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    Post  milky_candy_sugar Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:37 pm

    MOSCOW, April 27 (RIA Novosti) - Admiralty Shipyards in St. Petersburg will build six Kilo class diesel-electric submarines for delivery to Vietnam, the Russian business daily Kommersant said on Monday.
    The paper quoted company general director Vladimir Aleksandrov as saying that Russia's state arms exporter Rosoboronexport would soon sign a contract with a foreign state, and that Admiralty Shipyards had been chosen to fulfill this contract.
    Sources in Rosoboronexport later confirmed that Russia and Vietnam had been negotiating a $1.8 billion deal on the delivery of six Kilo-class submarines to the Vietnamese navy for about a year.
    Admiralty Shipyards is currently building two Kilo class submarines for Algeria to be delivered in 2009 and 2010.
    Kilo class submarines, nicknamed "Black Holes" for their ability to avoid detection, are considered to be among the quietest diesel-electric submarines in the world.
    The submarine is designed for anti-submarine warfare and anti-surface-ship warfare, and also for general reconnaissance and patrol missions.
    The vessel has a displacement of 2,300 tons, a maximum depth of 350 meters (1,200 feet), a range of 6,000 miles, and a crew of 57. It is equipped with six 533-mm torpedo tubes.
    As of November 2006, 16 vessels were believed to be in active service with the Russian Navy and eight submarines were thought to be in reserve. Another 29 vessels have been exported to China, India, Iran, Poland, Romania and Algeria.


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    Post  Admin Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:51 pm

    Wow, six... that should keep the Admiralty going for awhile. We hadn't had a solid sub order in so long, I was wondering if it was going to happen.
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    Post  milky_candy_sugar Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:54 pm

    Yaah Vietnamese navy intends to send 3 of them to patrol in the Truong Sa's island area
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    Post  Admin Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:02 pm

    Maybe you send them to sink PLAN who illegally annexes Vietnam islands?
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    Post  milky_candy_sugar Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:06 pm

    To be honest it will be quite of a challengeing task indeed....Chinese got their most technologically advanced weapons in the area surrouding the annexed Spratly Islands
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    Post  Viktor Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:23 pm

    Vietnam also got Bastion-P ... armed with Yakhont missiles

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    Rosoboronexport signed a contract with the Ministry of Defense of Vietnam to supply 12 fighter jets Su-30MK2, writes in the May 14 issue of the newspaper Vedomosti, clarifying that the agreement was signed by the parties in January.

    As the publication of the sources familiar with the details of the deal, Russia will begin to supply fighter jets in Vietnam in 2010. However, as noted, the contract entered into only for themselves and the aircraft does not include weapons. The contract value is estimated by experts in the newspaper half a billion dollars, plus another several hundred million in additional purchases of missiles and ground equipment.

    Official confirmation of this information has yet been received, note the "Vedomosti". Rosoboronexport representative abstained from comment.

    It is estimated the International Institute for Strategic Studies, which is referred to "Vedomosti", armed with the Air Force in Viet Nam are 140 MiG-21 bis, 53 fighter-bomber Su-22M3/M4 (even by the Soviet Union), and 12 Su-27SK fighters / UBC and the four cars Su-30MKK acquired the Vietnamese military is already in Russia.

    Su-30MK2 is a double multipurpose fighter aircraft and is part of the line "modified commercial" fighter OKB "dry" 27-th family. It is designed to gain dominance in the air, destruction of surface and ground targets, as well as to conduct exploration on land and maritime theaters of operation and training of flight crews.

    It should be noted that in April, became aware of the negotiations between Russia and Vietnam on the procurement for the needs of the Vietnamese Navy six Project 636 submarines.Reported that in the near future "Rosoboronexport" will sign a contract, an amount which is estimated at 1.8 billion dollars.

