Syrian War: News #17

(US?) missile strike starting!

https://twitter.com/WaelAlRussi/status/983148235274498049


This is official
The #US warships in the Mediterranean sea are launching a missiles attack against the #SAA
A first wave targeted the T4 AB east of #Homs
A second wave is inbound.


UPDATE:

https://twitter.com/WaelAlRussi/status/983157072865972224

The #WhiteHouse denied that the US targeted the #SAA
But every one in Syria including me thought that it was the #US because the missiles came from the sea and with large numbers.
#Israel might just used its subs to launch a cruise missile attack on #Syria


Syrian Arab Army (Facebook):

"According to initial reports that although accurate but yet need to be more verified:
Syrian Air Defenses are engaging number of enemy projectiles that were fired toward Riad Qayasa Air Force Base (Aka T-4 AFB) The projectiles entered the Syrian Airspace coming from the Mediterranean Sea.
SyAAD missiles were heard over Northern Lebanon all the way to Northern Beirut, while are seen engaging hostile targets in multiple locations (yet to be disclosed) inside Syrian territories.
Syrian Coastal Defense and SyAAF are on full alert.
More information when appropriate."

"Relax people just because the enemy fired missiles does not mean their missiles reached their targets.
We cannot disclose much yet, but as an example; at least one missile was downed in al-Majd Countryside in Homs.
We will share more information when we can and when appropriate to do so, however the main source of information is not us nor anyone other than the Syrian Ministry of Defenses"

"SyAAF and RuAF are airborne over the Syrian Coastline and number of Syrian areas.
At this point and unless/until the situation deescalate we will cease sharing any information awaiting an official statement."


rt.com:

Syrian Air Defenses respond to ‘missile attack’ on airbase in Homs – state media

It's claimed that US isn't involved in this and it was Israel.

Fingers crossed that the SyAAF defenses can whittle away the incoming strike, and that Russian ECM can spoof a good number.

Can't say i'd be sorry if one or two AB get smacked with a AShM or three...

Fucking Murikkkan and ZioNazi cunts....  Attacking Syria because of an obvious false-flag CW atrocity staged by the JaI child-poisoning terror group....   how low and fucking despicable can these dirty evil neocon cunts get?

miketheterrible wrote:It's claimed that US isn't involved in this and it was Israel.

Israelis playing dirty games to involve both parties (US-Russia) into a conflict? possible! remember USS Liberty incident.

Russians allowed this to become a free for all. Did not establish a no fly zone when they entered and after the first attack (with cause).

Weakness and bluff being exploited. No one to blame but Putin and his cadre. No amount of spin and "but but but" will change this.

Up your game...

ATLASCUB wrote:Russians allowed this to become a free for all. Did not establish a no fly zone when they entered and after the first attack.

Weakness and bluff being exploited.

patience my friend! russia will not fell for a trap, there will be no escalation if some missile hit unimportant targets with no russian casualties

lycantrop wrote:

ATLASCUB wrote:Russians allowed this to become a free for all. Did not establish a no fly zone when they entered and after the first attack.

Weakness and bluff being exploited.

patience my friend! russia will not fell for a trap, there will be no escalation if some missile hit unimportant targets with no russian casualties

You'll never know id there are russian casualties if the purpose is to take it up the ass. It will be buried.

I don't agree with the course taken of not establishing a no fly zone (early after intervening, and after the first attack (with enough cause)). So my "patience" was lost a long time ago. What we see are the consequences of the decisions taken by Putin and his cadre...to appease and draw red lines he's not willing to act upon (aka bluffs). Obama would be proud...

ATLASCUB wrote:

lycantrop wrote:

ATLASCUB wrote:Russians allowed this to become a free for all. Did not establish a no fly zone when they entered and after the first attack.

Weakness and bluff being exploited.

patience my friend! russia will not fell for a trap, there will be no escalation if some missile hit unimportant targets with no russian casualties

You'll never know id there are russian casualties if the purpose is to take it up the ass. It will be buried.

Well, one would need to know if the RuAF or Russia had people at T4 airbase first.

lycantrop wrote:

ATLASCUB wrote:Russians allowed this to become a free for all. Did not establish a no fly zone when they entered and after the first attack.

Weakness and bluff being exploited.

patience my friend! russia will not fell for a trap, there will be no escalation if some missile hit unimportant targets with no russian casualties

I think Israel is only teaching US navy ,how to attack Syria ,and run away with it..
By Using Submarines..

Eventually if Russia do nothing in retaliation ,it risk France ,US and Britain to follow with cruise missiles
attacks too..

This was all seen happening ,long time ago . since targeting a submarine will be more difficult for Syria
and Russia airforce unless it have submarines in the mediterranean sea.. chasing All NATO subs positions
there.

I do expect more attacks from US ,France and UK submarines.. it seems ISrael was only
leading the charge.. so stay tune..

By the way.. isn't this the same base Trump target in previous cruise missile attack ?

