Syrian War: News #19

This is from a month ago but Defence Blog highlighted this yesterday. True or F-35 puff piece, who knows?


Last month, an Israeli satellite imagery analysis company ImageSat confirmed that Chinese-made JY-27 radar of the Syrian Air Defense at Damascus airport destroyed by Israeli airstrikes on January 20th. No airstrike details were given and the quoted ImageSat did also not contain any further information but some source said that radar was destroyed by Israeli F-35i Adir fighter jets.

The source claims that F-35i Adir fighter jet of the Israeli Air Force has destroyed Chinese design JY-27 radar of the Syrian Air Defense near Damascus International Airport on 20 January.

The JY-27 radar of the Chinese manufacturer CETC is a fully solid-state and fully coherent long-range early warning system. It is designed and developed to provide early warning information and detect low-observable air targets in so-called “Stealth technology”, included F-35 and F-22 fighter aircraft. Besides, it provides the early warning information for weapons system as well.

Representatives of the Israeli Air Force refused to comment on this issue. In fact, the recent raids reveal Israel’s continuing ability to defeat Syrian air defense facilities, but some military experts said that radar was destroyed by the kamikaze-drone.

https://defence-blog.com/news/source-israeli-f-35-destroyed-chinese-made-radar-during-airstrikes-in-syria.html

No radar in the world can see planes behind mountains. They could have even used f-4 with stand off weapons, the result would be the same.

If they want to destroy the f-35/16 they need 300 kh-59 missiles as well as 80 more su-24 fighters able to launch them. Use the same mountains in lebanon just like the israeli at 2am during night, hit shelters in airport where the f-35 are and you will have  a successfull mission. But they don't do anything ...

Such mission would destroy all israeli airforce.

Isos wrote:No radar in the world can see planes behind mountains. They could have even used f-4 with stand off weapons, the result would be the same.

If they want to destroy the f-35/16 they need 300 kh-59 missiles as well as 80 more su-24 fighters able to launch them. Use the same mountains in lebanon just like the israeli at 2am during night, hit shelters in airport where the f-35 are and you will have  a successfull mission. But they don't do anything ...

Such mission would destroy all israeli airforce.

Look at the WHy S-300 not used video..

Shows clearly Israel tactics . hiding behind Lebanon mountains and hit and hide tactics..
This is why i was saying Syria is the worse place possible in middle east to deploy Long
range air defenses.. Since mountains passages allows enemy planes to cover..

Russia will need to deploy S-300s in Lebanon too to push Israel airforce far away ,and no longer
flying low will work.

Trump is staying....

Till Bernie wins in 2020...

not sure of the value of the retort...

Where are the "Experts" , who were claiming NATO is not fighting Syrian army? and that the
Syrian army was only fighting "activist" who took weapons ?  

Now the British Government confirms.. what i have been saying since 2012.. 7 years ago..that British Special forces where in LAND in Syria ,fighting against Syrian army.. they and also American special forces and Israel special forces and France special forces they were ALL of them ,each one with at least a couple of hundreds military forces ,helping ISIS and Alqaeda and every other terrorist group..
to fight Assad..  so Average Syrian army was fighting a couple of thousands of NATO top military forces in Syria

UK's SAS Fought in Syria Skirting Parliament's Decision, Military Admits

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201902241072699838-uk-sas-syria/

So let me clarify ,my 9 years of experience ,investigating the entire syrian conflict..
ALL NATO nuclear powers US-UK -France ,Turkey ,Israel ,Saudi Arabia and Qatar..
they all of them had top of the line special forces guiding drones ,and leading the operations
against the Syrian army.. also training in the creation of bombs and mines .. supervising everything.

There was even credible reports , blogs ,of one Russian spetnaz , who retired from the military ,
who was in Syria as advisor.. much earlier that Russia military went to Syria.. who told the Syrian
army was fighting real professional people and not just seminaked talibans.. the special forces never
upload videos on youtube showing their presence.. only their backed terrorist groups.. NATO special forces cover their faces to not be recognized..  one Russian soldier as advisor in Syria told.. that there was even Spetnaz working in the side of the FSA.. people that came from soviet former republics near afganistan..