    It also has S-300 system ... I think South China sea is a future TNT canister ...
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    Post  Russian Patriot Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:53 pm

    Russia floats out second Gepard class frigate for Vietnam

    RIA Novosti

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    KAZAN, March 16 (RIA Novosti) - Shipbuilders in Russia's republic of Tatarstan floated out a second frigate for the Vietnamese Navy on Tuesday, a spokesman for the Zelenodolsk shipyard said.

    Russia and Vietnam signed a contract on the construction of two Gepard 3.9 class frigates for the Vietnamese Navy in 2006. The first frigate was floated out in December 2009.

    "A second Gepard 3.9 class frigate for the Vietnamese Navy was floated out on Tuesday. The first frigate will be delivered to Vietnam in October and the second by the end of this year," the spokesman said.

    Both ships will undergo sea trials in the Baltic Sea.

    Project 1166.1 Gepard 3.9 class frigate is designed to engage surface ships, submarines and air targets, both independently and as part of a task force, as well as to perform escort and patrol tasks.

    The ship has a displacement of 2,000 tons, a length of 102 meters, a maximum speed of 23 knots, a crew of 103 personnel and a cruising range of 5,000 miles.

    The frigate is armed with an Uran-E anti-ship missile system, a 76.2-mm gun mount AK-176M, a Palma air defense artillery system, two 30-mm gun mounts AK-630M and 533-mm torpedo tubes. It can carry a Ka-28 or a Ka-31 Helix naval helicopter.

    Together with the country's recently ordered six Kilo class submarines and Su-30MK2 naval fighter-bombers, the Gepard deal is seen as part of Vietnam's current navy modernization drive.

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    Vietnam People's Navy: Empty Shields and Arrows

    Post  Sonny Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:31 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:Maybe you send them to sink PLAN who illegally annexes Vietnam islands?
    Who knows there are any differences in Kilo class submarines which Russia sold to Vietnam and China ? Who will be received Shields or Arrows from Russia ? God knows that ...The problem is that China is a super copycat. So if in wars, the tactic "take your enemy's weapons and fight them back" was used, it also is used today. But wise and magnanimous Russia knows which element in the whole system is needed to supply to their unfriendly guys. That way we used to call "a systematic error", and this time the answer is Russia knows that. Very Happy Very Happy
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    Post  GarryB Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:35 am

    I think Russia will sell to China... as long as they buy in large enough volume to cover the likely cost resulting from copy the Chinese will make.
    Selling to Vietnam however seems to me to be something different for Russia, as Vietnam is more of a friend than just a customer with money.
    Hopefully the money Russia makes from this deal will help with development of the Lada class which will replace the Kilo type... and that in at least some of the Kilos sold to Vietnam the benefits of improvements in technology will be reflected.
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    Post  Pervius Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:07 pm

    There was a news story Germany was going to decommission early almost all of their subs. I thought they were going to be sold to Vietnam but with the Russia-Vietnam sub deal.....maybe those German subs are going to Taiwan?

    I don't see Vietnam fighting China. I think a deal will be struck to bound together to fight a common threat soon. Either that or eventually Vietnam and China will be toppled separately by that threat.
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    Post  milky_candy_sugar Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:56 pm

    Well you say there will be no fighting between China and Vietnam
    2 days ago some of their boats tried to mess up with ours and some offshore petrol platforms :/

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    TT - Lieutenant General Nguyen Chi Vinh: The parties must absolutely not use violence * Web site translation and interpretation center and the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Vietnam was a cyber attack.

    >> On 9-6, Vietnam's boats cables were cut by China
    >> More than 1,500 Vietnamese websites were attacked
    >> China has officially confirmed the existance of an aircraft carrier in Vietnamese naval territory

    At a press conference of the Foreign Ministry 9-6 pm, after notification of the event Chinese ship tried to disturb the cables of the ship Soldier 02 in Vietnam, Nguyen Phuong Nga - a spokesman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Vietnam - answered questions from the press at home and abroad.


