[Official] Armata Discussion thread #1

More Details on Armata in this interview

Platform Armata and other samples of armored vehicles

Vyacheslav Halitov Vyacheslav Halitov deputy. Director of NPK "Uralvagonzavod" for special equipment

http://www.echo.msk.ru/programs/arsenal/1480668-echo/

magnumcromagnon wrote:Interesting, according to Gurkhan T-95's radar had a range of 10km, so in all likeliness T-14 Armata should at least have equal range.

http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2015/01/14-21.html

10km range top attack GL-ATGM would be nice, shoot them up like arty, use midcourse adjustment from the armata direct fire atgm laser guider and watch as tanks go boom.

ainet fused HE-F shells could already reach 12km, but only as indirect fire.

10km is comparable to the ground radars like Fara-1 and Credo-1 used for detecting moving and stationary ground targets like people and armour and light vehicles.

The MT-10 towed anti tank gun can use a radar aiming system too.

OMG

So it's a obj.195, why here?

Couldn't find a better thread, and wanted to post it ASAP.

TR1 wrote:Couldn't find a better thread, and wanted to post it ASAP.

Nice pic but still covered turret like any other foto we have seen.

APS tubes are visible however.

Plus, biggest pic of hull side to date. Hoping these Dembel idiots took more.

Seams higher than it probably is.

That thing, it looks like it could be a independently elevated autocannon. If the barrel was on the far side of it, it would be just about vertically aligned with the main gun. It kind of looks like the crew accidentally depressed the autocannon while the tarp was still on, pulling it up a bit from its original position.

195 looks less like a prototype and more like a production war machine, I guess it really was ready for service a few years back.

Anyone recall what 195's APS was designated? It couldn't be Afghanistan could it?

Probably an AGS-17.

TBH it looks long... 7 road-wheels?

Mike E wrote:TBH it looks long... 7 road-wheels?

No carousel autoloader so it must be longer.

Werewolf wrote:

Mike E wrote:TBH it looks long... 7 road-wheels?

No carousel autoloader so it must be longer.

How does an carousel auto-loader affect the length of the hull?

Werewolf wrote:Probably an AGS-17.

It looks way to large to be an AGS-17.

Mike E wrote:TBH it looks long... 7 road-wheels?

Look at the size of the engine compartment... that's why it has the extra set of wheels.

How does an carousel auto-loader affect the length of the hull?

Having a carousel autoloader reduces the length of the turret or the hull, if you have Leclerc like autoloader the turret or/and hull needs to have more space, the same is expected of Armata to haver longer turret due autoloader, maybe longer hull.

Plus, biggest pic of hull side to date. Hoping these Dembel idiots took more.

They supply us with this photo and you call these angels idiots?

TR-1 you need help my friend...

Don't worry Armata will not have the profile of a two story building.

Don't expect a tiny low profile turret for most Armata vehicles... remember at the very least it will have lots of cameras up high to provide the crew down in the hull good all round observation, and lots of stuff is fitted to the turret for all sorts of reasons, perhaps including an independently aimed and fired 30mm cannon.

Anyone recall what 195's APS was designated? It couldn't be Afghanistan could it?

From the look of it it is based on Drozd and would be at least Drozd 2 or 3.

Drozd was tested in Afghanistan, but only covered the front quarter and was found to be effective in Afghanistn. Drozd 2 expanded the coverage of the rockets to make it effective to 360 degrees with smaller rocket tubes... this might use larger tubes over the front area and smaller tubes covering the rear and sides.

Would not likely be effective against APFSDS rounds so is likely not Afghanistan.

TBH it looks long... 7 road-wheels?

Extra vehicle length allows a steeper glacis plate with better protection features.

BTW my vote for the pic TR-1 thanks for posting.

One big tank:

http://se.uploads.ru/8S23G.jpg

TR1 wrote:One big tank:

http://se.uploads.ru/8S23G.jpg

hmm perhaps 2.5 m or more. very tall indeed.

Werewolf wrote:

Mike E wrote:TBH it looks long... 7 road-wheels?

No carousel autoloader so it must be longer.

afaik it uses a vertical (shell and propellant stub) carousel AL.

TR1 wrote:One big tank:

http://se.uploads.ru/8S23G.jpg

its one hell of a lean mean mofo- an abrams looks like a tub of lard in comparison.

collegeboy16 wrote:

TR1 wrote:One big tank:

http://se.uploads.ru/8S23G.jpg

its one hell of a lean mean mofo- an abrams looks like a tub of lard in comparison.

I really hope the T-14 Armata will have a hydraulic system that allows it to depress it's height, allowing more flexibility for tactical airlifts as well as allowing it to lower it's profile in hostile environments.

Another great article from rg.ru  

LINK



Several important points from the article

However, it is no secret that the one machine that created now and which will carry the name of the digital T-14, a slightly lighter version of the experimental object 195. In essence it is the same thing.

By the way, it is possible, even at the parade in honor of the 70th anniversary of the Victory, many elements of the tank shut false panels, which is justified. The machine has not yet passed military trials and the final shape of the tower is not formed. Most likely, the chassis and body kit will be different.

crew of three people located in bronekapsuly at the front of the chassis.

According to experts, the front projection has a multilayer composite armor protection, can withstand direct hits any type of today's shells - piercing and cumulative.

n addition, the forward hemisphere is covered by active defense capable to knock on the approach and any type of anti-tank weapons, including piercing projectiles that was previously thought impossible in principle.

Domestic diesel, and rather unusual design. The stated capacity - not less than 1500 hp

Combat information management system built on modern digital technology and solid element base of domestic production.

Body punctuated with video cameras. If required, the zoom is activated, and a distant object can be considered in detail. There is a possibility of thermal imaging and infrared vision in all weather conditions, day and night.

magnumcromagnon wrote:
I really hope the T-14 Armata will have a hydraulic system that allows it to depress it's height, allowing more flexibility for tactical airlifts as well as allowing it to lower it's profile in hostile environments.

most probably not- little real advantage over traditional torsion bar for relatively large expense, would be first to be cut when trying to make it cheaper.
even if its 2.5 m tall, its still way below 3.3m which is il-476 cargo bay height.

48 t that is less than expected, but with the change of chassis and turret that will change.