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magnumcromagnon wrote:What could of been:
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God she's ugly.
Is that the radar scope on top side opposite from the 30mm?
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[Official] Armata Discussion thread #3
Zivo- Posts : 1487
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God she's ugly.
Is that the radar scope on top side opposite from the 30mm?
magnumcromagnon- Posts : 8138
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Zivo wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:What could of been:
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God she's ugly.
Is that the radar scope on top side opposite from the 30mm?
Form follows function. Charred obliterated corpses of Wahhabi's aren't pretty either (or maybe they are)...
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Video of the T-15 BMP which has a crew of 3 and carries 9 dismounts as opposed to the normal 7 in the BMP / BTR series.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/L__FATum8GU?rel=0
https://www.youtube.com/embed/L__FATum8GU?rel=0
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"Uralvagonzavod" will deliver about 20 new T-14 "Armata"
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George1 wrote:"Uralvagonzavod" will deliver about 20 new T-14 "Armata"
The article has an interesting photo on the auto-loader.
Can anyone translate.
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It does not say anything about autoloader. It says Unmanned turret, 10-12 Rounds per minute, 32 ammunition in total, AESA, digital FCS, 7km max engagement range and optional 152mm gun.
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Werewolf wrote:It does not say anything about autoloader. It says Unmanned turret, 10-12 Rounds per minute, 32 ammunition in total, AESA, digital FCS, 7km max engagement range and optional 152mm gun.
"7km engagement range", i can already see the tears of those "Abrams is #1" crowed.
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AlfaT8 wrote:Werewolf wrote:It does not say anything about autoloader. It says Unmanned turret, 10-12 Rounds per minute, 32 ammunition in total, AESA, digital FCS, 7km max engagement range and optional 152mm gun.
"7km engagement range", i can already see the tears of those "Abrams is #1" crowed.
Leopard2A6M has higher engagement range than any other tank in service right now when you ignore GLATGM's, so Abramzs fanboys can jerk around as much as they want but Leopard 2A6M beats it in everyway.
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Werewolf wrote:AlfaT8 wrote:Werewolf wrote:It does not say anything about autoloader. It says Unmanned turret, 10-12 Rounds per minute, 32 ammunition in total, AESA, digital FCS, 7km max engagement range and optional 152mm gun.
"7km engagement range", i can already see the tears of those "Abrams is #1" crowed.
Leopard2A6M has higher engagement range than any other tank in service right now when you ignore GLATGM's, so Abramzs fanboys can jerk around as much as they want but Leopard 2A6M beats it in everyway.
German made tag is fcuking authentic . You can't beat them.
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I wouldn't take that info-graphic very seriously, it seems like they completely messed up the armour layout (from what we know).
If you want info/diagrams, try finding them on Paralay or through a Russian patent sight.
If you want info/diagrams, try finding them on Paralay or through a Russian patent sight.
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Lol...never trust any infographics even and especially if it is made by armor or tank developer about armor LOS, layout or its in/capabilities. That is by definition secret and noone would ever even point you in the right direction, just like NII Stali claim M829A2 can penetrate T-72B3 at 6km range vs Kontakt-5 or that 900mm LOS armor.
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It's not even 'just' that. From what I understand, the layout of the armour is completely different. Instead of being a thick slab that's heavily angled ala T-64 and up, the primary section is "internal" and not as angled. The outer section is additional armour.
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Werewolf wrote:AlfaT8 wrote:Werewolf wrote:It does not say anything about autoloader. It says Unmanned turret, 10-12 Rounds per minute, 32 ammunition in total, AESA, digital FCS, 7km max engagement range and optional 152mm gun.
"7km engagement range", i can already see the tears of those "Abrams is #1" crowed.
Leopard2A6M has higher engagement range than any other tank in service right now when you ignore GLATGM's, so Abramzs fanboys can jerk around as much as they want but Leopard 2A6M beats it in everyway.
Respect to the Germans, but as long as Abram-boys cry i'm good.
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http://topwar.ru/86503-uvz-u-pushki-t-14-armata-povyshennaya-prochnost-i-vysokaya-stepen-zhivuchesti.html
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"In a press-service of "Uralvagonzavod" reported that the developer 125mm gun for the T-14 "Armata" with the help of special technology has increased the durability of the gun. The technology consists in the deposition of polymetallic special protective coating on the bore. The news Agency TASS quotes the statement of the representative of the press service of defense enterprises:
On the tank "Armata" set created JSC "Plant number 9" 125-mm tank gun A-1M, high fire power, which required the application of new technologies and autorepair coated barrelto ensure the desired strength and survivability.
According to some, the use of special protective layer in the barrel has improved the precision produced by firing."
