Russian Liberal Opposition

When are the Russians going to realise that being nice to prevent blow back from western media is a total waste of time... no matter what they do it will be wrong, so they might as well do their jobs and deal with illegal protests the way all police forces deal with illegal activity.

Perhaps a stiff fine for protesting at an illegal rally... and suggest that the instigators might want to pay the fines of the pleebs they get to protest... that would be funny when they refuse because they get money from the west but doing this would mean they wont get to keep so much of it for themselves.

It would also be a useful way of moving money going towards unrest in the country into the hands of those enforcing law and order for a change... those funds could be directed to local charities that could use better funding.

It is dangerous to keep fines because it becomes a new source of income that becomes addictive to government agencies and dangerous to the general public.

GarryB wrote:When are the Russians going to realise that being nice to prevent blow back from western media is a total waste of time... no matter what they do it will be wrong, so they might as well do their jobs and deal with illegal protests the way all police forces deal with illegal activity.

Perhaps a stiff fine for protesting at an illegal rally... and suggest that the instigators might want to pay the fines of the pleebs they get to protest... that would be funny when they refuse because they get money from the west but doing this would mean they wont get to keep so much of it for themselves.

It would also be a useful way of moving money going towards unrest in the country into the hands of those enforcing law and order for a change... those funds could be directed to local charities that could use better funding.

It is dangerous to keep fines because it becomes a new source of income that becomes addictive to government agencies and dangerous to the general public.

Fines are some western invention that work for certain cases but are the wrong approach to others. Since all these protests revolve
around money, the best punishment is prison time. Every clown who breaks the law gets to spend 30 days in jail. For every repeat
offense they get to spend twice the jail time. That will add up real fast and real painful. And NATO will not be able to sneak the
perps money to pay off fines.

An example of the absurdity with fines was the shit pile known as "Pussy Riot". They kept geting $17 (yes, that small) fines over and over.
For some bizarre reason the fines did not keep getting bigger. How can such waste of scarce court resources be justified? They did
face jail time eventually, but that was some sort of special initiative. It should have been automatic.

Pro-liberal demonstration of the Moscow middle class (and some other cities to a lesser extent). I don't even know what their program is. Maybe they don't have one, maybe they're too afraid of voicing it because they don't want to inevitably alienate the majority of the Russian population outright, and want as many people as possible to join these rallies.

Our government doesn't have any big ideas other than how to tighten screws, and this radicalizes people. But that's no reason to participate in any sort of demonstration organized by the liberal opposition. All they know how to do is perform tricks in front of the cameras and whine in English on Facebook to their international friends. They had their chance in the 90s, set the country back decades. Fuck em.

kvs wrote:

GarryB wrote:When are the Russians going to realise that being nice to prevent blow back from western media is a total waste of time... no matter what they do it will be wrong, so they might as well do their jobs and deal with illegal protests the way all police forces deal with illegal activity.

Perhaps a stiff fine for protesting at an illegal rally... and suggest that the instigators might want to pay the fines of the pleebs they get to protest... that would be funny when they refuse because they get money from the west but doing this would mean they wont get to keep so much of it for themselves.

It would also be a useful way of moving money going towards unrest in the country into the hands of those enforcing law and order for a change... those funds could be directed to local charities that could use better funding.

It is dangerous to keep fines because it becomes a new source of income that becomes addictive to government agencies and dangerous to the general public.

Fines are some western invention that work for certain cases but are the wrong approach to others.   Since all these protests revolve
around money, the best punishment is prison time.   Every clown who breaks the law gets to spend 30 days in jail.  For every repeat
offense they get to spend twice the jail time.   That will add up real fast and real painful.   And NATO will not be able to sneak the
perps money to pay off fines.  

An example of the absurdity with fines was the shit pile known as "Pussy Riot".   They kept geting $17 (yes, that small) fines over and over.
For some bizarre reason the fines did not keep getting bigger.   How can such waste of scarce court resources be justified?   They did
face jail time eventually, but that was some sort of special initiative.   It should have been automatic.

