Gender ethics in the military

hoom wrote:Also Marching Girls were present

hoom wrote:Also Marching Girls were present

Big_Gazza wrote:

hoom wrote:Also Marching Girls were present

Real girls!

In the West we'd have a troop of "trans-women" shaking their fake tits while libtard SJWs wave rainbow flags and some pet cuck of a navy spokesman struggles to mix LGBTQWERTY themes into the speech without making it sound contrived (yes, an impossible task).  

medo wrote:This Russian drums team girls are often present at ship launching ceremonies in StP. It seems in Russia in girl's groups are still real girls members. But if I understand you correctly, in the West political correctness already enforced LGBT quotas in girl's groups. And the West still thinks, they could win in war against real power. They could not defend themselves even against muslim immigrants.

don't have to accept female combat troops who will only be a &ucking burden and pain in the arse in actual combat operation

Tsavo Lion wrote:Not all women r created equal:

GarryB wrote:

According to available data, economic speed of pr/677 SSK on batteries is 650NM @3knots, which is a decent figure, not far from stirling driven swedish boats. If future russian AIP can achieve 1000NM range @, say, 6 knots it can be real step forward! It corresponds to 4x bigger energy capacity, or something like that.

Russian subs don't have to go anywhere, the real value in AIP is not having to surface.

Off the top of my head I seem to remember the stats being something like the Kilo can stay underwater for 5-7 days, while the Lada with the new batteries can do more than twice that, and with the AIP it extends to 3-4 weeks underwater but not zipping round at high speed of course.

The talk was that the new batteries plus the AIP basically made them nuke powered equivalents in terms of time underwater... but without the speed of a nuke of course.

Their sensors and equipment including land attack cruise missiles and the like also make them nuke like in performance... but as mentioned the first in the series did not meet expectations to start with... they found and fixed the problems and now they are finishing number two and three and likely making one or two more.

Or Xena from New Zealand  lol1  lol1  lol1 GarryB should know her better

Yeah... thats Lucy... she lives down the street... everyone in New Zealand knows each other... it is not a big place....  

Regarding this gender respect stuff and feminism... in Desert Storm there was a ship nicknamed the Love Boat, because over half the crew were women... the Navy was so proud... so many brownie points I am surprised they didn't send a camera crew and make a TV show about them... except when it came time to actually go to Desert Storm to a real war something like 80% of the women crew suddenly got pregnant and couldn't go... obviously the ship couldn't go without replacement crew.

I remember reading Soldier of Fortune magazine in the 80s and 90s and they would talk about units with women in them where the men did the extra work to cover for the fact that the women were not physically strong enough to do their job... officers would see logistics units shifting boxes of ammo... what they didn't see was that the boxes were empty because the women in the unit couldn't move the full boxes... that is training to win...

Career soldiers couldn't say anything... one soldier left the army because he said to one woman recruit that was struggling to handle the M60 machine gun that she didn't need to worry because she would likely never get to use it... I say left, but I mean kicked...

Made my blood boil too...

Females now serve on the USN SSBNs. There r also some pilots. Don't know how good their performance compared to males.

There are some jobs women are better than men at... I have read that being a sniper requires patience and women can be very good at it, but when you mix in PC where she is in the job because if she can't get combat roles it hurts her chance of promotion... even though most women tend to get promoted faster than men anyway... because we don't want to be seen as sexist... if you can promote a man or a woman you promote the woman or risk being labelled sexist...

GarryB wrote:Actually women are generally shorter than men and therefore better able to handle high g forces, but I agree that statistically women are not aggressive killers, so therefore will not relentlessly hunt down a kill opponents... but then not all men are like that either.

Of course there were quite a few Soviet snipers that were rather effective during WWII, and of course the Night Witches showed they could be effective night attack bomber crews too.

I remember reading an account by a German officer where early in the war his unit took a village that had be rather well protected by an anti aircraft gun that stopped the German forces for quite some time and did some serious damage to the German unit... he was quite shocked when they finally killed them and found it was a female AA gun unit... he said he illusions of just walking into the Soviet Union like they walked into other European states just was not going to happen this time...

Of course during war time things are different... sometimes everyone has to fight. I understand that.

The problem I have is... I am a female... I should be put in a combat unit otherwise it will effect my promotion prospects... even if I don't deserve promotion and would be totally useless to any unit I was assigned to.