-In 2012 French special forces were captured in Homs by Syrian army ,they were the leaders
of the FSA operations in homs ,when they captured the old city.. the terrorist had French Anti
tank missiles and remote control robots and satellite communications ,back in 2012..
-there was reports of Lybian terrorist too ,working for the FSA.. with pictures they uploaded.
-there was also reports of Turkish special forces.. and turkey army.. they were the ones who captured  IDLIB..
-Putin himself ,after the major incident with their intelligence plane shot down ,spoke
in sputnik about Israel special forces killed "fighthing ISIS"  that was killed by Russian military ,because they "did not knew" they were there.. that it was rare the place they found him.  
  and so he helped Israel to recover and return is dead body..  
-there was a case of British special forces arrested back in 2013.. by Syria.. when such things happens , Russia and Syria stay quiet ,to do negotiations for their release.. so they can save face..
for the embarrassment but they will have to give something big in return..
-and then ,there is the chinesse report on chinese military magazine ,how Russia killed
near 2,000 American/British and Israel special forces in Damascus , in eastern ghouta..
and that many British special forces were arrested.. after liberating the city. .  this was just a week later ,after Americans media claimed 300 Russian paramilitary soldiers killed..
so after connecting all dots.. after Americans bomb pro Russian military private military positions..
 that Russia government officially admit lost 5-6 of them.. and American media claimed 300-400.
 Russia took revenge and bombed to hell eastern ghouta.. where Russia knew Americans and british
special forces were located. and so they liberated the city at lighting speed.. that was turned into a
fortress for 5 years..  and later chinese media report about the deaths of thousands of American/british and Israelis in that city that were in the side of terrorist..  and a week later
the rumor began to spread in asmadar news.. and then Russia government media Sputnik throw the story too.. that British special forces where captured by Syrian army in damascus..  

now ,what every idiot was denying in this forums.. it is confirmed that British special forces
did indeed ,were fighting in land on Syria.. something that was never reported before.. but
UK governent claims .they were "fighting ISIS". and why will the british government say this now?
isn't this suspicious?  because very highly likely Syria is threatening to reveal this truth to the world..
and they want to damage control ,minimize the blowback..   So is almost official british special forces
SAS where captured by Syrian army.. Sputnik gave the hint.. the question now is .. if they negotiated
the release ? or if they now want to pressure Syria in public to release them?

and there was even one report of German special forces too , who works for NATO ,who tried
to smuggle weapons from the sea.. they were arrested by Syrian army and later allowed to leave
for Russia negotiations..  

So many things.. happens behind the scenes ,that are never told.. during the time of the war..

The Syrian war is not a revolution ,but a NATO/Israel/middle east invasion on Syria a proxy war against Russia ,IRAN and Syria.. and using rebels terrorist as a trojan horse to justify their invasion..
there is also chinese islamic rebels there.. and chechen islamic fighters too.. but that is not news..
Iran special forces ,released drone intercepted/hacked videos of  American armed drones ,flying over ISIS and completely ignoring them .when having a meeting of hundreds of head choppers..at same time.. ignoring.. and there are reports of Kurds with help of NATO , trading territory with ISIS with a shake of hands..  Alqaeda takes territory away from Syria ..and later they pass it to kurds under US supervision. there are Kurds who support syria government and there are kurds that not. they not united.. So don't be surprised if next days or weeks ,Syria army..show videos of captured
british soldiers..in the next days or weeks.. unless they got a major agreement with UK for not doing it..

Vann7 wrote:Where are the "Experts" , who were claiming NATO is not fighting Syrian army? and that the
Syrian army was only fighting "activist" who took weapons ?  

Now the British Government confirms.. what i have been saying since 2012.. 7 years ago..that British Special forces where in LAND in Syria ,fighting against Syrian army.. they and also American special forces and Israel special forces and France special forces they were ALL of them ,each one with at least a couple of hundreds military forces ,helping ISIS and Alqaeda and every other terrorist group..
to fight Assad..  so Average Syrian army was fighting a couple of thousands of NATO top military forces in Syria

UK's SAS Fought in Syria Skirting Parliament's Decision, Military Admits

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201902241072699838-uk-sas-syria/

So let me clarify ,my 9 years of experience ,investigating the entire syrian conflict..
ALL NATO nuclear powers US-UK -France ,Turkey ,Israel ,Saudi Arabia and Qatar..
they all of them had top of the line special forces guiding drones ,and leading the operations
against the Syrian army.. also training in the creation of bombs and mines .. supervising everything.