    Source Petrotimes.vn

    * Lately chinese fishing and military vessels had purposely cutted cables from vietnamese boats and the chinese representants made comments about repeating such events in the future. So please provide Vietnam will take measures like?
    - Vietnam's stance on the two events, the Naval chief of China's exploration vessel to cut cables Binh Minh 02 and the event this morning (9-6) for ship Viking 2 was very clearly announced

    Vietnam hopes that China will immediately stop and not repeat any action to violate the sovereignty and national jurisdiction of Vietnam's continental shelf local and exclusive economic zones of Vietnam.

    We hope China will implement the commitments that China has stated on the international forum is to maintain peace and stability in the East Sea.

    Regarding Vietnam, the authorities of Vietnam, Vietnam's forces will closely coordinate to ensure the economic activities of Vietnam in the areas under the sovereignty, sovereign rights and property rights Vietnam's negotiations proceed normally.

    * Lt. Gen. Nguyen Chi Vinh, Deputy Minister of Defense, has told the press after the incident, the ship Dawn 26-5 will be escorted by 8 other ships. Please specify whether or not the ship Soldier 02 will be beneficent from such measures
    - Two second places and events (involving 02 ships and ship Soldier 2 - PV) is completely different in the continental shelf of Vietnam.

    As Lt. Gen. Nguyen Chi Vinh said that the surveying mission of ship Dawn 2 will be ensured with the protection of 8 other ships

    In the case of two Soldier ships, the ship is also some support for such tasks.

    * It is known that two Viking ships involved in many countries, existing stakeholders may respond?
    - The event took place recently, so now we do not have information about the reaction of the countries involved in this incident.

    * Naval Operations Director of China and the Chinese fishing vessel responsible agency in China?
    - There are lots of Chinese forces on the sea. We raised Vietnam's stance to the Chinese Embassy in Hanoi, is the representative of China in Vietnam. Chinese Embassy in Hanoi will reflect the stance of Vietnam. But solving the problem is how the Chinese side.

    * Please indicate the specific issues of bilateral negotiations and multilateral areas related to the East Sea?
    - First Vietnam advocates settling disputes in the South China Sea by peaceful means on the basis of the UN Charter and international law, especially the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea in 1982 and Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea has been signed between ASEAN and China in 2002, through bilateral and multilateral to maintain peace and stability in the South China Sea, on the basis of respect for law international law and the legitimate interests of stakeholders.

    In the East Sea issue have many kinds of problems. For matters related only to the two countries could resolve the bilateral water directly, in cases such as between Vietnam and China are bilateral issues is the problem of North Bay or is the problem of the Paracel Islands.

    For problems involving many parties and many other countries such as the Spratly Islands issue is resolved between the parties concerned. For issues not only related to the East coast, but also related to both the countries outside the region such as security, maritime safety must be addressed with the participation of stakeholders .

    * There are reports of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website with hacker attack?
    - According to information I have, in a few days ago some of Vietnam's Web site has been hacker attacks. Website translation and interpretation center under the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Vietnam are also hacker attacks and leave the website that some information in Chinese, with pictures and Chinese flags.

    Website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Vietnam yesterday afternoon was a form of hacker attack denial of service, access to work sites is difficult.

    Network security agencies of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Vietnam as well as network security agencies of Vietnam has been the application of preventive measures to ensure security and safety for the website of Vietnam. Current site of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Vietnam still function normally.


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    Post  Pervius Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:45 pm

    So you are saying the Chinese Aircraft Carrier Shi Lang was just used in a military action?


    Are there pictures of it?????


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    Post  George1 Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:02 pm

    "Admiralty Shipyards" laid the 5th diesel-electric submarine of Project 636 "Varshavyanka» HQ-186 Khánh Hòa (serial number 01343) for the Vietnamese Navy.


