Russian Liberal Opposition

So NATzO is not even making any effort to conceal their interference. Imagine the level of MSM Bitching if opposition in NATzO countries is in contact with Russians in this scale  

Russia can't just sit back and let this brazen meddling go unanswered, these rats deserve a big slap in the face!  

EU, UK and U.S. to speak with Navalny team after Russia expels diplomats

-its perceived reputation isn't relevant; it's Putin's reputation that is at stake now.

Its credibility defines whether its unsubstantiated claims are realistic...

.-there r 100s of $Ms of Putin's assets there under different names too.

Dude... there are thousands of trillions of dollars of assets under different names.... your assets are not in Putins name either, but how can you prove they are his assets then?

-too late now.

But it isn't... it is only too late when the west has stolen it...

Of course it does not exist so there is no real sense in discussing it.

-wrong: it'll take a while, but in the end this corrupt regime will go with a bang.

If that were true western civilisation would have gone bang centuries ago.

.-it'll be a miracle if no1 dies in future protests & detentions before 2022;

What difference does it make if they do?

Trump didn't resign over dead people being murdered on his watch and Biden is no different...

it only looked stable, but it's on the feet of clay, like the late Russian Empire & the USSR were.

And yet it seems to be the country that scares the west the most...

- Russia doesn't have the US racism problem, but the police there treats civilians like cattle.

I would think the race issues in the US would be more acceptable if the police didn't keep shooting black people and not being held to account for it.... if they were not shooting people like the Russian police don't seem to there would not be so much to complain about would there... yet you claim it is worse.

Before, it was called "militia", then after 1 drunken & deranged militiaman shot a few shoppers in the supermarket, the law governing it & the name was changed. Ukraine followed suit, but Belarus didn't. The OMON, or riot police, still has M in it. But even after a purge of many unprofessional/substandard officers, there were a few wrongful deaths, long before the latest unrest. Most issues haven't been fixed. Now, they act like the occupants, but only with Russian names & passports.

Of course... Russian police are murderous barbarians... corrupt and crooked... they just don't kill as many people as American cops do which is why they have to go...

-I'm not idealizing the US, by any means. But it doesn't mean that both US & RF should never come out of barbarism, come hell or high water.

Doctor heal thyself... and stop with the medical advice that is worse than the disease.

- I see it better than u: Navalny is a politician, he ran for Moscow mayor, & was obstructed from forming a party & challenging Putin in elections.

Navalny is a western intel pawn... and a failure in most regards. He is a criminal and not even a successful one.

-that's what official propaganda wants u to believe.

Of course it is, but in this case it makes the most sense and is the most likely to be true view...

-in the Russian reality, it means a lot, & u better believe it!

He has done wonderful things for Russia... I don't care if he wears womens underwear...

- but whatever makes sense to u, it doesn't to me.

That is fine... I am not trying to convince you.

-he does, & they r now exposed as never before. the FBK followed the $; Navalny has the relevant investor's education & skills to follow all those trails like a wolfhound.

But not the basic skills to hide is criminal activity and stay out of jail...

To go to a foreign country and make accusations that the leader of your country tried to murder you and then voluntarily go back to that country... he is either a moron or he wanted to go to jail, and he either has a death wish or knows what he has been saying about Putin wanting him dead was bullshit.

Doesn't seem to have a death wish to me.

- I don't want to hear that fairy tale anymore! if a judge must be changed to hear the Navalny's case & brought to a police station to do that, then there is no separation of power at all. Many others already figuratively asked Putin to pull his pants up or take his cross off.

They changed the judge trying Saddam Hussein about 12 times and executed his lawyers too...

- I didn't, the others did.

Yup, Fuckwits did.