There was even credible reports , blogs ,of one Russian spetnaz , who retired from the military ,
who was in Syria as advisor.. much earlier that Russia military went to Syria.. who told the Syrian
army was fighting real professional people and not just seminaked talibans.. the special forces never
upload videos on youtube showing their presence.. only their backed terrorist groups.. NATO special forces cover their faces to not be recognized..  one Russian soldier as advisor in Syria told.. that there was even Spetnaz working in the side of the FSA.. people that came from soviet former republics near afganistan..

-In 2012 French special forces were captured in Homs by Syrian army ,they were the leaders
of the FSA operations in homs ,when they captured the old city.. the terrorist had French Anti
tank missiles and remote control robots and satellite communications ,back in 2012..
-there was reports of Lybian terrorist too ,working for the FSA.. with pictures they uploaded.
-there was also reports of Turkish special forces.. and turkey army.. they were the ones who captured  IDLIB..
-Putin himself ,after the major incident with their intelligence plane shot down ,spoke
in sputnik about Israel special forces killed "fighthing ISIS"  that was killed by Russian military ,because they "did not knew" they were there.. that it was rare the place they found him.  
  and so he helped Israel to recover and return is dead body..  
-there was a case of British special forces arrested back in 2013.. by Syria.. when such things happens , Russia and Syria stay quiet ,to do negotiations for their release.. so they can save face..
for the embarrassment but they will have to give something big in return..
-and then ,there is the chinesse report on chinese military magazine ,how Russia killed
near 2,000 American/British and Israel special forces in Damascus , in eastern ghouta..
and that many British special forces were arrested.. after liberating the city. .  this was just a week later ,after Americans media claimed 300 Russian paramilitary soldiers killed..
so after connecting all dots.. after Americans bomb pro Russian military private military positions..
 that Russia government officially admit lost 5-6 of them.. and American media claimed 300-400.
 Russia took revenge and bombed to hell eastern ghouta.. where Russia knew Americans and british
special forces were located. and so they liberated the city at lighting speed.. that was turned into a
fortress for 5 years..  and later chinese media report about the deaths of thousands of American/british and Israelis in that city that were in the side of terrorist..  and a week later
the rumor began to spread in asmadar news.. and then Russia government media Sputnik throw the story too.. that British special forces where captured by Syrian army in damascus..  

now ,what every idiot was denying in this forums.. it is confirmed that British special forces
did indeed ,were fighting in land on Syria.. something that was never reported before.. but
UK governent claims .they were "fighting ISIS". and why will the british government say this now?
isn't this suspicious?  because very highly likely Syria is threatening to reveal this truth to the world..
and they want to damage control ,minimize the blowback..   So is almost official british special forces
SAS where captured by Syrian army.. Sputnik gave the hint.. the question now is .. if they negotiated
the release ? or if they now want to pressure Syria in public to release them?

and there was even one report of German special forces too , who works for NATO ,who tried
to smuggle weapons from the sea.. they were arrested by Syrian army and later allowed to leave
for Russia negotiations..  

So many things.. happens behind the scenes ,that are never told.. during the time of the war..

The Syrian war is not a revolution ,but a NATO/Israel/middle east invasion on Syria a proxy war against Russia ,IRAN and Syria.. and using rebels terrorist as a trojan horse to justify their invasion..
there is also chinese islamic rebels there.. and chechen islamic fighters too.. but that is not news..
Iran special forces ,released drone intercepted/hacked videos of  American armed drones ,flying over ISIS and completely ignoring them .when having a meeting of hundreds of head choppers..at same time.. ignoring.. and there are reports of Kurds with help of NATO , trading territory with ISIS with a shake of hands..  Alqaeda takes territory away from Syria ..and later they pass it to kurds under US supervision. there are Kurds who support syria government and there are kurds that not. they not united.. So don't be surprised if next days or weeks ,Syria army..show videos of captured
british soldiers..in the next days or weeks.. unless they got a major agreement with UK for not doing it..

