that helped kill the USSR.

    Venezuela is experiencing similar disruption as the late stage USSR because the public is being panicked into hording. That
    does not mean that there were was no mismanagement but the foreign actors facilitating the criminal underground activity
    cannot be dismissed as symptomatic, but is a causal.

    But the Democrap one-party state is going to start producing real shortages in the USA. Social engineers of the zealot kind
    do not bother with trifles such as actually doing the job right or accepting reality.


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    Post  GarryB Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:15 am

    It said on the news over 300 people had accidentally killed themselves by running their car engines inside their garages to try to keep warm... carbon monoxide killing the people in the cars and in the houses the garages are attached to...
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    Post  kvs Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:48 pm

    GarryB wrote:It said on the news over 300 people had accidentally killed themselves by running their car engines inside their garages to try to keep warm... carbon monoxide killing the people in the cars and in the houses the garages are attached to...

    That is just whack. TV and movies should have made it clear by now never to run cars inside garages. Pulling out into the driveway would
    give you the same warmth since you are inside the car. I hope these people did not actually think that they would warm their houses if
    they ran their cars inside the garage.

    Perhaps this is a case of people assuming that if the garage door is open then everything is OK. That is dangerous since the garage is
    is still a gas trap since the mixing with outside air is not instantaneous and the CO can build up to concentrations high enough to kill
    especially sitting inside the car. CO binds to hemoglobin 200 times stronger than oxygen. So even small concentrations in the air
    (not trace amounts of course) can kill.
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    Post  Daniel_Admassu Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:44 pm

    An interesting article on Strategic Culture about the current path of education in the United States.

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/02/18/the-decline-of-the-west-american-education-surrenders-to-equity/

    It basically says that the US public education sector wants to abolish the academic merits based assessment and replace it with an 'equity' based system, whatever that really means.

    Science education requires hard work and innovations require a competitive spirit as it is. I am not sure what level of result a quota education is expected to achieve.

    I am a black fellow in Africa and believe historical events have placed non-white minorities in some disadvantage in both education and career. But that is a challenge to overcome, not a pretext to avoid the real issue. I don't believe dumbing down everyone just for the sake of equality is the solution.

    But it is the so called gender and sexual identity curriculum topics for underage kids that makes me think that there are sinister forces behind it all. The US is actively working to impose such filth even in African nations. People need to recognize this as the existential issue for humanity that it is.

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    Post  elconquistador Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:15 pm

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20210131_02/

    Seems like the Brits actually want to go through with their sociopathic plan to relocate the entire HK population to GB

    5.2 million people can apply (70 percent of the locals)

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    Post  par far Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:46 pm

    elconquistador wrote:https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20210131_02/

    Seems like the Brits actually want to go through with their sociopathic plan to relocate the entire HK population to GB

    5.2 million people can apply (70 percent of the locals)

    England is pissed that China took full control of Hong Kong because bankers in London lost control and  lost lot of money.

    Life standards in England are likely to go down(as well the rest of the west.)

    What I think will happen:

    People will go to England but majority of them will return after seeing what life is like in England.

    It is not like China has a population problem, if the trouble makers leave Hong Kong and they are replaced with mainland population, it is a win.

    What people don't know majority of Hong Kongers did not support the protesters. The protesters have already left because they will face jail time.

    One of main reasons that west(especially England) supported the protests hard in Hong Kong is because the bankers were making a vast amount of money in Hong Kong and it was a tax haven. But instead of just making money these assholes wanted to fuck with politics in Hong Kong.
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    Post  elconquistador Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:16 pm

    par far wrote:
    elconquistador wrote:https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20210131_02/

    Seems like the Brits actually want to go through with their sociopathic plan to relocate the entire HK population to GB

    5.2 million people can apply (70 percent of the locals)

    England is pissed that China took full control of Hong Kong because bankers in London lost control and  lost lot of money.

    Life standards in England are likely to go down(as well the rest of the west.)

    What I think will happen:

    People will go to England but majority of them will return after seeing what life is like in England.

    It is not like China has a population problem, if the trouble makers leave Hong Kong and they are replaced with mainland population, it is a win.

    What people don't know majority of Hong Kongers did not support the protesters. The protesters have already left because they will face jail time.

    One of main reasons that west(especially England) supported the protests hard in Hong Kong is because the bankers were making a vast amount of money in Hong Kong and it was a tax haven. But instead of just making money these assholes wanted to fuck with politics in Hong Kong.

    I think you are spot on in your assessment. Soros has been using HK as one of his main bases to project influence (in China) for decades. The Chinese countered him and his buddies by building up ShenZhen as a competitor and later by taking over HK

    Leaving the globalist factions within the CCP out of the equation now, for the sake of clarity

    Also keep in mind that many HK-ers became multi millionaires thanks to the insane real estate boom of the 00s and 10s. Something which greatly angered the younger generation - geez its almost like I am starting to see Boomer-Millennial patterns all around the globe now.

