I actually liked the busy look on Russian ships...
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Russian Navy: Status & News #4
GarryB- Posts : 40551
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Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4
A cruiser is still going to have a lot of antenna for ESM and ECM as well as various search and tracking sets for the various weapon types, but they should all be linked together so they wont all need to be running at the same time...
I actually liked the busy look on Russian ships...
I actually liked the busy look on Russian ships...
Tsavo Lion- Posts : 5960
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Not all of them r working at the same time. After modernization, there will be less radars.
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In Russia, the development of new anti-ship complexes with cruise missiles continues
This was announced by the first deputy general director of JSC "MIC" NPO Mashinostroeniya "Vyacheslav Martynov.
- At present, we are still engaged in three main areas, all of which are related to defense. The first is the creation of new, promising missile systems with anti-ship cruise missiles, said Martynov at the 43rd academic Korolev readings.
He did not dwell more on promising patterns of cruise missiles for national security reasons, saying that NPO Mashinostroenia also manufactures and deploys fourth-generation cruise missiles designed to destroy enemy ship strike forces in conditions of strong radar, electronic and fire countermeasures on submarines boats, surface ships, as well as in the composition of mobile coastal missile systems "Bastion".
http://redstar.ru/v-rossii-prodolzhaetsya-razrabotka-novyh-protivokorabelnyh-kompleksov-s-krylatymi-raketami/
This was announced by the first deputy general director of JSC "MIC" NPO Mashinostroeniya "Vyacheslav Martynov.
- At present, we are still engaged in three main areas, all of which are related to defense. The first is the creation of new, promising missile systems with anti-ship cruise missiles, said Martynov at the 43rd academic Korolev readings.
He did not dwell more on promising patterns of cruise missiles for national security reasons, saying that NPO Mashinostroenia also manufactures and deploys fourth-generation cruise missiles designed to destroy enemy ship strike forces in conditions of strong radar, electronic and fire countermeasures on submarines boats, surface ships, as well as in the composition of mobile coastal missile systems "Bastion".
http://redstar.ru/v-rossii-prodolzhaetsya-razrabotka-novyh-protivokorabelnyh-kompleksov-s-krylatymi-raketami/
Isos- Posts : 11602
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countermeasures on submarines boats, surface ships, as well as in the composition of mobile coastal missile systems "Bastion".
Funny how no one thought about it but ... russia is deploying oniks on coastal systems.A missile which has a range of more than 500km with ground attack mode. So they are violating the INF treaty actually since long time ago.
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Isos wrote:countermeasures on submarines boats, surface ships, as well as in the composition of mobile coastal missile systems "Bastion".
Funny how no one thought about it but ... russia is deploying oniks on coastal systems.A missile which has a range of more than 500km with ground attack mode. So they are violating the INF treaty actually since long time ago.
Shhhhhh, we don't talk about the Fight Club
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If they r only anti-ship, not land attack, there's no violation!..russia is deploying oniks on coastal systems.A missile which has a range of more than 500km with ground attack mode. So they are violating the INF treaty actually since long time ago.
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Tsavo Lion wrote:If they r only anti-ship, not land attack, there's no violation!..russia is deploying oniks on coastal systems.A missile which has a range of more than 500km with ground attack mode. So they are violating the INF treaty actually since long time ago.
They used it against a land target in syria so it is a confirmation.
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They used Kh-35 not Onix
Isos- Posts : 11602
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LMFS wrote:They used Kh-35 not Onix
Bastion P was used last year. There is a video from the MoD too.
Tsavo Lion- Posts : 5960
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Yes, they r different missiles. Inspections can confirm absence of LACMs at those coastal locations.
But it's a moot point: the Calibres on small ships/boats on internal waterways & closed seas made the NPT obsolete for the US.
But it's a moot point: the Calibres on small ships/boats on internal waterways & closed seas made the NPT obsolete for the US.
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Tsavo Lion wrote:Yes, they r different missiles. Inspections can confirm absence of LACMs at those coastal locations.
But it's a moot point: the Calibres on small ships/boats on internal waterways & closed seas made the NPT obsolete for the US.
Agree. They were never expecting russia to create their own "tomahawk". They expected be the only country with a 1500+km range cruise missile with a very good precision and just destroy countries they don't like with tomahawks from far away.
They realized that even poor country like pakistan have their own long range cruise missiles so they need a new mighty weapon to terrorize the world with.
Tsavo Lion- Posts : 5960
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No they did, but they didn't expect Russia to fit them on small boats instead of only big ships & subs, which they don't have in large #s.They were never expecting russia to create their own "tomahawk".
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dino00 wrote:In Russia, the development of new anti-ship complexes with cruise missiles continues
I wonder if mini-Zircon is gonna be a part of family.
Tsavo Lion wrote:No they did, but they didn't expect Russia to fit them on small boats instead of only big ships & subs, which they don't have in large #s.They were never expecting Russia to create their own "tomahawk".
especially when ll those small rocket ships will have own drones to increase range of radar horizon.
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The performance figures given for Onyx in the land based launch system is for a 600km diameter range against land and sea targets, so the flight range of the missile is 300km so it is not even close to violating the INF treaty... nice try though...
The Mk-41 launchers the US is installing in eastern europe is fully compatible with the Tomahawk cruise missile... a very clear violation of the INF treaty... as well as UCAVs with ranges between 500km and 5,500km which would also count as IRCMs, and of course they have tested a few of their missiles with target missiles that seem to have performance that would put them in the INF treaty range category.