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    Post  George1 Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:25 am

    Russia Floats Out Fourth Stealth Submarine for Vietnamese Navy

    SAINT PETERSBURG, March 28 (RIA Novosti) - The fourth Russian Varshavyanka-class submarine for delivery to the Vietnamese navy has been launched in a ceremony at the shipyard where it was built, St. Petersburg city officials said Friday.

    Vietnam signed a contract in 2009 to buy six of the diesel-electric submarines - dubbed "black holes in the ocean" by US navy officials for their near invisibility - in a deal reportedly worth $2 billion.

    Analysts saw the purchase as a move to counterbalance China's expanding maritime influence in the region.

    Two of the submarines have already been delivered to Vietnam, with the third currently undergoing sea trials and another now under construction at St. Petersburg's Admiralty Shipyards.

    The Varshavyanka class (Project 636) is an upgrade to the Kilo class, featuring advanced stealth technology, extended combat range and the ability to strike land, surface and underwater targets.

    The boats, which can be armed with torpedoes, mines, and Kalibr 3M54 cruise missiles, are mainly intended for anti-shipping and anti-submarine missions in the relatively shallow waters of littoral zones.

    The submarines have a displacement of 3,100 tons, can reach speeds of some 20 knots, dive to 300 meters and are manned by 52 crew members.
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    Post  George1 Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:28 pm

    "Admiralty Shipyards" transferred to Vietnamese Navy the third of six ordered diesel-electric submarines of Project 636.1
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    Post  George1 Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:19 am

    5th Kilo submarine launched for Vietnam
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    Post  George1 Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:51 am

    2 more Gepard-3.9 modified (11661E) frigates laid for Vietnam.
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    Post  George1 Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:25 pm

    Vietnam receives patrol ships from Japan
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    Post  George1 Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:36 pm

    Vietnam Buys Deadly New Missiles Capable of Hitting China

    Hanoi is the first Southeast Asian nation arming its submarines with land attack cruise missiles.

    Vietnam is in the process of acquiring 50 anti-ship and land attack 3M-14E Klub supersonic cruise missiles for its burgeoning fleet of SSK Kilo-class diesel-electric submarines, Der Spiegel Online reports.

    According to the article, the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) recently updated data on its website, based on information obtained from the United Nations’ register of conventional arms, indicating that Russia has already delivered 28 missiles over the last two years to Hanoi, although the precise number remains unknown.

    The Klub is a Russian-made conventional supersonic cruise missile, “designed to destroy targets protected by sophisticated active air defenses and countermeasures,” deagel.com explains. It is an export variant of Russia’s “carrier killer” 3M-54 (NATO designation: SS-N-27A “Sizzler”) and capable of long-range precision strikes.

    While it is unknown whether the anti-ship variant of the weapon sold to Vietnam is the 3M-54E Klub-S (range 220km) or 3M-54E1 (range 300km) – both of which can be launched from submarines – the land-attack variant is almost certainly the 3M-14E (range 300km), capable of carrying a 450kg warhead.

    The purchase of land attack cruise missiles mark a “massive shift” beyond advancing the Vietnamese’s Navy’s anti-ship capabilities, according to naval analyst Carl Thayer quoted by Reuters. “They’ve given themselves a much more powerful deterrent that complicates China’s strategic calculations,” he added.

    Principal targets for the new missile could be the Chinese naval base at Sanya on China’s Hainan Island and military facilities (e.g., ports and airfields) that China is building in the potentially oil-rich South China Sea (see: “South China Sea: China’s Unprecedented Spratlys Building Program”).

    The launch platforms for Vietnam’s new weapons will be six 4,000-ton Type 636 Kilo-class diesel-electric submarines – labelled “black holes” by the U.S. Navy due to their quietness, according to UNSI News.

    The website naval-technology.com notes about the Type 636 Kilo-class:

    Type 636 is designed for anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and anti-surface-ship warfare (ASuW) and also for general reconnaissance and patrol missions. The Type 636 submarine is considered to be to be one of the quietest diesel submarines in the world. It is said to be capable of detecting an enemy submarine at a range three to four times greater than it can be detected itself.