Everyone with some brain knew from beginning that SAA is not only fighting ISIS but also Nato special forces.
I also heard the interview with a russian guy talking about the chinese intel who say that 200 US Special forces together with 1600 US mercenaries" were killed in east ghouta
I also connected this as "revenge" for many hundreds russian wagners killed
I also think that US revenged this with the big fire in an russian mall with at least 64 killed, other sources say there were way more killed, 200-300, mostly children.
Only biggest pigs on earth can do something like this, no honour, killing unarmed civilians, children, slaves of Talmud!

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/27/europe/russia-kemerovo-shopping-mall-fire-intl/index.html

this was no coincidence, CIA/MOSSAD or MI6

no coincidence, killing of us special forces was in february 2018, fire in russia mall in march...emergency exits were "blocked"....just connect the dots

200 US Special forces together with 1600 US mercenaries" were killed in east ghouta

In the internet age, that would be impossible to hide in the US, as they all have parents, relatives, friends, girlfriends, or wives. So, don't trust those who write unconfirmed made up rumors.

There r also independent journalists & bloggers. After Russians military & mercenaries/volunteers were killed in Donbass & Syria, many groups found out & correlated different data, incl. from social sites.

not sure of the value of the retort...

relevant to the thread... I assumed you were saying Trump was unpredictable... well predictably so... and I am saying that as early as next year he could be out, so his claims of being less interfering around the world and bringing american soldiers home might be the usual bullshit, but I think Sanders might make the same promise but why should we trust him to keep his word either... he endorsed clinton.

Unless clinton wins syria is probably going to become less and less important in the US politically because they are unlikely to get rid of Assad and even if a shot in the dark hits home and he is somehow murdered in that fine American backstabbing tradition of real democracy... who is to say his replacement wont be much worse for the US.

lycantrop wrote:
this was no coincidence, CIA/MOSSAD or MI6

no coincidence, killing of us special forces was in february 2018, fire in russia mall in march...emergency exits were "blocked"....just connect the dots

exactly..
Many small battles are never reported..
With casualties on both sides.. now British Government themselves recognize
they had specials SAS forces and not just trained rebels by them..but their best soldiers..
killed many of them by Syrian army and Russia.

So basically without any exageration Syrian conflict = A mini scale world war 3 without nukes..
but with chemical weapons use .. Because NATO was providing not only help to hundred of thousands terrorist..  but also they had several thousands soldiers too ,specials forces there.. that is nuclear powers and turkey. france alone is deep in the fight as much as turkey is.. and the last credible look report i saw.. said France had 7,000 soldiers in kurds zones protecting them from Turkey and syrian army invasion. A major cement company from france never cease operations after ISIS /Alqaeda captured north of Syria , so France helped the terrorist in north of Syria building underground bunkers..

Rebels got air support from NATO , warning them from Syrian/Russian positions and whenever
Russia planes take off ,so they hide.. and also the got drones , and satelite communications and armored APC from turkey.. and US.. with unlimited supply of munition and food..  a small scale
world war 3.. and Russia got the upper hand. without sacrificing much. there are still terrorist in north syria but is only because Turkey ,US and France are there blocking Russia and Syria from enter.

Can Russia liberate all North Syria ? absolutely Russia have the power to do it..
but the price is too high in economic cost of sending a full scale army ,
like breaking relation with Turkey and France and provoking a major war with
US and Israel ,for a piece of land that Russia don't need and only wants for better security
for its base. Eventually Russia likely will retake idlib when Erdogan is sacked or retire..