    But yes. Are they going to leave their equities, their wealth? The CCP has installed many very effective measures to prohibit wealth leaving the country to the West.

    As for the protest, they were both. There was and is a lot of rightful anger about the slow cultural genocide that is taking place. There is also the generational wealth gap portrayed above - many youngsters are 30+ living with their parents with no perspective on ever. Moving out and finding a partner (marriage is extremely transactional in China and even HK). Local politics is another factor

    But there definitely was a big CIA/MI6 footprint in those protests. I think that it took the CCP by surprise, I mean they probably knew that there were tons of foreign agents operating on HK (read China soil) but not to this extent. They shut that down. Good

    East Asia (+South East Asia) - with the exception of Taiwan and Japan-has already come to the conclusion that China is the future. The local business elites (like the Chaebols and Keiretsus) know where the money is, and 10 times that in the future. Never mind SEA. Every big infrastructural project is Chinese these days. On a political level they'll l likely play the US and China against each other for the next <10 years

    These HKers are jumping onto a sinking ship. Not a winning strategy.

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    Post  par far Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:28 am

    "French refugee center manager stabbed to death by asylum seeker – police"


    https://www.rt.com/news/516081-france-pau-refugee-attack-investigation/

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    Post  elconquistador Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:13 am

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    You, peasants, have your independent fact checkers so what do you need your own brain for?!

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    Post  LMFS Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:55 am

    Now that is a 2000% Orwellian world we live in, when they have to teach you not to think because it may take you to the wrong conclusions clown clown clown clown
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    Post  kvs Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:33 am

    Yeah, some fake stream media hack has the intellectual authority and credentials to tell me how to use my brain.
    This is Orwellian perversion. These clowns are assigning themselves the right to decide on everyone's behalf
    what is right and wrong.

    I have empirical data from inside Russia that contradicts the "theorizing" in the western fake stream media. I am
    supposed to throw the empirical evidence away and believe the theories being force fed to me by the fake stream
    media. That is the definition of cult organization following a cult dogma.

    I don't recall this shit back in the 1970s and until only the last few years. This is social engineering in action and
    not some acceptable viewpoint.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:26 pm

    They want cheaper labour and highly educated people expect more in terms of salaries and benefits than less well educated people do.

    We don't need you to be smart but we don't want you to offend the guy operating the machine next to you just because he does not know whether he is male or female or mail or femail today...
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    Post  LMFS Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:07 am

    GarryB wrote:They want cheaper labour and highly educated people expect more in terms of salaries and benefits than less well educated people do.

    We don't need you to be smart but we don't want you to offend the guy operating the machine next to you just because he does not know whether he is male or female or mail or femail today...

    The intellectual development paradox is one of the main problem these retarded leaders that we have need to address. The more they take everything away from us, the more stupid they need us to be, but in order to defeat raising powers, they would need us smart and sharp as nothing in this world. Of course in the doubt they dumb us down and hope the AI will save them. By now it is clear the dumbing-down has escaped their control and infected them too...

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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:01 am



    Good "rant" but I would qualify the blanket tagging of socialist-communist mass murder as social engineering mass murder.
    The appeal to left wing talking points is because they resonate with most humans who are social animals and have
    community values. So it is obvious that the worms that lust for power would use these nice sounding themes to gain
    power. We see this in the USA where the so-called left-of-center Democrats are corporate whores who are the imperial
    war party engaged in endless meddling and wars of control around the planet.
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    Post  elconquistador Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:28 pm

    Guide: U.S. teachers to tackle racism in math

    SALEM. The U.S. state of Oregon has declared war on racism in math classes. In the future, teachers are to learn by means of a guide that even supposedly correct results of arithmetic problems are about "white supremacy".

    The state's education bureaucrats want to use a total of five steps to guide educators "toward continuous self-reflection" "as they seek to develop anti-racist math practices," according to the program. To that end, teachers should also abandon supposedly outdated notions that there are "neutral answers." Adhering to this belief is "in itself a trait of white supremacy." Black, Latino and multilingual students in grades six through eight are expected to benefit from the new guidelines.

    In order not to discriminate against these groups, at least two answers will apply in the future. To that end, the letter says, "The concept that math is purely objective is false. Preserving the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuates objectivity."

    Mathematics serves to preserve capitalism

    Past homework practices also belong under scrutiny, according to the new guidelines. For example, the "homework policy should be adapted to meet the needs of students of color," he said.

    In the future, teachers should also consider the overall social dimension of their subject. Thus, they are asked to work out "how mathematics is used to preserve capitalist, imperialist, and racist views."

    The state of Oregon in the northwestern United States is considered a liberal stronghold. The city of Portland, located there, was the site of months of rioting by the Black Lives Matter movement last year. Democratic Governor Kate Brown nevertheless rejected the use of federal police against the rioters.

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    Post  elconquistador Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:32 pm

    Stage 4 terminal cancer. 10 years from now people will say 'in the end she went fast, didn't she?'