Well Russia could go all USA and raise criminal court fines for disruptions like these to astronomical levels. Basically, fine 300,000 usd for disruptions of Moscow traffic. I'm pretty sure it cost more than that for normal people. Then fine 40-50 people with such fines, put them into financial pit. NGOs will run out of money to pay such amounts and dept collectors will be the ones chasing their arses. Much worse than police.

This how it works in west and it would make people think twice before going to protest. As this will destroy their future. Even moving abroad you won't escape if your dept will be sold off to western company. This is much more better solution than jail them for 30 days.

There is a nest of liberast 5th columnists in the Urals that routinely fly to the Baltics for special training on how to agitate
the population and undermine the legitimate authorities. Note how these maggots are on the government payroll and are
brazen in their anti-Russian activity. For all their yapping about human rights abuse for some mysterious reason they
clearly are not feeling any such abuse on their hides. BTW, the "Memorial" NGO is an organizer of these 5th columnists
while pretending to be some sort of historical fact preservation society concerned with abuses during the USSR period.
Russia has declared Memorial to be a hostile "NGO" but Memorial is still operating in an undercover fashion and arranges
for these offshore indoctrination sessions for liberasts.

The latest protests in Russia which were a massive failure were being agitated by all sorts of paid bloggers whose task
is to piss on Russia over any pretext and totally disregarding the facts. These bloggers are NATO regime change operation.
While the NATO MSM spews BS about Russian election meddling via some clickbait ads that private companies likely
associated with the liberast 5th column organized, NATO is actually funding and organizing sedition in Russia.

Talking about 5th columnists gathering in Baltics- I've decided to see what the hell they are up to over there.
All they do is practice various forms of shitting on Russia yet offering no solution apart REMOVE PUTLER and everything will be peachy.

They are completely devoid of any intellectual force, not that Putins government is geniuses, but they are two heads above them.

What I find the most interesting that they don't allow any wrong-think. Forget about Putin, they love to cannibalise their own, thinking anything good about Russia there is not allowed.
Even among them were people who didn't blindly shit on Russia and want it's destruction - like Oleg Kashin. A sickening liberal to the core. To liberal shock he suggested that multiple nations should take the blame for Soviet crimes and that Crimea can't be returned to Ukraine. He also recently said that Russians who leak information about Salibury suspects are doing damage to Russia and it's people. Now for 5th columnists - he is now person non grata for having his own opinion. Medusa and other liberal media tries to destroy him by pulling his tweets and opinions.

As long as so called opposition follows same line of thinking that is generally, revolting for majority of Russians, they will never have popular support. They will never form a solid core. Western NGOs are at fault for making Russian opposition stupid ans useless as like always - western agencies oversimply Russia. And for current gov it's very good to have less people like Kashin and more clowns like Pussy Riot - makes any discussion impossible.

NATO is actually funding and organizing sedition in Russia.

But why is Russia taking all the punches? What is the government waiting for? They need to send in the National guard and jail these traitors for life. But such necessary action doesn't seem to be happening and the state doesn't seem interested. Also why does it have to take an independent organization like Polit Russia to unmask these kinds of activities? the FSB and other intelligence agencies should be the first to know and TAKE action against these NATO sabotage operations.

PhSt wrote:

NATO is actually funding and organizing sedition in Russia.

But why is Russia taking all the punches? What is the government waiting for? They need to send in the National guard and jail these traitors for life. But such necessary action doesn't seem to be happening and the state doesn't seem interested. Also why does it have to take an independent organization like Polit Russia to unmask these kinds of activities? the FSB and other intelligence agencies should be the first to know and TAKE action against these NATO sabotage operations.

