2S38 Derivatsiya-PVO 57-mm SPAAG

First prototype of the latest self-propelled air-defence system Derivatsiya-PVO is undergoing preliminary testing.

hoom wrote:Some shooty vid
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Turret appears to have been significantly revised, looks a bit chunkier, radar is moved into right cheek, chunkier recoil mechanism & other details.

Hole wrote:You can have one for your car!

Isos wrote:What penetration would have an APFSDS of 57mm ? Could it go through the sides of MBT ?

Hole wrote: But it will be to big and heavy for the Tigr.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:Not surewhat is side armor of MBTs si but  after wiki for 40mm, so  I wouldnt think 57mm has worse penetration. But everything besides MBT  is dead with 1 shot      

The-thing-next-door wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote:Not surewhat is side armor of MBTs si but  after wiki for 40mm, so  I wouldnt think 57mm has worse penetration. But everything besides MBT  is dead with 1 shot      

Are you joking?

everything besides MBT

What penetration would have an APFSDS of 57mm ? Could it go through the sides of MBT ?

This is the old turret. New one seems to be heavier.

hoom wrote:

What penetration would have an APFSDS of 57mm ? Could it go through the sides of MBT ?

According to Wiki the S-60 (as used in Syria) has APCBC with 96mm pen at 1000m, thats definitely capable of penning the sides of the early Cold War era tanks being used there (give or take angle & presence of ERA), might even get lucky on the more vulnerable bits of a modern tank.

Hole wrote:Old = first version of the turret.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:SO according to you APC is OK after a shot form 57mm?  or a helicopter or what?

Russian Defense Ministry
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The latest fighting AU-220M module for installation by the BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicle has passed tests. The module is intended for fight against land and air targets

AU-220M has the increased firing accuracy, the enhanced getting abilities and zapregradny action of ammunition of caliber of 57 mm. The module can have remote control, at the same time the crew has an opportunity to be out of the IFV case.

The new product is universal. AU-220M can be used together with various existing and perspective samples of armored machinery, is installed not only on Terminator BMP-3, BMPT cars, but also on the perspective platforms "Armata", "Resident of Kurgan-25", "Bumerang" and also on the ships and boats of small displacement.

The angle of lead of a trunk of the AU-220M gun is much higher, than at a classical artillery cannon. It increases fighting capacity in city conditions and gives the chance to fire on air targets. BMP-3 equipped with the new fighting module is capable to fire from the place, on the run and afloat.

The maximum rate of fire of AU-220M - 80 shots a minute, range of fire — up to 14,5 km, a unit of fire - 80 shots. In a unit of fire the multipurpose fragmental and demolition, armor-piercing and operated shells. With the gun the machine gun of caliber of 7,62 mm is coupled to a unit of fire in one thousand cartridges. The module has a possibility of rotation by 360 degrees on the horizon.

#Минобороны #ГОЗ #ВВСТ #АУ220М #БМП3 #Гособоронзаказ

The main characteristics, according to official materials:

Maximum range of damage - 6 km.
The maximum height of the lesion is 4.5 km.
The rate of fire is 120 rounds per minute.
Full ammunition - 148 shots.
The vertical guidance angle is 5 deg / +75 deg.
Angle of guidance horizontally - 360 degrees.
The maximum speed of the targets hit is 500 m / s
Calculation - 3 people.

The combat vehicle 2S38 is equipped with an optic-electronic system for detection and targeting of OES OP, the development of Minsk OJSC "Peleng". It allows you to carry out panoramic observation of the terrain by 360 degrees, as well as to conduct a sectoral survey. Detection range through one of the television channels of a small unmanned aerial vehicle of the Bird Eye 400 type in the survey mode is declared at 700 m, in the narrow field of view - 4900 m. The A-10 attack aircraft is detected in the first mode already at a range of 6400 m, and in the second - at 12,300 m. The thermal imaging channel makes it possible to detect targets with a size of 2.3 × 2.3 m with a probability of 80% at a range of 10,000 m and recognize them at a distance of 4,000 m.

hoom wrote:In the comments someone asked an important question: does it link in to other parts of an air-defense setup -> can take cue/target designation from a command vehicle or is it independent?

Seems to be specifically being referred to as an anti-air vehicle rather than a fire-support/IFV with good AA ability so I guess its going to be a lot more rare than I'd like to see.

Yeah, a lot of long and thick… barrels this year. A real sausage party. They should put up some T-72´s to counter it.

This has been discussed in this thread. The 57 mm autocannon allows both a high fire power against ground targets and high effectiveness as AA weapon (long range, guided ammo). Don't find any reason to think it is built specifically as AA weapon, being an infantry vehicle and armed with Ataka ATGM