Tsavo Lion wrote:

200 US Special forces together with 1600 US mercenaries" were killed in east ghouta

In the internet age, that would be impossible to hide in the US, as they all have parents, relatives, friends, girlfriends, or wives. So, don't trust those who write unconfirmed made up rumors.

just look at US policy in Syria.. not many know US are aiding
Alqaeda and ISIS.. and there is no national scandal for this..  The power of US media
is almost absolute.. to cover warcrimes and death of people.. Mercenaries sent to Syria
for example could be retired special forces ,Private military contractors ,who their families
need to sign a contract for silence.. So is perfectly possible. In RUssia there is many 5th column
media that Russia government don't control.. In America is not that way.. most media in US is
controlled one way or another..by the system.. 5 major cable media companies controls
most of US media..   so is very easy to cover.. when you run a nation ,like an Empire ..
and the elite is rewarded for their silence. So it is possible to hide anything.. in Great America
at least.. youtube/facebook/twiter/google is censoring non stop and google is deranking videos that don't align with the western narrative. Even Infowars is now sold out. don't cover the Venezuela
conflict and the rare times they do it.. just report fake news. is difficult in US to have independent
media ,and make profits from it.. even RT journalist personal channels are being censored..
and it will be a matter of time they will censor RT and sputnik too.

the first casualty before a world war 3 start..most likely will be the internet.. they will shut it down
if for example they lose a warship of an aircraft carrier to any country.. to hide that..for enough
time ,to control population.. and more likely will blame Russia for the shut down of internet.

Unless Clinton wins..

She won't run again AFAIK. Syria is lost to the US, just like Libya.

The last para is the significant one.

Special sources provided D24 network with details of the disappearance of two groups of the Assad’s forces in Deir Ezzor over the past few days.

According to the sources, the first group consisted of three Russian fighters, one of them is an officer and a group of five local fighters of the Assad’s forces, including an officer, a noncommissioned officer and three soldiers.

The sources added:

The group was ambushed by Daesh on the road between Deir Ezzor and Palmyra, and the operation resulted in the killing of the five Syrian elements, whose bodies were found at the site, while the Russian fighters were likely to be captured by the organization.

The same sources confirmed the disappearance of another military group of the Assad forces, consisting of an officer and nine soldiers in the badiyah of Deir Ezzor in the area between Al-Mayadeen and Al-Ishara, where the group was conducting a reconnaissance in the badiyah area before losing contact with it, so it is likely that it was ambushed by Daesh.

There were few days between the two similar incidents in Deir Ezzor, indicating an increase in Daesh activity in the badiyah of Deir Ezzor on the west bank of the Euphrates River, coinciding with the receding of the organization and its surrender in its last strongholds, “Al-Baghuz town” in the east bank of the Euphrates River.

https://en.deirezzor24.net/deir-ezzor-24-publishes-details-about-the-disappearance-of-assad-forces-groups-including-russian-officers-in-deir-ezzor/?fbclid=IwAR0S6jR97DxkQYex1AShJir81PbL5W6uzYfVkFH90iPNYXLBKpcy2_EVthw

fake news..

If the terror groups backed by NATO captured Russian soldiers.. they will be celebrating this
and showing videos of their capture... There is no way dude to know Russian soldiers here or there
from satellite photos ,such information is classified and Russian soldiers are not telling media
about their losses if there is any... So is fake news.. So screw those "sources" that refused to give their names.. about Russians killed.. no single video of any of them. .at best if there was any
truth in the story ,they will not know the nationality of the soldiers unless they have them captured
or dead bodies. but no videos exist ..so is fake.. This is same like those claims of 300 russian soldiers killed. just pure propaganda.. No videos of the bodies , then it didn't happen. US and the terror backed groups ,they will not miss an opportunity to show videos if they capture Russian soldiers.

GarryB wrote:

not sure of the value of the retort...

relevant to the thread... I assumed you were saying Trump was unpredictable... well predictably so... and I am saying that as early as next year he could be out, so his claims of being less interfering around the world and bringing american soldiers home might be the usual bullshit, but I think Sanders might make the same promise but why should we trust him to keep his word either... he endorsed clinton.

Unless clinton wins syria is probably going to become less and less important in the US politically because they are unlikely to get rid of Assad and even if a shot in the dark hits home and he is somehow murdered in that fine American backstabbing tradition of real democracy... who is to say his replacement wont be much worse for the US.

No the meaning is that the U.S is staying in Syria and keeping 1/3 of it under its control.... to keep its project and nose around as a spoiler, preventing the reunification of Syria for who knows how long and to aid in the systematic restructuring of governance away from central power in that very region (not just the Kurd area).