- he earned them according to a contract; a lot bigger bribes & thefts, incl. those connected to Putin's circle happen all the time there, but somehow it's the real opposition that gets all the blame now

He created and led an organisation that was supposed to be dealing with corruption and he fucking steals money himself... why is Putin even being mentioned... this guy is using this to deflect us from the simple truth that this dirtbag is a criminal and belongs in jail. Russian hackers was the argument Hillary Clinton put up when she was in the shit too and it worked perfectly in the US because Americans are clearly dumb as fuck...

- I'm not as good as the fictional Sherlock Holmes

Nobody is.

but can use his methods of deduction & elimination. que bono? if he didn't eliminate threats to his rule by such methods, he would be in prison or grave now, like many dictators before him.

The same could be applied to any leader anywhere in the world... it could be applied to me... how many did I murder to seize control over this website?

None?

The fact is that when you do a good job and most people like you it is easy enough to get elected, and criminal elements trying to remove you using criminal means can be caught and arrested and eliminated with the law and justice.

Of course that applies to Putin... for me this is a website and democracy has nothing to do with it.

- again, that doesn't make the situation in Russia any better than it is, when being compared not to worse examples, but with what it should be. Everything is relative.

I agree that it is hypocritical of me because the assholes in the west like to say that things are bad here but at least you don't live in Russia, but expecting things to be wonderful where you are while ignoring that things are bad everywhere is being a self centred ass hole, and if you actually managed to agitate enough people to do something about it you might find the fool that gets in because of your stupidity might make things much much worse... in fact you could almost guarantee it because your enemies are going to seriously support you in making such a stupid move and it gives them an opportunity to make sure some idiot friendly to them gets into power... even by getting Georgian Snipers to shoot people on both sides... I mean the US and the EU groomed people in the Ukraine... they made them popular on social media then they led them out to places in the protest and had their snipers shoot and kill them to stir up the fuckwits and it worked.

The guy Poro replaced was no genius... in fact he was rubbish, but compared with Poro they had stability and peace and a change of improving things... now they are eyebrow deep in shit and still sinking.

.- that's ur of conjecture, made with contempt; should I speculate more what u see in ur head/dreams?

Don't bother... your deductive methodology is the same childish level of the west.... we think that Russia might benefit from this happening therefore they did it... except they don't.

Thinking something to be true or possibly true does not make it true.

Innocent till PROVEN guilty.

.- not true. show me in their program documents they say that. borrowing certain things isn't = to copy everything.

They don't know the full plan... Washington hasn't told them what it is yet.

-those 3 helipads will come handy, but his 3 helos better have chaff to dispense.

Of course because Navalnys peaceful protesters are supplied by HATO and are actually murderous CIA .... that is a surprise.

- with the FBK help, now he'll avoid it like a plague, at least till the dust settles.

It is just a group of buildings... what is your problem?

But what is to prevent Ks of protesters blockading all the roads/coast & storming it?

Private property... say hello to my bullets bitches....

Pretend it is capitol hill and massacre them as terrorists.

some rich Russian/Georgian folks may even get mortars from army arsenals & reduce it to rubble.

So what if they do... you describe it as a Bond Villains lair... surely they have the machine guns and the entire Russian military to vapourise these CIA Bay of Pigs wannabes.

Then Putin will be pulled out of the bunker underneath like Saddam was, with Saakashvili greeting him, unless he kills himself 1st.

Putin has never and will never be there.... Suck Arse Milli Vanili will be chewing on ties in jail in Georgia wont he?

- there's even less reason to believe a non-convicted 1. a good looking apple may have a worm in it; in fact, a can worms in Putin's case.

There is neither smoke nor fire... just sad desperate western ghouls running out of legitimate ideas to deal with Putin and scraping the bottom of the barrel.

- as Nemtsov showed, it's still not all due to his & his team talents that Russia got better- w/o the high oil prices, her economy would be in the dipper gutter it is now.

Russian is full of resources and talent that can be exploited to move forward and upwards. Venezuela and Saudi Arabia also have oil wealth but neither are looking so good because unlike Russia they just paid lip service to diversification of economies...

- only since u & others like u refuse to accept it?