You don't kill a fly with a machinegun.
Leave jails for spies and corrupt politicians.
So far Russian government doesn't see them as credible threat and all they can do is to hinder their activities so they would cause less chaos. Now I would hit them with fines that no one ever seen in Russian history myself, but liberal laws are for liberals. You can get into more trouble from stealing a chicken from a farmer than blocking one of the rings in Moscow for an hour causing delays, dangerous situations on the roads and blocking emergency services access.

There is a fine in Russia for blocking ambulance and if someone dies because of that, there is jail time.

The class action lawsuits should be nice touch against liberals.

Revisionist anti-Russian "history" organized from Ukr and other fictional "sources" being peddled by a Russian millenial living abroad.
Millenials are utter trash. This bimbo does not know what history is. And I bet she can't even do rudimentary mathematics.
Rigorous logical, objective thinking would not allow such BS.

Revisionist anti-Russian "history" organized from Ukr and other fictional "sources" being peddled by a Russian millenial living abroad.
Millenials are utter trash. This bimbo does not know what history is. And I bet she can't even do rudimentary mathematics.
Rigorous logical, objective thinking would not allow such BS.

We shouldn’t dismiss the possibility of NATO agents hiring her and other similar whores to disseminate anti-Russian propaganda. These kinds of propaganda has been going on since the cold war and we can only expect it to intensify in the years to come, the only solution to make this stop is to break NATO apart. This is the only way I see how Russia can survive. It’s either Russia destroys NATO or NATO destroys Russia.

PhSt wrote:

Revisionist anti-Russian "history" organized from Ukr and other fictional "sources" being peddled by a Russian millenial living abroad.
Millenials are utter trash. This bimbo does not know what history is. And I bet she can't even do rudimentary mathematics.
Rigorous logical, objective thinking would not allow such BS.

We shouldn’t dismiss the possibility of NATO agents hiring her and other similar whores to disseminate anti-Russian propaganda. These kinds of propaganda has been going on since the cold war and we can only expect it to intensify in the years to come, the only solution to make this stop is to break NATO apart. This is the only way I see how Russia can survive. It’s either Russia destroys NATO or NATO destroys Russia.

I think it is obvious she is on the NATO payroll. She does not appear to have a job (maybe she is a whore) and so the question
arises where does she get the money to feed and house herself. Her youtube ad revenue is not going to feed her lifestyle.

She is definitely on of thousands being funded by NATO. The propaganda trick being used is to create a sea of "independent"
voices that then drag the proles in the direction their paymasters want. In Russian the term is "govorilnya". The same
chattering horde effect is used to herd the sheeple in the west as well.

In that video, are they talking about the girl screaming on the PC or is it the woman sitting there talking?

Anyway, what is PolitRussia?

Regular wrote:Talking about 5th columnists gathering in Baltics- I've decided to see what the hell they are up to over there.
All they do is practice various forms of shitting on Russia yet offering no solution apart REMOVE PUTLER and everything will be peachy.

They are completely devoid of any intellectual force, not that Putins government is geniuses, but they are two heads above them.

What I find the most interesting that they don't allow any wrong-think. Forget about Putin, they love to cannibalise their own, thinking anything good about Russia there is not allowed.
Even among them were people who didn't blindly shit on Russia and want it's destruction - like Oleg Kashin. A sickening liberal to the core. To liberal shock he suggested that multiple nations should take the blame for Soviet crimes and that Crimea can't be returned to Ukraine. He also recently said that Russians who leak information about Salibury suspects are doing damage to Russia and it's people. Now for 5th columnists - he is now person non grata for having his own opinion. Medusa and other liberal media tries to destroy him by pulling his tweets and opinions.

As long as so called opposition follows same line of thinking that is generally, revolting for majority of Russians, they will never have popular support. They will never form a solid core. Western NGOs are at fault for making Russian opposition stupid ans useless as like always - western agencies oversimply Russia. And for current gov it's very good to have less people like Kashin and more clowns like Pussy Riot - makes any discussion impossible.