    The Vietnamese Navy has already commissioned two Kilo-class vessels – the HQ-182 Hanoi and HQ-183 Ho Chi Minh City – in 2014, while it received the third sub, the HQ-184 Haiphong, in February of this year.

    Reuters states that the fourth Kilo-class vessel is already in transit to Vietnam, with a fifth undergoing seal-trials in St. Petersburg and the sixth and last to be completed and delivered in 2016. Hanoi and Moscow signed a $ 2.6 billion contract for the modernization of Vietnam’s submarine fleet back in 2009.

    Once the last vessel is commissioned, Vietnam will have the most modern submarine force in all of Southeast Asia. Its principal purpose will be to act as a credible deterrent force to Chinese “adventurism” in Vietnam’s maritime domain.

    However, as Carl Thayer noted in The Diplomat (see: “Can Vietnam’s Maritime Strategy Counter China?”) it remains to be seen whether Vietnam can develop new doctrines and tactics to use its new weapon platforms, and how quickly the Vietnamese Navy can integrate its new fleet of submarines into the country’s overall counter-intervention strategy vis-à-vis Beijing.

    “The views of defense analysts range from skeptical to cautiously optimistic about Vietnam’s ability to develop an effective counter-intervention strategy to deter China in Vietnam’s maritime domain,” Thayer summarizes.

    He concludes:

    The purpose of Vietnam’s counter-intervention strategy is intended to deter China from deploying PLAN warships at the lower end of the conflict spectrum, such as assisting civilian law enforcement agency vessels operating in Vietnamese waters or blockading Vietnamese-held islands and features in the South China Sea.

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    Vietnam has put into operation two more missile boats of project 12418

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    Vietnam commissions two Kilo-class submarines
    Published on Aug 2, 2015

    Vietnam on Saturday held a commissioning ceremony for two more Kilo-class submarines at central Cam Ranh port, some 1,300 km south of capital Hanoi. A Vietnamese commander says these submarines will mark a new development of the navy and the Vietnam People's Army. The two newly-received submarines, named after two Vietnamese coastal cities, are out of six 636 Kilo-class submarines that Vietnam ordered from Russia.

    The 636 Kilo-class submarines have an over 3,000-ton displacement, and are able to operate at a maximum depth of 300 meters and at a speed of 20 nautical miles per hour with over 50 crew members. They are said to be equipped with six 533 mm torpedo tubes, torpedoes and 3M-54 Klub submarine-launched anti-ship missiles on board.

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    Russia Ready to Equip Frigates for Vietnam With Club-Class Missiles
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    "A shipbuilding firm under the management of the Ministry of Defense organized a ceremony on Monday to launch a brand new coast guard vessel in central Vietnam. Coast guard vessel 8005, which is the second multi-purpose ship of the DN2000 line built by Song Thu Corporation, meets all the international standards and is made based on a design by Dutch engineers. The DN 2000 line is currently the country’s most versatile and advanced coast guard vessel, the shipbuilding corporation said at the ceremony in Da Nang City.

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    The ship, which has a displacement of up to 2,400 metric tons, can operate in the open sea for 40 consecutive days within a range of 5,000 nautical miles and survive gusts blowing at 118-133km per hour. The vessel will be assigned to the Vietnam Coast Guard to conduct sea patrols, search and rescue missions and transport personnel and support for defense forces on Vietnamese islands, according to coast guard officials. Vessel 8005 was put into the water by Song Thu and the Vietnam Coast Guard six months ahead of schedule, which was originally set for early April 2016."


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    Post  George1 Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:52 pm

    5th Kilo class submarine "Danang" (project 636.1) for the Vietnamese Navy will travel from St. Petersburg to the port of Cam Ranh.

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    Kilo class submarines of Vietnamese Navy in Cam Ranh

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