Unproven accusation is heresay and not useful evidence.

-what was the cause of it then? the hospital in Omsk didn't name anything remotely legible.

Neither did Germany or the west.

.- it was from the same family, & designed not to act instantly; in trace amounts, it didn't work 100% to kill him.

Yet they have an arsenal of chemicals that kill quickly and just as quickly leave the system leaving no trace, but the west claims he chooses to use pathetic doses of one of the most lethal chemicals on the planet where the survival rate is amazing...

-right, those foreigners were the bees to be followed to honey which was Navalny.

They know Navalny is a , there is no point in watching him sell out Russia like a little bitch. Their job would be to find all the different people Navalny meet and then follow them to find their web of spies.

- how silly! why should the police, if it's independent of Putin & professional, be concerned with all that? it's not a James Bond movie.

Navalny was planning a big scene by getting lots of fuckwits to meet him at the airport... perhaps forming a human shield so he could get to a car and escape... lots of bruises and cuts and broken bones no doubt all Putins fault.

Instead they went to an airport on the other side of Moscow, put him in cuffs and drove him away to a prison cell.

Funny how his millions of supporters are not everywhere and could have saved him no matter where they took him... Maybe claims about strong support are actually lies?

- r u sure that Putin isn't really working for German or some other interests, besides not his own?

He is working for Russian interests and that is all that matters... he might like Germans or he might despise them I don't care.

he was stationed in Germany, had contacts there & could be recruited to get the cut from gas exports.

How could he get a cut and hide that... he is not part of the discussions and meetings and money transfers from Germany to Russian gas companies would be public knowledge.

The secret behind corruption is that things cost more than normal... by hiding your cut within the price... say the Rafales cost India 200 million each and the extra 33 million per aircraft is the bribe.

Except the Germans are getting their gas very cheap already... there is no space for a bribe...

before I joined the USN, I cleaned restaurant tables; now I'm "turning tables " on u!

So more empty unsubstantiated accusations against Putin... well if the last ones didn't work I guess if you keep making shit up and throwing it... no... that isn't going to work either. Just like more sanctions on Russia doesn't work either...

.- intimidation is the preferred tactic used by bandits, & Putin is 1 of them, & now it is he who is getting scared.

If that were the case the whole suspended sentence thing was his idea to reduce jail populations of people who are no threat to the community... he could easily press charges over Navalny accusing him personally of murder, with the endangerment of the NSII project as the cost of the slander... when Navalny is found guilty Assange will get out before he does.

- 10s, if not 100s of Ks/Ms of people who r not even his supporters do care; that's another of ur delusions.

Not enough to protest outside his court case though...

Most would turn up to see where their promised $500 is... but all that will be there is Nuland and cookies and they will likely recognise the trap and run for the hills before Georgian snipers start murdering them.

- their printed results is just a peace of paper with formulas & narrative that will be dismissed as fake & propaganda by Russia, just like u dismiss anything that contradicts ur convictions.

The so called evidence they have will have levels that can be worked out based on time recordings to work out exactly when the so called poison came into contact with the liar, and information that their experts can either use to debunk the idea he was poisoned because their recordings and measures will be totally different and will show any evidence appeared after he got to the German lab.

- & r they treated there better than their Blacks?

What are you talking about? Their Blacks... what does that mean?
We don't have Black servants that run around for white people that we can compare as to how we treat the maori or PI communities.... ohh they can't afford servants but they get by...

No wonder you have race issues in America you talk about your fellow Americans like they are fucking dogs.

-so, there r no other sources on that?

Not from sources owned by Rupert Murdoch...

.- the CPRF won't be ruling alone, if at all.

Love your confidence, but you say Putin is on his way out, so I don't like your chances of actually being right.

.-they want Putin gone, if Navalny & the opposition he leads or part of can help in that, so be it. that's called pragmatism.