Yeah, this does open a rather big can of worms here. If Syria doesn't retaliate, then they will attempt more.

In this regard, it really looks like they (shooter) was really trying their damnedest to not hit anything that may represent as Russian. Hence why the missiles flew over lebanon at T4 airbase.

Apparently, according to some, it was Pantsir's and Buks stationed at T4 that shot majority of the incoming cruise missiles down.

miketheterrible wrote:

ATLASCUB wrote:

lycantrop wrote:

ATLASCUB wrote:Russians allowed this to become a free for all. Did not establish a no fly zone when they entered and after the first attack.

Weakness and bluff being exploited.

patience my friend! russia will not fell for a trap, there will be no escalation if some missile hit unimportant targets with no russian casualties

You'll never know id there are russian casualties if the purpose is to take it up the ass. It will be buried.

Well, one would need to know if the RuAF or Russia had people at T4 airbase first.

How many Russian lives have been lost already to this conflict? Plenty...so the idea that a direct attack will be of significant difference vs. indirect through proxy which has resulted in a proportion of multitudes higher is a joke.

Decision was there at Putin's table. He didn't take it. He bears the responsibility of that decision.

I mean the fuck is Putin doing allowing Israel strike freely... it's beyond the pale trying to accommodate the Jewish interest which are diametrically opposed to yours. Just beyond stupid. Can't please everyone...the idea that you can accommodate everyone's interest in this conflict is the reason Syria became a free for all.

You are running on emtions and assumptions rather than logic. Direct attack from US or others is very different. That is obvious through UN and Geneva law.

But whatever. Before getting jacked up and pulling your average Vann or eehnie about Putin this or that, it's best to wait.

Vann7 wrote:

lycantrop wrote:

ATLASCUB wrote:Russians allowed this to become a free for all. Did not establish a no fly zone when they entered and after the first attack.

Weakness and bluff being exploited.

patience my friend! russia will not fell for a trap, there will be no escalation if some missile hit unimportant targets with no russian casualties

I think Israel is only teaching US navy ,how to attack Syria ,and run away with it..
By Using Submarines..

Eventually if Russia do nothing in retaliation ,it risk France ,US and Britain to follow with cruise missiles
attacks too..

This was all seen happening ,long time ago . since targeting a submarine will be more difficult for Syria
and Russia airforce unless it have submarines in the mediterranean sea.. chasing All NATO subs positions
there.

I do expect more attacks from US ,France and UK submarines.. it seems ISrael was only
leading the charge.. so stay tune..

By the way.. isn't this the same base Trump target in previous cruise missile attack ?

i can assure you, russia knows the locations of enemys submarines...

miketheterrible wrote:You are running on emtions and assumptions rather than logic. Direct attack from US or others is very different. That is obvious through UN and Geneva law.

But whatever. Before getting jacked up and pulling your average Vann or eehnie about Putin this or that, it's best to wait.

You're really citing the weight of international law as it pertains to this conflict. Lol.

There is no "emotional outburst". I just disagree with the decisions taken, and the consequences are clear. If you agree with them, understand them or support them.. that's up to you and your logic/rationale.

Trying to establish pecking order after allowing everyone to take a bite will be much more difficult - not to mention prone to invite all sort of challenges to authority.

Strategic mistake from the very beginning - simple as that.

i can assure you, russia knows the locations of enemys submarines...

How do you know?

In more news Almanas news ..say Syrian Government claims it shot down 8 cruise missiles.
but this looks like a very low number.. if the attack was as large as previous one for example..

Is interesting how Israel /NATO are training Russia,Syria,IRAN,China,and even HEzbolah how to perfectionate
the interception of their cruise missiles ,combat planes,drones and ballistic missiles..

Because eventually when the attacks ends.. They will do a major analysis what things they did right
and what things not.. and how to improve their efficiency .So this is why Israel lost 2-3 combat planes and few drones in the former attack. albeit only one F-16 reported down. The same is true for Israel and NATO , but air defenses will always have an edge over NATO outdated slow cruise missiles.

Although Russia does not have a deep layer of defense in Syria ,for territorial problems.. ie.. Rebels control large parts of Syria .. With a much larger territory.. Lets say IRAN ,it will be very difficult to penetrate deep inside ,iran large territory ,with IRAN controlling all its borders. and the jamming will be much more effective too..
if Russia can make a deal to deploy a base in Lebanon ,it will block many of the missiles /combat planes that enter
Lebanon Airspace. expanding the layer of defense even more.

Vann7 wrote:

i can assure you, russia knows the locations of enemys submarines...

How do you know?

In more news Almanas news ..say Syrian Government claims it shot down 8 cruise missiles.
but this looks like a very low number.. if the attack was as large as previous one for example..

Is interesting how Israel /NATO are training Russia,Syria,IRAN,China how to perfectionate
the interception of their cruise missiles ,combat planes,drones and ballistic missiles..