AFAIK SAMs are exempt from the treaty so S-500 with a 600km range would be fine, as is SM-3... which kinda makes a mockery of the whole agreement anyway as it is likely both systems can probably also hit ground targets too.
The Mk-41 launchers the US is installing in eastern europe is fully compatible with the Tomahawk cruise missile... a very clear violation of the INF treaty... as well as UCAVs with ranges between 500km and 5,500km which would also count as IRCMs, and of course they have tested a few of their missiles with target missiles that seem to have performance that would put them in the INF treaty range category.
AFAIK SAMs are exempt from the treaty so S-500 with a 600km range would be fine, as is SM-3... which kinda makes a mockery of the whole agreement anyway as it is likely both systems can probably also hit ground targets too.
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Caspian Flotilla Highlights Growing International Role of Russia’s Coastal Navy
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Tsavo Lion wrote:Caspian Flotilla Highlights Growing International Role of Russia’s Coastal Navy
The opening paragrapgh includes the obligatory BS such as Russias "aggressive action" in siezing the Banderite garbage scows that tried to run the strait. Oh well, its the Jamestown Foundation, and NATOist rats will do what's in their nature...
Tsavo Lion- Posts : 5960
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As 1 Jewish saying goes, 'any good looking apple may have a worm inside". The rest of the article is spot on. Just because the Caspian is a lake, it doesn't mean that the Flotilla is restricted to it.
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CNO Richardson Calls for Tougher Actions in Gray Zone Conflicts with Russia, China
https://news.usni.org/2019/02/06/cno-richardson-calls-tougher-actions-gray-zone-conflicts-russia-china
https://news.usni.org/2019/02/06/cno-richardson-calls-tougher-actions-gray-zone-conflicts-russia-china
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And that a day after one of the news channels in Trumpistan puplished a report about the last "mishaps" of their navy, the collisions with civil ships in the last months. Their findings: poorly maintained ships, their radars couldn´t even see the surrounding civil ships, and poorly trained sailors. One of the helmsman hadn´t touched the navigation system of the ship even once before he was ordered to steer it!
But... "maritime superiority"
But... "maritime superiority"
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Looks what he says
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When asked by an audience member about how to deal with Russian aggression and military buildup in the Eastern Mediterranean and in the Black Sea, Richardson called for going on the offensive to put Russia on its heels.
The admiral said the U.S. needed to consider “not only responses in pushing back [against Russian aggression], but how do we push first in a couple of areas? I think it would be great if we could get folks, Russians, some of these competitors to respond to our first move. There’s an advantage every now and then to playing the white side of the board,” he said.
Speaking of previous deterrence efforts, CNO said “we’ve been consistently present in the Black Sea, the United States Navy, and in fact we did two deployments up there just in the month of January alone. We’re working very closely in exercising with the navies in the Eastern Mediterranean, the Black Sea region, so staying engaged in there, staying present. Actions consistent with words, I think, is an important part of that.”
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When asked by an audience member about how to deal with Russian aggression and military buildup in the Eastern Mediterranean and in the Black Sea, Richardson called for going on the offensive to put Russia on its heels.
The admiral said the U.S. needed to consider “not only responses in pushing back [against Russian aggression], but how do we push first in a couple of areas? I think it would be great if we could get folks, Russians, some of these competitors to respond to our first move. There’s an advantage every now and then to playing the white side of the board,” he said.
Speaking of previous deterrence efforts, CNO said “we’ve been consistently present in the Black Sea, the United States Navy, and in fact we did two deployments up there just in the month of January alone. We’re working very closely in exercising with the navies in the Eastern Mediterranean, the Black Sea region, so staying engaged in there, staying present. Actions consistent with words, I think, is an important part of that.”
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LMFS- Posts : 5167
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Austin wrote:Looks what he says
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When asked by an audience member about how to deal with Russian aggression and military buildup in the Eastern Mediterranean and in the Black Sea, Richardson called for going on the offensive to put Russia on its heels.
The admiral said the U.S. needed to consider “not only responses in pushing back [against Russian aggression], but how do we push first in a couple of areas? I think it would be great if we could get folks, Russians, some of these competitors to respond to our first move. There’s an advantage every now and then to playing the white side of the board,” he said.
Speaking of previous deterrence efforts, CNO said “we’ve been consistently present in the Black Sea, the United States Navy, and in fact we did two deployments up there just in the month of January alone. We’re working very closely in exercising with the navies in the Eastern Mediterranean, the Black Sea region, so staying engaged in there, staying present. Actions consistent with words, I think, is an important part of that.”
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Even US military is in full retard mode now. Yes man, try to attack Russia in the Black Sea, that will be funny to see
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LMFS wrote:Even US military is in full retard mode now. Yes man, try to attack Russia in the Black Sea, that will be funny to see
Haha.. Yep, I'd say bring it on seppo trash
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https://southfront.org/russian-nuclear-submarines-weapons-of-global-war/
Tsavo Lion- Posts : 5960
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Naval units of the military police will appear in Russia in 2019
https://regnum.ru/news/society/2570535.html
In the US, the CG does harbor patrol & inspections, AFAIK.
https://regnum.ru/news/society/2570535.html
In the US, the CG does harbor patrol & inspections, AFAIK.
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Missile fired toward Norwegian intel ship Marjata. But no hit. They only scared them. This ship is said to always monitor northern fleet during exercices or deployments.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Edward_Sn0wden/status/1096747112056934401
https://mobile.twitter.com/Edward_Sn0wden/status/1096747112056934401