This is why they they allow these NATO funded 5th columnists to state their diatribe openly - because it just makes them look and sound stupid and average Russian doesn't fall for it. Russian authorities are doing the right thing though, they are going after the heads of the snake - the funding and funneling of money groups within the country. Going after Navalny is pointless. Going after their ilk is pointless. Going after the people who fund them and stirring trouble by behind the scenes? That is the right decision.

And of course, these liberals are being sued anyway by the Transit authority and locals.

miketheterrible wrote:In that video, are they talking about the girl screaming on the PC or is it the woman sitting there talking?

The girl in question is not the narrator. It's the lunatic screamer who has now stopped screaming and spews Ukr and NATO propaganda
against Russia. She may as well be still be screaming.

Anyway, what is PolitRussia?

The messenger. They do a good job exposing the 5th column and western BS. They also attack local corruption. In other words,
real media.

Thanks!

All the noise about the liberast fringe not getting to field candidates to levels it wanted. Western MSM are bleating and bleating hard.
But when brazen manipulation happens in Germany all you hear are crickets. The most popular party in Saxony is not even allowed
to field half the candidates it legally can.

One rule for us, and another for you, is what NATO is all about.

Smear and defamation campaign run by Navalny and associates (with Khodorkovsky and the State Department in the background)
against Unite Russia and other "pro-Putin" party candidates. All sorts of fiction and blood libel attempts based on internet rumours
and plain old fabrication. This is a full bore attack on Russia's democracy by paid NATO agents from inside Russia. Compare to
the ludicrous nothing claimed as "election meddling by Russia" by the NATO fake stream media.

kvs wrote:

Smear and defamation campaign run by Navalny and associates (with Khodorkovsky and the State Department in the background)
against Unite Russia and other "pro-Putin" party candidates.    All sorts of fiction and blood libel attempts based on internet rumours
and plain old fabrication.   This is a full bore attack on Russia's democracy by paid NATO agents from inside Russia.   Compare to
the ludicrous nothing claimed as "election meddling by Russia" by the NATO fake stream media.

Yet no one believes them and their popularity is so damn low, it's pathetic.

I wouldn't worry.

https://rusvesna.su/news/1567496890

Scumbag blogger who called for the kidnap, rape and murder of the children and wives of the police officers imposing the law on 5th column
"demonstrators" (for whom legal protest routes are not good enough) has been sentenced to 5 years in jail. That is a good start.

1) They should send such clowns away for 10 years minimum. Summary execution would be better but one can only dream.

2) They better not give this clown probation and make him serve his full term in an actual jail and not country club.

All such clowns generating a hate echo chamber in social media should be arrested and tried.

kvs wrote:https://rusvesna.su/news/1567496890

Scumbag blogger who called for the kidnap, rape and murder of the children and wives of the police officers imposing the law on 5th column
"demonstrators" (for whom legal protest routes are not good enough) has been sentenced to 5 years in jail.  That is a good start.

1) They should send such clowns away for 10 years minimum.  Summary execution would be better but one can only dream.

2) They better not give this clown probation and make him serve his full term in an actual jail and not country club.

All such clowns generating a hate echo chamber in social media should be arrested and tried.  

Holiday in Siberia for a few years, without electricity is better

The liberast 5th column chorus is defending the blogger who called for the murder of the wives and children of police officers
for doing their jobs and rounding up brazen law breakers (without causing them to lose eyes and fingers like in France).

But these maggots conveniently forget that calling for mass murder is a crime itself and Nuremburg trials have confirmed this
by executing the 1930s and 1940s variants of this blogger.

The above video mentions a liberast newspaper where this blogger is being turned into some sort of martyr (LOL) where
the author of the article defending him is cryptically calling for similar mass murder. It is time to arrest this clown, try him
and shut this rag down. Russian authorities are being way too f*cking soft. These NATO sponsored maggots have crossed
the line. Time to start cracking down.

kvs wrote:

The liberast 5th column chorus is defending the blogger who called for the murder of the wives and children of police officers
for doing their jobs and rounding up brazen law breakers (without causing them to lose eyes and fingers like in France).  