In other words, if no one pushes them to leave, they won't leave. Waiting on some grand deal, or Americans doing the "right thing" etc... dreams of dreams...

I mean American strategist (and their mouthpieces - senators/journalists/think tanks etc) are going around marketing that one of the very reasons they should stay is how cheap it has been for them to control 1/3 of Syria compared to their other misadventures and thus why they should stay. And clearly that has won support.

So they keep 200 in the NorthEast and their larger force forward deployed a few miles away in Iraq. Total and complete "Pullout"     NOT.

In essence, Hoping on Trump's "word" to solve the problem of American occupation of 1/3 of Syria is not a realistic solution and just a big fat pipedream. It will come down, to once again, the use of force forcing them out (by whom - in plural - well that's yet to be seen).

Take Afghanistan for example... the Taliban is forcing them to come to the table through force. The way things have been developing they'll have another Saigon if things drag further. They might prefer a Soviet style exit. At least some sort of version of it which they're negotiating. But as always, the Americans don't negotiate when they're in an advantageous position. They're negotiating due to fears of certain outcomes they have probably gamed and analyzed and thus are looking to fool its opponents by making deals with the devil itself.

Tsavo Lion wrote:

200 US Special forces together with 1600 US mercenaries" were killed in east ghouta

In the internet age, that would be impossible to hide in the US, as they all have parents, relatives, friends, girlfriends, or wives. So, don't trust those who write unconfirmed made up rumors.

That also goes for the "300 - 600 dead Russians".

They gave a total of 12 names, and some of them were Bulgarian and from some Stan countries.  Yet not a single bit of info about all the other proclaimed dead. No photos either.

What was even more funny, is they use some kind of audio clip from a proclaimed Cossack guy from some village in Russia which everyone calls a wacko, as evidence as he is saying "oh God, we lost soany, blah blah blah" even though the guy wasn't even in Syria or even has any Cossack background or affiliation. All self proclaimed.

So yeah, all fake news.

You can't even hide hundreds of dead children in a building fire. That is the most retarded comment I have ever heard in my entire life. Anyone who even remotely believes that, needs to be shot.

That also goes for the "300 - 600 dead Russians".

You can't blame US to believe that. I mean they they already believe they are the choosen poeple by god. They believe their gov really brings democracy in countries like iraq and afgh. They believe they are controlled by some sort of aliens.

Normally they should have said 30 000 to 60 000 russians were killed in the attack. The fact that they only said 300-600 means they are healing

Isos wrote:

That also goes for the "300 - 600 dead Russians".

You can't blame US to believe that. I mean they they already believe they are the choosen poeple by god. They believe their gov really brings democracy in countries like iraq and afgh. They believe they are controlled by some sort of aliens.

Normally they should have said 30 000 to 60 000 russians were killed in the attack. The fact that they only said 300-600 means they are healing

Regardless, the amount of people peddling it with no evidence other than some no name general saying, Pompus Pompeo and a list of 12 (YES, only 12) names and a recording of a moron in Russia as evidence. They at least gave a name of the Russian retard and the Russian media found him and he does look like he belongs in a psych ward.

Oh well. Americans are dumb as shit

Isos wrote:

That also goes for the "300 - 600 dead Russians".

You can't blame US to believe that. I mean they they already believe they are the choosen poeple by god. They believe their gov really brings democracy in countries like iraq and afgh.

Not all of them believe propaganda from the Bush era. Ms voted for Trump who kept saying that "we shouldn't be spending $Ts overseas & getting nothing in return. Let's make America great again!"

Tsavo Lion wrote:

Isos wrote:

That also goes for the "300 - 600 dead Russians".

You can't blame US to believe that. I mean they they already believe they are the choosen poeple by god. They believe their gov really brings democracy in countries like iraq and afgh.

Not all of them believe propaganda from the Bush era. Ms voted for Trump who kept saying that "we shouldn't be spending $Ts overseas & getting nothing in return. Let's make America great again!"

Ho yeah i forgot that ! They believe their presidents have power.

VP Chaney had even more power than Bush.
Trump is pushing for leaving Syria & hope he'll succeed. He also wanted more $ to garrison NATO & SK, but got a lot le$$. He even said that the US could leave NATO.