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[Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

Cyrus the great

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Post n°701

Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

Cyrus the great Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:05 pm

Mike E wrote:"Generation" is a bad way of describing thermals, IMO. US labels the CITV as a "2nd gen FLIR", when it would be comparable to 4th gen thermals. Catherine-XP is labeled 3rd gen, but isn't really comparable to other ones like the ATTICA-M.

That being said, the T-14's thermal is probably around a "3++" generation. I suspect a bandwidth of 3-5/8-12 microns, zoom of at least x20, above-HD resolution, and digital zoom of probably x2.

Thanks for the explanation. For an advanced tank like the T-14 Armata nothing short of a '3rd generation' thermal system will suffice.

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Mike E Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:08 pm

I don't doubt that can. One of the two Kazan thermals had rumored specifications that were second-to-none, and both should be ahead of the Catherines. The IBRIS-K and AGAT-MDT compare with those, I suspect the new ones to compete with the ATTICA-M-ER.

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Cyrus the great Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:20 pm

sepheronx wrote:If you learn to read, this was discussed earlier. Company in Russia who makes the matrices is called Orion. Schwab (UOMZ) makes the thermals and the matrices are made by Orion.

Sorry about that, mate I guess I just jumped in with something I thought was interesting without having read much of the relevant posts on the page that already addressed the matter. My reading is fine but I was admittedly being a bit of a skatterbrain. Embarassed

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Cyrus the great Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:26 pm

Mike E wrote:I don't doubt that can. One of the two Kazan thermals had rumored specifications that were second-to-none, and both should be ahead of the Catherines. The IBRIS-K and AGAT-MDT compare with those, I suspect the new ones to compete with the ATTICA-M-ER.

Excellent news. I know its not possible but I would love for Australia to purchase this tank in the future. Sadly Australia is too attached to the United States and our Prime Minister did say that he was going to 'shirtfront' Russia's President before withdrawing such undiplomatic language. cry

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sepheronx Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:26 pm

There was news and a photo report of (I believe) NPO Orion where they produced the thermal imaging matrix. Essentially, the development is in Russia and they make comoetitive products. Although, it is designed for Armata, my guess is it will be backwards compatible.

I am trying to find the article. It was on sdelanounas.ru and I think I posted it on mp.net prior to it closing.

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Post n°706

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max steel Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:06 pm

western media spindoctors on T-14 :

http://www.ibtimes.com/russias-new-t-14-armata-tank-breaks-down-during-victory-day-parade-rehearsal-moscow-1913336

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PapaDragon Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:10 pm

max steel wrote: western media spindoctors on T-14 :

http://www.ibtimes.com/russias-new-t-14-armata-tank-breaks-down-during-victory-day-parade-rehearsal-moscow-1913336

Well, we can all agree that western media spindoctors are welcome to self-copulate. love

In the meantime, picture of Armata interior...allegedly...maybe...no promises...

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Berkut Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:05 pm

Considering the layout seems very likely to be Armata indeed. Their doc is due to be out on 22'nd iirc. Btw, in case i have missed it; has there been any pictures of Armata in any other camo than the parade one?

In Kurganets doc Kurganets had really nice camo, hoping to see that on Armata.

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PapaDragon Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:59 pm

Berkut wrote:Considering the layout seems very likely to be Armata indeed. Their doc is due to be out on 22'nd iirc. Btw, in case i have missed it; has there been any pictures of Armata in any other camo than the parade one?

In Kurganets doc Kurganets had really nice camo, hoping to see that on Armata.

Yes, in fact on this very tread. Ask and you shall receive angel

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ult Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:02 pm

I think it's just a shadow from a tree and not a camouflage. Smile

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Post n°711

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zg18 Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:09 pm

PapaDragon wrote:In the meantime, picture of Armata interior...allegedly...maybe...no promises...

It is

http://sendvid.com/u30t7c5g

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PapaDragon Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:19 pm

zg18 wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:In the meantime, picture of Armata interior...allegedly...maybe...no promises...

It is

http://sendvid.com/u30t7c5g

OK, I saw a tank, IFV and a third vehicle. Could that be engineering vehicle?

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Post n°713

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Berkut Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:26 pm

I have seen that pic and that is just green PapaDragon. Thanks for the trailer link, best view of the engineering vehicle (T-16 iirc?) is at 0.23 and 0.24. No camoed Armata anywhere tho. Sad

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zg18 Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:49 pm

PapaDragon wrote:OK, I saw a tank, IFV and a third vehicle. Could that be engineering vehicle?

Yep

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This looks better and better every time. Smile

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Post n°715

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zg18 Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:52 pm

New Armata short clip from Zvezda:

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201509081350-ws0o.htm

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PapaDragon Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:19 pm

Russia’s Armata Tank to Sport Helicopter Fire Control System

http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150908/1026731256/kret-armata-electronics.html#ixzz3l9XjabJz

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KoTeMoRe Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:21 pm

Upvoted, will do it again.

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Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

magnumcromagnon Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:25 am

ARV-T-16 "Armata" Rescue vehicle - first images:

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