[Official] Armata Discussion thread #1

Zivo wrote:The roof mounted guns on the model don't appear to have a feed system. The artist should have added some.

Aside from that, it's the best looking tank I've ever seen.

AbsoluteZero wrote:question: why are the wheels on the other half of the tank exposed and has rail armor instead? why cant they just extend the plate covering all the way to the rear? im not a tank expert so it might be for a reason? thanks!

Jane's International Defence Review 7/2007, pg. 15:

"IMPENETRABLE RUSSIAN TANK ARMOUR STANDS UP TO EXAMINATION"

By Richard M. Ogorkiewicz

Claims by NATO testers in the 1990s that the armour of Soviet Cold War tanks was “effectively impenetrable” have been supported by comments made following similar tests in the US.

Speaking at a conference on “The Future of Armoured Warfare” in London on the 30th May, IDR's Pentagon correspondent Leland Ness explained that US Army tests involving firing trials on 25 T-72A1 and 12 T-72B1 tanks (each fitted with Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armour [ERA]) had confirmed NATO tests done on other former Soviet tanks left behind in Germany after the end of the Cold War. The tests showed that the ERA and composite Armour of the T-72s was incredibly resilient to 1980s NATO anti-tank weapons.

In contrast to the original, or 'light', type of ERA which is effective only against shaped charge jets, the 'heavy' Kontakt-5 ERA is also effective against the long-rod penetrators of APFSDS tank gun projectiles, anti-tank missiles, and anti-armour rotary cannons. Explosive reactive armour was valued by the Soviet Union and its now-independent component states since the 1970s, and almost every tank in the eastern-European military inventory today has either been manufactured to use ERA or had ERA tiles added to it, including even the T-55 and T-62 tanks built forty to fifty years ago, but still used today by reserve units.

"During the tests we used only the weapons which existed with NATO armies during the last decade of the Cold War to determine how effective such weapons would have been against these examples of modern Soviet tank design. Our results were completely unexpected. When fitted to the T-72A1 and B1 the 'heavy' ERA made them immune to the DU (Depleted Uranium) penetrators of the M829A1 APFSDS (used by the 120 mm guns of the Cold War era US M1 Abrams tanks), which are among the most formidable of current tank gun projectiles. We also tested the 30mm GAU-8 Avenger (the gun of the A-10 Thunderbolt II Strike Plane), the 30mm M320 (the gun of the AH-64 Apache Attack Helicopter) and a range of standard NATO Anti Tank Guided Missiles – all with the same result of no penetration or effective destruction of the test vehicles. The combined protection of the standard armour and the ERA gives the Tanks a level of protection equal to our own. The myth of Soviet inferiority in this sector of arms production that has been perpetuated by the failure of downgraded T-72 export tanks in the Gulf Wars has, finally, been laid to rest. The results of these tests show that if a NATO/Warsaw Pact confrontation had erupted in Europe, the Soviets would have had parity (or perhaps even superiority) in armour” – U.S. Army Spokesperson at the show.

Newer KE penetrators have been designed since the Cold War to defeat the Kontakt-5 (although Kontakt-5 has been improved as well). As a response the Russian Army has produced a new type of ERA, “Relikt”, which is claimed to be two to three times as effective as Kontakt-5 and completely impenetrable against modern Western warheads.

Despite the collapse of the USSR, the Russian Tank industry has managed to maintain itself and its expertise in armour production, resulting in modern designs (such as the T-90, the T-95 and mysterious Black Eagle) to replace the, surprisingly, still effective Soviet era tanks. These tests will do much to discount the argument of the “Lion of Babylon” (the ineffective Iraqi version of the T-72M) and export quality tanks being compared to the more sophisticated and upgraded versions which existed in the Soviet military’s best Tank formations and continue to be developed in a resurgent Russian military industrial complex."

TR1 wrote:The price Sevmash is asking for each Yasen is astronomical, no getting around it.

Btw, nice new quote. Story of my life lately.

George1 wrote:Good news!!
Defense Ministry in February will receive more than 20 cars of platform "Armata"

"Uralvagonzavod" agrees with the military demonstration fighting qualities of the new track platform "Armata" at the exhibition Russia Arms Expo 2015 (RAE-2015), which will be held in September in Nizhny Tagil. It is reported by Tass quoted the deputy director general of the corporation Vyacheslav Khalitova.
"The general public would like to see the car not only in the Victory Parade, but with a demonstration of the firing properties and the properties of the mobility of the exhibition in Nizhny Tagil. Now comes the agreement of the Department of Defense, "- said Halitov.
Earlier, the head of "Uralvagonzavod" Oleg Sienko said that the demonstration of the new platform to the public will be the main task of RAE-2015. Prior to that, "Armata" can be seen at the Victory Parade in Moscow on May 9, 2015.

magnumcromagnon wrote:Interesting, according to Gurkhan T-95's radar had a range of 10km, so in all likeliness T-14 Armata should at least have equal range.

http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2015/01/14-21.html