Because eventually when the attacks ends.. They will do a major analysis what things they did right
and what things not.. So this is why Israel lost 2-3 combat planes and few drones in the former attack.
albeit only one F-16 reported down. The same is true for Israel and NATO , but air defenses will always
have an edge over NATO outdated cruise missiles.

The learning goes both ways. They learn as well what went wrong, and what the capabilities of their rivals are. They adjust tactics and weaponry (if need be).

ATLASCUB wrote:
The learning goes both ways. They learn as well what went wrong, and what the capabilities of their rivals are. They adjust tactics and weaponry (if need be).

yes.. i stated that.. but the thing is that There is not much room for improvement of tactics for NATO..
if their cruise missiles are limited to Tomahawks or any other slow subsonic missiles. This is because
any anti air artillery from world war 2..can defeat any NATO/israel subsonic cruise missile..Russia even
have manpads Verba ,that can shot down them.. but special forces needs to be in the right places..
if you know the flight path. Also an easy target for laser defenses.. but when we talk about Supersonic missiles or Hypersonic ones.. the complexity exponentially increase.. and so the learning and training significantly benefits
more the Syrian and Russia side.

lycantrop wrote:

i can assure you, russia knows the locations of enemys submarines...

They better as far as the Med is concerned. Gulf and Red still give you some time to hedge. Med is insta kill.

Vann7 wrote:

i can assure you, russia knows the locations of enemys submarines...

How do you know?

russia has satellites and lately also planes deployed in Syria who can detect them.
Satellites are tracking them.
they use highly sensitive sensors (detection of earth's gravitation/earth's magnetic field anomalys, changing of the salt-water concentration...)

If this ends up being another missile dumping into irelevant pre-advertised location by US administration in order to get cookie points​ from liberal media then best solution is to let it slide while they finish cleaning up Ghouta

If they really do launch onto Russian positions or go for high value Syrian targets then it's ball game for VKS

PapaDragon wrote:
If this ends up being another missile dumping into irelevant pre-advertised location by US administration in order to get cookie points​ from liberal media then best solution is to let it slide while they finish cleaning up Ghouta

If they really do launch onto Russian positions or go for high value Syrian targets then it's ball game for VKS

Conflicting reports now..
Sputnik.. says..

In contradiction with SANA news' reports, the source said that there were no casualties as a result of a missile strike,  and the airbase did not suffer any material damage.
There is an unconfirmed footage circulating on social media which allegedly shows unidentified jets flying over Lebanon toward Syria.

If this is confirmed.. it will be very embarrassing for who ever did the attack...
albeit the attack was very small.. so is a small victory.. if confirmed.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804091063350117-syrian-airbase-rocket-attack/


This however does not reduce the major test of fire...and danger..for Syria now..
France can follow ,then UK and last US.. and they could launch 200 cruise missiles or so.. which it will complicate
or could overwhelm the defenses of Syria.. Just like in Manbji ,Americans will like to use others as human shields as much as possible.... So to save face and save the humiliation of American soldiers wiped in the battle field by Turkey army,or Syria or IRAN or Russia. so next 24 to 48 hours will be very important.

PapaDragon wrote:
If this ends up being another missile dumping into irelevant pre-advertised location by US administration in order to get cookie points​ from liberal media then best solution is to let it slide while they finish cleaning up Ghouta

If they really do launch onto Russian positions or go for high value Syrian targets then it's ball game for VKS

+1, thats what I`m sayin', act logical, not emotional


https://twitter.com/WaelAlRussi/status/983178780784160768

So it was Israel with its Dolphin class subs
Syria already sunk an israeli Dolphin class in 2013, just sayin'

Why did Israel attack Homs air base ? What is the reason

lycantrop wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
If this ends up being another missile dumping into irelevant pre-advertised location by US administration in order to get cookie points​ from liberal media then best solution is to let it slide while they finish cleaning up Ghouta

If they really do launch onto Russian positions or go for high value Syrian targets then it's ball game for VKS

+1, thats what I`m sayin', act logical, not emotional


https://twitter.com/WaelAlRussi/status/983178780784160768

So it was Israel with its Dolphin class subs
Syria already sunk an israeli  Dolphin class in 2013, just sayin'

yep Patience but with strength and calculated moves..and diplomacy..
This is the way Putin achieved most of their objectives in Syria ,without having
to deploy a very expensive large army and airforce that will sink Russia budget.

ATLASCUB wrote: You're really citing the weight of international law as it pertains to this conflict. Lol.

There is no "emotional outburst". I just disagree with the decisions taken, and the consequences are clear. If you agree with them, understand them or support them.. that's up to you and your logic/rationale.

Trying to establish pecking order after allowing everyone to take a bite will be much more difficult - not to mention prone to invite all sort of challenges to authority.

Strategic mistake from the very beginning - simple as that.

Volunteers are needed in Novorossiya and various support contractors working for RAF in Syria are also looking for some good hands. Care to put your actions where your mouth is?