T-14 gets a self-repairing (?) barrel liner. Cool news
(Via Yandex)
"In a press-service of "Uralvagonzavod" reported that the developer 125mm gun for the T-14 "Armata" with the help of special technology has increased the durability of the gun. The technology consists in the deposition of polymetallic special protective coating on the bore. The news Agency TASS quotes the statement of the representative of the press service of defense enterprises:
On the tank "Armata" set created JSC "Plant number 9" 125-mm tank gun A-1M, high fire power, which required the application of new technologies and autorepair coated barrelto ensure the desired strength and survivability.
According to some, the use of special protective layer in the barrel has improved the precision produced by firing."
T-14 gets a self-repairing (?) barrel liner. Cool news
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Mike E wrote:http://topwar.ru/86503-uvz-u-pushki-t-14-armata-povyshennaya-prochnost-i-vysokaya-stepen-zhivuchesti.html
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T-14 gets a self-repairing (?) barrel liner. Cool news
You means the word "автоскрепления" ?
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max steel wrote: German made tag is fcuking authentic . You can't beat them.
Of course it is ! Germans made their Armata already 30years ago that´s ewhy now with French need extra 15 years to make a copy!
and VW has low CO2 emission as well
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franco wrote:Video of the T-15 BMP which has a crew of 3 and carries 9 dismounts as opposed to the normal 7 in the BMP / BTR series.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/L__FATum8GU?rel=0
Barbaris? Wat?
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GunshipDemocracy wrote:max steel wrote: German made tag is fcuking authentic . You can't beat them.
Of course it is ! Germans made their Armata already 30years ago that´s ewhy now with French need extra 15 years to make a copy!
and VW has low CO2 emission as well
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George1 wrote:"Uralvagonzavod" will deliver about 20 new T-14 "Armata"
Didn't armata t-14 was supposed to enter trials in 2016 and enter service in 2018 if all was working?
That article suggest 20 new T-14 were made and will be delivered for Russian army use..
i Am missing something? Does armata tank T-14 will enter in service now in 2015?
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Everything is going according to the original time schedule. The 20 T-14's are not new units, most of them are probably from the parade. UVZ is handing them to the army, who will trial them next year.Vann7 wrote:
Didn't armata t-14 was supposed to enter trials in 2016 and enter service in 2018 if all was working?
That article suggest 20 new T-14 were made and will be delivered for Russian army use..
i Am missing something? Does armata tank T-14 will enter in service now in 2015?
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The hull is more or less finished the only thing those armatas are for is trails by army. The unfinished part are the turrets and modules which we will see in 2 years.
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Werewolf wrote:The hull is more or less finished the only thing those armatas are for is trails by army. The unfinished part are the turrets and modules which we will see in 2 years.
oh so its official that the turret we saw in Victory parade of T-14 was just a preview ,and not the finished turret? the one in armata looked like just the skull without the armor.
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Vann7 wrote:
oh so its official that the turret we saw in Victory parade of T-14 was just a preview ,and not the finished turret? the one in armata looked like just the skull without the armor.
We shall see in a few years.
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The turret core shouldn't see any changes, it is the exterior shell and systems that would.
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I would expect multiple changes and updates to the turrets of the Armata over time... it is supposed to be both modular and upgradable.
I suspect the first change to the core of the MBT turret would be an increased calibre main gun and future changes to allow add on weapons packages like perhaps a bustle mounted cannon RWS or grenade launcher... perhaps even a rear bustle mounted vertical launch array of Morfei lock on after launch short range SAMs.
Various systems will change over time with upgrades and improvements like Shtora, ARENA, Nakidka, etc etc... some will require new turret structures etc.
I am looking forward to seeing a full armata division with all the different vehicle family types operating together...
I suspect they will find with practise that some types make other ideas redundant... for instance a BMPT is really just a tank based IFV with more ammo replacing the troop transport component...
On the other hand of course a dedicated BMPT vehicle might still be useful as an escort vehicle or in conflicts where the enemy has little or no armour so a MBT is not needed but a fire power vehicle would be useful.
I suspect the first change to the core of the MBT turret would be an increased calibre main gun and future changes to allow add on weapons packages like perhaps a bustle mounted cannon RWS or grenade launcher... perhaps even a rear bustle mounted vertical launch array of Morfei lock on after launch short range SAMs.
Various systems will change over time with upgrades and improvements like Shtora, ARENA, Nakidka, etc etc... some will require new turret structures etc.
I am looking forward to seeing a full armata division with all the different vehicle family types operating together...
I suspect they will find with practise that some types make other ideas redundant... for instance a BMPT is really just a tank based IFV with more ammo replacing the troop transport component...
On the other hand of course a dedicated BMPT vehicle might still be useful as an escort vehicle or in conflicts where the enemy has little or no armour so a MBT is not needed but a fire power vehicle would be useful.