No, it is called stupidity... the west wants Putin gone and is trying to get the Russian people to think that too by using Navalny, but he is an idiot... it would be easier to get Biden overthrown by supporting Pee Wee Herman for president...

The west has wanted Putin gone for quite some time and has been violating all the democratic norms and principles to do it all over the world... Bolivia, Venezuela, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Ukraine, Belarus, Hong Kong, the US.... they just don't know when to stop... but the one they want the most... Russia... they suck at it.

-only after her double headed eagle on the coat of arms changes to a single headed, or if both heads look in 1 direction. The Nazis, Americans, & Mexicans had/have their eagles too. Empires r addicted to such symbolism.

Sounds like your addiction, not theirs.

-true, but somehow there is more stench in Russia. There was a Soviet saying: the west is rotting, but we have the stinking smell.

The west has perfume and deoderant... but does not shower... Russia gets dirty sometimes interacting with the west but it washes off easy enough... the trick is to hold the west by its neck at arms length to avoid the teeth....

-like Lenin, Uncle Ho, Sun Yat Sen, Saddam, & now Modi? don't make me laugh!

Just a list of names that have nothing to do with Putin.

- he's not that stupid to be a useful idiot.

He might have realised it now with no CIA plot to break him out of prison...

- Xi, like any other CCP member, isn't a true Taoist. Russia has many Cinologists that can explain Taoist concepts to those who would listen.

Putin and Russia are not Taoists either.

- that's a myth believed by his useful idiots; as u said, he's a naked human under his clothes after all; by now, he & his kids/lovers have enough & rn't for sale anymore.

Well if they are not for sale any more then keep them on... they can no longer be bought. Except if they have enough then they must have plenty yet you can't find it... sounds like a fail for you.

- they r profiting from his rule, but fleecing the RF. no wonder they smear the FBK, Navalny & the liberals, while professing their loyalty to Michail Ivanovich- a code name they use for Putin. btw, if he was that clean, they would use his real name while conversing in public.

Perhaps they smear them because they are beneath contempt working for foreign agencies to undermine and weaken Russia.

What is this bullshit about pseudonyms?

Orange man (Trump) and Creepy Joe (Joe Biden) pseudonyms are common...

.- IMO, the RF needs his resignation ASAP, & the sooner he realizes it, the better.

IMO your O means nothing to him and he will continue to lead Russia forward... probably continuing to steer clear of the wreckage that is the west...

-no, he got there on his own, but the FSB cultivated him for future use as a normal practice

So he didn't break US rules and get Trump elected... he just indicated that he wanted to work with Trump to make relations between Russia and the US better.... what a total bastard... I can see why that pissed you off and you are demanding he resign immediately, or that could be sarcasm and I think comments about your medical care and medications levels are perhaps more valid that I thought when I read them.

.- I don't want Russia to be fucked, her people got raped by Putinism already!

So what you are trying to say is that the amazing growth and development since Putin took office is nothing compared with the growth and development if Putin wasn't there because the west would not be putting sanctions on Russia so they would not be producing food, they would still be importing cheap food from the EU, and of course the Ukraine and Crimea would be uncontested HATO territory with HATO ships in Sevastopol...

Sounds like a choice between Putin and westraped, and they picked the correct pill.

Ukraine is enjoying getting westraped right now and it is not pretty.

- he's not the only 1 who can analyze utube; where r his debunkers that proved that the clip has no impact on the public opinion in the RF?

Perhaps you are the only one who read his data...

-time usage showed it was being watched in European Russia during the lunch hour, & calculated as average 20min at a time. Not unusual for a 2hr clip. even if no1 watched it till the end, they got the message: Putin is a criminal.

Or they were entertained by a clown and reaffirmed their choice to vote for Putin because the alternatives are losers.

.- the West intel was just watching him & he got complacent; if he tries to get those assets back now, he'll find the trap had closed.

What are you talking about? What assets? Besides what could he possibly do with land over seas? Go there for a holiday and end up like Assange or Snowden or Manning?

