Shoigu about 2020
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/64684
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dino00 wrote:"24 Pantsir-S combat vehicles, have been fielded".
Shoigu about 2020
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/64684
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In this region, in recent years, Poland has taken a course of rapidly increasing its air defense capabilities. In 2020, the country's authorities announced the signing of documents for the purchase of 32 F-35A fighters from the United States. The life cycle contract will cost $ 4.6 billion. The start of deliveries is scheduled for 2024. Now the country's Air Force is equipped with three dozen MiG-29s and fifty light F-16s received from the United States, as well as a small number of Su-22 shock units.
The US State Department has already announced that the receipt of fifth generation fighters will be a "quantum leap" for Poland in combat capabilities. They will have to replace obsolete Soviet-era aircraft. High-precision long-range weapons continue to be purchased for them.
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Popular Mechanics wrote:
The U.S. Air Force scooped up a Russian-made surface-to-air missile system in June 2020, flying it out of Libya in a C-17 transport.
Libyan government forces captured the Pantsir S-1 weapon system and turned it over to the Americans.
Pantsir is a truck-mounted, low-altitude air defense system used in Syria, Libya, and other war zones.
Last summer, a secretive U.S. military flight to Libya spirited away one of Russia’s most modern air defense weapon systems. The U.S. Air Force flew the Pantsir S-1 surface-to-air missile system, which Libyan government forces captured, out of the country on a military transport flight for parts unknown.
The acquisition of a Pantsir, designed to defend against U.S. and NATO aircraft, is a windfall to the U.S. intelligence community.
According to The Times, the secret mission to Libya took place in June 2020. The Pantsir, which the United Arab Emirates bought from Russia and gave to the Libyan government, had been abandoned and then captured by a local militia. Government forces eventually got the system back and transferred the system to a base hosting Turkish military forces.
From there, Over Defense explains, the Palantir was shipped to Zuwara air base. Then, a U.S. Air Force C-17 Globemaster III transport flew into the airport, picked up the truck-mounted system, and flew it north to Ramstein Air Base in Germany. That's when the trail went cold.
The Pantsir S-1 is one of Russia’s first post-Cold War, low-level air-defense systems. The system consists of 12 57E6 short-range, radar- and electro-optically-guided surface-to-air missiles with a maximum range of 11 miles. The weapons load is rounded out with a pair of 30-millimeter, radar-directed autocannons. The entire system sits on the bed of a 8x8 truck chassis.
The Pantsir is meant to provide air defense to headquarters, supply units, air bases, and other important sites from threats including low-level fixed wing aircraft, helicopters, drones, and even cruise missiles.
While Pantsir has been widely exported, Russian military forces still use it, making it a system U.S. and NATO forces could face in wartime. U.S. forces have reportedly gained access to Pantsirs in UAE military service during joint exercises, but the Libyan system is the first one the U.S. military and intelligence community get to keep.
The weapon may likely end up at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, the home of the U.S. Air Force’s National Air and Space Intelligence Center, which maintains a Foreign Material Exploitation center for the express purpose of studying captured, stolen, or otherwise-acquired foreign weapon systems.
The system will likely be dismantled and rebuilt, and the knowledge of how Pantsir engages enemy aircraft will help protect U.S. and allied airplanes in the future.
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The system will likely be dismantled and rebuilt, and the knowledge of how Pantsir engages enemy aircraft will help protect U.S. and allied airplanes in the future.
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magnumcromagnon wrote:Pantsir-SM's new intercepting missiles can reliably engage and defeat targets from 40km distance:
https://www.russiadefence.net/t7159p175-russian-defence-against-drone-swarms#314686
Also...
Pro-West/NATO media: Pantsir is terrible against drones!!!!1!!1!!
NATO think tanks/intelligence: Pantsir is an excellent platform to defeat and defend against drones.
https://www.russiadefence.net/t7159p175-russian-defence-against-drone-swarms#314689
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franco wrote:American military commander named the number of Bayraktars destroyed by the Russian Shell in Libya
In the spring-summer of 2020, Turkish media enthusiastically described the destruction of "dozens" of Pantsir-C1 air defense missile systems in Libya. However, the American military commander Jeff Jaworski found out the true state of affairs and named both the number of irretrievably lost air defense missile systems and the number of Turkish Bayraktar TB2 reconnaissance drones destroyed by a Russian-made air defense system.
According to a journalist from the United States, he conducted a thorough investigation, including using information from the Pentagon. As a result, he found that Ankara greatly exaggerated its successes and spoke extremely modestly, and even sparingly, about its losses. But an impartial journalist calculated that the Turks destroyed 9 units of these air defense missile systems, which were under the control of Arab operators.
In Libya, Pantsir-C1 personnel acted more efficiently than in Syria, they already knew the tactics of Bayraktar attacks
- the meticulous journalist drew attention.
According to him, 47 units of Bayraktar TB2 were shot down in Libya by "Shells", and now these UAVs no longer seem so invincible. The American also studied the financial side of the issue. 9 air defense missile systems cost $ 118 million, and 47 UAVs - $ 245 million.
We remind you that another civil war in Libya began in the spring of 2014. On the one side of the confrontation is the country's official parliament (sits in the east in Benghazi) and its Libyan National Army, led by Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar, and on the other, the Libyan National Accord Government (sits in the west in Tripoli), consisting of Islamists and supported by the UN and Turkey ...
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franco wrote:American military commander named the number of Bayraktars destroyed by the Russian Shell in Libya
Isos wrote:Well keeping a defensive position means loosing stuff to attacks. No matter how good the systems are.
If they used the su-24M and mig-29s to attack the bases from where the TB2 operated they wouldn't have lost any pantsir.
Russians are focusing too much on their defensive systems and not enough on attacking. They are stick with the idea of creating defensive bubbles when they should create AD that can hold untill attacking weapons attack enemy systems.
They need more advanced attacking systems. The more you destroy enemy stuff the less your defensive weapons will be needed.
Advantage of TB2 is that they choose when to attack and where. Pantsir on the opposite need to be 24/7 on alert. Workload is huge when you're on defensive. Attacking weapons like su-24 will destroy more in 1 or 2 hours by attacking the enemy base where TB2 are than a pantsir in 1 week.