Tsavo Lion wrote:East of the Barents Sea, along the entire NSR, & in the Bering Sea, SSNs will be needed, even in ice free/coastal waters, as those huge areas r remote with "no services".
or drones
GarryB wrote:
Wow... almost what I have been saying... they don't need a blue water navy now... they don't have the infrastructure or support ships to operate one now, but with the development and growth of the navy over the next few years they can build up their navy and start planning blue water vessels for the future when they will find them very useful.
wow, besides VSTOL where you are obviously biased and wrong tempered, here you seem to be realistic dude
LMFS wrote:Implementation of naval strategy continues despite NATO, corruption, 5th column, defeatists and all the odds:
c'mon there are always chicken-little-defeatists who see navy as dead or nearly dead. There are always to postive people who see the world as nato has no chances too .
To me the best is to try to assess situation with bare facts. Emotions we alwasy can add later. Strategy will continue, as it lwasy does. It is a process with metrics which are changing now to better. Vide in 2018 SAP should be nearly 100% delivered AFAIK first time since 2011. Poliment-Redut is now ready, new radars,new battle managemnt systems, new turbines too, shipyards improved. Only cash and time is needed right?
remainder of story is even more intriguing:
"[The program of military shipbuilding] is being carried out in stages. Currently, the Navy has deployed the serial construction of ships of the near-sea zone of a new generation and in parallel is designing ships of the far sea zone. In the very near future the serial construction of surface ships of a large displacement of the far-sea zone will be launched" said Tryapichnikov at the ceremony of receiving the small Orekhovo-Zuyevo rocket ship into the Black Sea Fleet.
(A)
He clarified that in the next five years the fleet will receive frigates of the same type as the Admiral Gorshkov, as well as large landing ships of the Ivan Gren type (project 11711). For the remaining types of ships, the dates are not yet called.
According to Tryapichnikov, ships for the near-sea zone are carriers of high-precision weapons. "Today it can be stated that in a number of parameters, including armament complexes, we are superior to foreign-built ships. Small rocket ships that are being built for the Russian Navy have already proven their effectiveness, operating in the Mediterranean, at a considerable distance from permanent points basing ", added the rear admiral.
(B) It is planned that the basis of the groupings of ships in the ocean zone will be made up of multifunctional ships of the new generation, which have enhanced combat capabilities in terms of attack and defensive potential. To solve tasks in the far sea zone, frigates will form the basis of the Navy ships - their capabilities will allow solving a wide range of tasks and strengthening the part of the fleet that will perform tasks in the ocean zone.
(A) if in next 5 years? I bet on Gorskhov-M's . 3 Gorskhovs already built so production seems to be mastered. Now time to FGG size of DDG ;-) Of course can be leader but with small amount of 22350 would be more effective built 22350M to my educated guess. Liders couple of years later. But we will need to live to see what is gonna be...
(B) universal ships and groupings? looks like universal carrier/TAKR strike groups to me - vide Rakhmanov recetn remark about universal ship with 4 functions
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