- name me a Russian product that USA needs so bad & that no1 else is in the business of importing it.

A Fucking Dynamite Enima at the moment buddy.

Three sticks.

-Brzezinski was right: w/o Ukraine, Russia can't be an empire. The Eurasian Union is just a new 21st century name for it.

Brzezinski was a moron... an architect of the chaos that is western foreign policy towards Russia, but when it didn't work they just hunkered down and kept applying it and surprise surprise... it kept not working. Ukraine was what was holding Russia back... if they can only work out a way of ditching Belarus things will be awesome.

- that's another myth: he never was rightful nor 100% legal.

Voted in plenty of times, perfectly legal... certainly more legal than any US election in the last two centuries.

- true, but he didn't build it for himself. If he did, Putin would've taken it away: "how come he has a bigger & better palace than I do, set up a restricted zone & uses my FSO to guard it, that's an insult! Let's put him in a prison camp for corruption & seize his assets like we did with Khodorkovsky & his Ukos. Connect me with the Prosecutor General!". Thanks, the evidence had come the full circle.

That all happened in your head... you do understand that right?

- I hope it'll never be his, even de-facto.

He does not seem even interested in it... neither now nor 10 years ago when it was built.

China also held Vietnam for a K years; the trend is to expand to the SE Asia & then Australia, & NZ is just next to it.

But if they used to occupy what is now Vietnam then their empire shrank... which is the opposite of what it would need to do to risk New Zealand.

yes, they r/were; many others accused them of that.

Accusations mean nothing.

- which will be viewed as bribes; a person in his position shouldn't be taking them. Did he become the president of Russia to sport watches while most of his people spend all their time trying to have ends meet?

But surely the starving Russian people would prefer he gets to meetings on time...

-Ngo Di Diem didn't sell his S. Vietnamese but was still removed in a coup. A good precedent!

No. I would guess it was a CIA coup because there is no other kind... and CIA coups are never good... not even the most recent one that removed Trump from power.

-& cracking down on mostly peaceful protests, dissent, the independent media & restricting freedom of speech.

That ship has sailed... see demands for Fox News to fire all their personalities that ever said anything nice about Trump... night of the long knives?

It looks like the little princess in the image is all by herself at her party (I assume birthday). Sort of like the lack of turnout for Navalny.

But Navalny got a nice set of matching silver bracelets...

Wow, who will be the next inconsequential moron you will quote in your hysterical crusade to smear Putin? What about Masha Gessen, the Russia/Putin-hating lesbian jew feminist? She's always good for a laugh!

Haven't heard from Pavel Felgenhauer for a while... not much after 2008 when he claimed the HATO trained Georgian troops will cut through Russian special forces like a hot knife through warm butter...

Guaido Navalny

Guano Anally... good nickname.

So calling themselves democrats is cynical deflection from
their anti-democratic agenda.

American democrats and their undemocratic actions do more to undermine democracy around the world than any other force of nature or otherwise.

A planet killing asteroid is more democratic and honest...

Russia can't just sit back and let this brazen meddling go unanswered, these rats deserve a big slap in the face!

Every time a western politician mentions Navalny Russia should talk about Assange... it needs to be automatic...

-it least he has better applied logic skills than u; don't judge a book by its cover!

Becoming a traitor to support the mess that is the US is never logical...

If the west loves the Russian people so much why do they keep imposing crippling sanctions on Russia to hurt Russia for no real reason?

Why have they not just seized Putins billions... or is it trillions by now... in overseas bank accounts and palaces...

Of course it seems that building Navalny claimed was Putins was a failed hotel... they will be over the moon.... with all this publicity foreign investors and foreign media outlets will pay money to have a look through... of course without the photoshop modifications they might find it rather boring and not very James Bondy at all...


Hey... that could be the solution... rent the property to the people who make the Bond movies... and then rennovate it and make it a feature destination... like they did with Lord of the Rings' Hobbiton set in Wellington.