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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:59 pm

    The attack on mathematics in the education system stems from the utter failure of the "disadvantaged and oppressed" babies
    to deal with it.   It is an IQ test and they fail.   So the participation trophy "solution" is to remove "the problem" (literally).  
    This is idiocracy in action.   By the end of high school, children will have the education of 3 year olds because every subject
    gives a hard time to some subset of inadequates and PC dogma denies objective reality that their failure is an actual failure
    of ability and not due to "white supremacy".

    This is part of the same rotten dogma that there is a continuum of "genders" instead of two biological sexes.   Social relativism
    paves the road to Hell.  

    To all the kooks that will attack my position.   Get fcuked.   It is my lived experience.  I liked learning and did homework
    instead of reacting to it like someone trying to push my head under water.   I saw others who did not like learning and exerted
    minimal effort trying.   They resisted learning and nobody was oppressing these losers.   They only had their own sloth to blame.  
    This sloth cost them of critical brain development.   Humans are not born with fully developed brains.   We are the only primate
    species where the number of neurons increases after birth until the age of four.   But it is more than just about how many neurons.  
    We also develop our intelligence through learning.   Take a child and put it in the wild to be "raised by wolves" and you will get
    basically an animal that by their early teens will no longer be able to recover to a normal intelligence level.    

    If you want to understand the intelligence level of past societies and what can happen in our future, you have to consider
    that intelligence is not intrinsic but an environmental construct.   Medieval peasants thought at the same level as 8 year
    olds outside of immediate social skills developed through interaction with other humans.   That is why there was so much
    ignorance about the physical world including health and nutrition.   Believing in spirits and devils making you sick is easier
    than understanding what is actually happening.  

    The dumbing down of the education system is the same as dumbing down of the proles.

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    Post  kvs Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:50 am



    One comment below this video sums up the current state of PC education:

    No BS, my son was the “only” kid in class to get a 100 on his math test. His teacher gave him a 50 and said he must have cheated because nobody else scored that high. Hold my beer salty.

    America will get ahead with such BS. Not.

    I bet this "teacher" gave some clown with a zero a 50 for trying and because he was underprivileged and whitey's at fault for everyone's problems.

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    Post  LMFS Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:31 am

    This education will result in the same kind of reality oblivious childish retards we suffer in this forum, for which facts need to conform to their will and not the other way around. A fair portion of getting humbleness inside of our cranium comes from studying maths and physics, where things are what they are and not what we would like them to be. Reality puts us people in technical fields in our right place relentlessly, until we get the message. Remove hard cold STEM learning and turn it into "non-oppressive" crap that values not disappointing brats more than anything and prepare for a true social and scientific rot, that society of overgrown schoolboys is not going to be nice to live in No

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    Post  kvs Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:52 am

    LMFS wrote:This education will result in the same kind of reality oblivious childish retards we suffer in this forum, for which facts need to conform to their will and not the other way around. A fair portion of getting humbleness inside of our cranium comes from studying maths and physics, where things are what they are and not what we would like them to be. Reality puts us people in technical fields in our right place relentlessly, until we get the message. Remove hard cold STEM learning and turn it into "non-oppressive" crap that values not disappointing brats more than anything and prepare for a true social and scientific rot, that society of overgrown schoolboys is not going to be nice to live in No

    Very well put, sir.

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    Post  kvs Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:05 am

    A problem of all this BLM anti-white hysteria is that it paints all Caucasians as slave owners. My ancestors were serfs (*) like most
    people in the Russian Empire and not slave owners. Pushkin, Russia's top poet, is of black heritage because his grandfather was
    brought as a slave from central Africa

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abram_Petrovich_Gannibal

    So instead of being worked to death on some plantation, Gannibal was freed and became part of the Russian nobility. Yet I am
    supposedly guilty of all the mistreatment of blacks in America. Seriously, GTFO.

    Also, it is a lie that white Americans have collective guilt for black slavery. Slavery was the affair of the 1%. And white slavery
    was a real problem via indentured servitude. It especially affected white women. One way to keep them on the plantation was
    to rape them. The laws of those days were a freak show.

    (*) It was westernizer and reformer Peter the Great that reinstated serfdom in Russia. It naturally disappeared until the do gooder
    showed up. The serfs were freed in the 1860s and left a class of economically dispossessed people that became cannon fodder for
    revolution. One of those responsible for the 1917 coup was Peter the Great.




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    Post  elconquistador Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:14 pm

    With a gentle reminder that 'offensive' is defined as such by the alleged recipient

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    Post  kvs Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:22 am

    This is hypocritical BS. It is OK for all the regime approved elements to spout hate and engage in cancel culture, but
    someone saying that there are only two biological sexes and that all lives matter is "offensive".
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:24 am

    elconquistador wrote:With a gentle reminder that 'offensive' is defined as such by the alleged recipient

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    Is that in UK?
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    Post  kvs Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:27 am

    Yes, it is for sure the UK. The outfit of the cops and the British crown symbol (E ii R: Elizabeth II Regina) on the banner of perversion confirm it.


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