But these maggots conveniently forget that calling for mass murder is a crime itself and Nuremburg trials have confirmed this
by executing the 1930s and 1940s variants of this blogger.  

The above video mentions a liberast newspaper where this blogger is being turned into some sort of martyr (LOL) where
the author of the article defending him is cryptically calling for similar mass murder.   It is time to arrest this clown, try him
and shut this rag down.   Russian authorities are being way too f*cking soft.    These NATO sponsored maggots have crossed
the line.  Time to start cracking down.

The United States and its vassal countries are in an undeclared all-out War against Russia. Pro Russian governments in Austria and Italy has been sabotaged by Pro American forces, Now Russians across the world are being kidnapped one by one under bogus charges by the United States. These are Gloomy times and its going to be even messier in the near future. Russia needs to stop playing nice and start playing dirty.

PhSt wrote:

kvs wrote:

The liberast 5th column chorus is defending the blogger who called for the murder of the wives and children of police officers
for doing their jobs and rounding up brazen law breakers (without causing them to lose eyes and fingers like in France).  

But these maggots conveniently forget that calling for mass murder is a crime itself and Nuremburg trials have confirmed this
by executing the 1930s and 1940s variants of this blogger.  

The above video mentions a liberast newspaper where this blogger is being turned into some sort of martyr (LOL) where
the author of the article defending him is cryptically calling for similar mass murder.   It is time to arrest this clown, try him
and shut this rag down.   Russian authorities are being way too f*cking soft.    These NATO sponsored maggots have crossed
the line.  Time to start cracking down.

The United States and its vassal countries are in an undeclared all-out War against Russia. Pro Russian governments in Austria and Italy has been sabotaged by Pro American forces, Now Russians across the world are being kidnapped one by one under bogus charges by the United States. These are Gloomy times and its going to be even messier in the near future.  Russia needs to stop playing nice and start playing dirty.

Times are not gloomy, you are making elephant out of this.
Russia is surviving sanctions and adapting to new challenges better than expected. There's absolutely no military tensions and probably Greeks and Turks have higher chance of skirmish than Russians and Nato.

Russians are still able to do business in the west even with all the sanctions. There are plenty of Russians abroad - both studying, traveling and working in countries like Switzerland, UK and Germany. Except Butinas case, most people who get arrested are thugs with little brain - there is no mass imprisonment of Russians abroad.
China and US clash is hurting both of them more than Russian and US confrontation. Russia is doing business as usual and US is just trying to put sticks into Russian wheels, but gloves didn't come off yet. Shit can always go down pretty bad for both sides- closed airspaces, financial isolation, internet isolation, naval blockade, nuclear weapon dislocation next to Russian borders and etc. Trump and his trumpvestites are not suicidal. So far so good. But that's just my opinion.

So "actor" Ustinov was convicted for 3.5 years for attacking a OMAN officer. Anyway, a bunch of other "actors" and journalists once again came out and protested against his arrest. And sure enough, Prosecutor General demanded his release even though there are evidence of his crime:

https://twitter.com/Vityzeva/status/1174578771057397760

So it goes to show - liberals have far too much power in Russia. Wannabe Actors and "Intelligentsia" are above the law apparently.

This actually can bring down the Russian state as a whole. Because now they (US backed Liberals) know they can commit any crime and get away with it. All they have to do is protest the release and prosecutor general will let them go.

I wonder if any regular civilian can get away with such acts?

Worse is the message it sends to the police and national guard: the government does not have your backs. Regimes fall when the guys with the guns decide not to use them and it takes only a vocal and committed minority to overthrow a government that is too weak to use force. The same message is sent by arresting Navalny multiple times and letting him walk out a couple of days later a hero.