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medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.
TR1 wrote:medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.
I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.
TR1 wrote:medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.
I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.
medo wrote:TR1 wrote:medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.
I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.
MiG-29KUB will be on carrier. Yak-130 will be on naval ground training center (Crimea or in Russia), where they have ski jump and arrester wires for trainings of new pilots, before they will go to carrier. maybe they will order more MiG-29KUB for training center for this task.
Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings. Mike E Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:02 pm
George1 wrote:Carrier-based fighters Su-33 after modernization will serve for 10 years
flamming_python wrote:
But now this..
Why spend money on this pointless modernization program if the MiG-29Ks are ready for duty?
What was the point of developing the MiG-29K in the first place - just for India?
In 10 years time, the naval PAK-FAs will be ready and the MiG-29K might as well be skipped altogether.
I don't get the logic modernizing these well-worn shells, that take up way more room than the compact MiG-29Ks and neccessitate the precence of a completely different aircraft for training purposes; while not offering anything the MiG-29Ks can't offer.
Even if the Kuznetsov isn't going to be floated in for refit and modernization anytime soon, there seems to be no justification for keeping these sea-worn veterans of the fleet around - they're due for retirement not modernization.
George1 wrote:Carrier-based fighters Su-33 after modernization will serve for 10 years
GarryB wrote:The MiG-29Ks were a freebee... basically all the development was paid for by the sales to India and continued sales will keep production going for some time so it makes sense to buy them for the Russian Military.
Regarding upgrading the Su-33s they were very basic and any modification would greatly improve their capabilities making the still very useful carrier aircraft... I rather suspect Sukhoi is offering a very attractive upgrade package at a greatly subsidised price as it will keep them in the naval carrier aircraft game.
Personally I think having MiG-29k2s and Su-33SM3s is a good thing for the Russian Navy...
GJ Flanker wrote:The MiG-29KR is not that suitable for heavy ASM's.
A Su-33SM - MiG-29KR/KUBR Combo is the best thing that could happen to the RuNavy at this moment.
GJ Flanker wrote:First:
The MiG-29KR will surely have some issues taking off from the Kuznetsov with 2 heavy ASM! Suitable for the MiG-29KR are AS-17 and AS-20!
Second:
The Su-33SM will have "longer legs" than the MiG-29KR. Simply more range and I think the better air superiority fighter with its canards. In the end no issues with heavy Yakhont and Kalibr!
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