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Type 075 landing helicopter dock (LHD)
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First blurry pictures of Chinas new Amphibious warfare ship, the type 075.
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China’s First Helicopter Carrier Type 075 Nearing Completion (Photos)
New photos have emerged from the Shanghai shipyard where China’s newest warship, the Type 075 amphibious assault ship, is nearing completion.
At the China State Shipbuilding Corporation’s Hudong-Zhonghua shipyard on Shanghai’s Huangpu River, a giant is taking shape: the Type 075 landing helicopter dock (LHD) is nearing completion.
New photos on social media show the ship’s flight deck has been installed as well as its command island, giving it the definitive silhouette of an aircraft carrier for the first time. However, this 32,000-ton vessel will carry helicopters and amphibious landing craft, not fixed-wing J-15s or FC-31s like its bigger cousin, the Type 001A.
The Type 075 is roughly analogous to the United States Marine Corps’ Wasp-class amphibious assault ships, capable of supporting an amphibious assault by thousands of troops. It also has a hangar for holding up to 28 helicopters that can land at six points on its deck.
Sputnik previously reported how the new warship, which might be followed by up to two others in its class, is part of a burgeoning fleet of amphibious assault vessels capable of mounting a serious threat to maritime areas across the East and South China Seas. By the time the Type 075 hits the water, which might be by the end of the year, according to Defense News, the People’s Liberation Army Navy’s eighth Type 071 landing platform dock (LPD) will be ready as well.
The PLAN has reorganized its paltry Marine Corps, planning on more than tripling its previous size from two to seven brigades, according to US defense analysts. A CCTV report this past April confirmed the branch had accomplished a size-increasing milestone in time for the 70th anniversary of the PLAN’s foundation, but made no comment as to what that size was. It’s estimated that the goal, however, is to eventually have 30,000 marines under arms.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201908261076646446-chinas-first-helicopter-carrier-type-075-nearing-completion-photos/
New photos have emerged from the Shanghai shipyard where China’s newest warship, the Type 075 amphibious assault ship, is nearing completion.
At the China State Shipbuilding Corporation’s Hudong-Zhonghua shipyard on Shanghai’s Huangpu River, a giant is taking shape: the Type 075 landing helicopter dock (LHD) is nearing completion.
New photos on social media show the ship’s flight deck has been installed as well as its command island, giving it the definitive silhouette of an aircraft carrier for the first time. However, this 32,000-ton vessel will carry helicopters and amphibious landing craft, not fixed-wing J-15s or FC-31s like its bigger cousin, the Type 001A.
The Type 075 is roughly analogous to the United States Marine Corps’ Wasp-class amphibious assault ships, capable of supporting an amphibious assault by thousands of troops. It also has a hangar for holding up to 28 helicopters that can land at six points on its deck.
Sputnik previously reported how the new warship, which might be followed by up to two others in its class, is part of a burgeoning fleet of amphibious assault vessels capable of mounting a serious threat to maritime areas across the East and South China Seas. By the time the Type 075 hits the water, which might be by the end of the year, according to Defense News, the People’s Liberation Army Navy’s eighth Type 071 landing platform dock (LPD) will be ready as well.
The PLAN has reorganized its paltry Marine Corps, planning on more than tripling its previous size from two to seven brigades, according to US defense analysts. A CCTV report this past April confirmed the branch had accomplished a size-increasing milestone in time for the 70th anniversary of the PLAN’s foundation, but made no comment as to what that size was. It’s estimated that the goal, however, is to eventually have 30,000 marines under arms.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201908261076646446-chinas-first-helicopter-carrier-type-075-nearing-completion-photos/
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Some more pictures, painted now and getting ready for launch.
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Here we go.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutton/2019/09/24/intelligence-suggests-imminent-launch-of-chinas-new-assault-carrier/#36bea3f21519
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Launched the first Chinese universal landing ship
On the morning of September 25, 2019, in Shanghai, at the Chinese Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard, a Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding Group company (part of the Shanghai Shipbuilding Company of the China State Shipbuilding Corporation China Shipbuilding State Corporation - CSSC), a launch ceremony (actually began to fill the dry a construction dock for the subsequent withdrawal of a ship from it) the lead project 075 universal landing ship under construction for the PLA Navy. The name of the ship has not yet been announced.
Launching ceremony (removal from a dry construction dock) of the project 075 universal landing craft under construction for the PLA Navy at the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard of the Chinese shipbuilding company of the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding Group, part of the China State Shipbuilding Corporation China Shipbuilding State Corporation (CSSC) . Shanghai, 09.25.2019 (c) Li Tang / chinadaily.com.cn
Project 075 Universal Landing Ship (UDC) is being built for the PLA Navy at the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard since 2016, commissioning is expected in 2021. UDC of project 075 is a large unit comparable in size in its class with UDC of the US Navy. The length of the UDC of project 075 is, according to various sources, from 235 to 250 m, and the total displacement, according to unofficial Chinese sources, is about 36 thousand tons. American UDC of types Tarawa, Wasp and America have a length of 254-257 m and a total displacement of 40 to 46 thousand tons. Recently launched the Italian UDC Trieste has a length of 245 m and a total displacement of 33 thousand tons.
According to a number of reports, the construction of two more 075 ships of the project began at the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3785410.html
On the morning of September 25, 2019, in Shanghai, at the Chinese Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard, a Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding Group company (part of the Shanghai Shipbuilding Company of the China State Shipbuilding Corporation China Shipbuilding State Corporation - CSSC), a launch ceremony (actually began to fill the dry a construction dock for the subsequent withdrawal of a ship from it) the lead project 075 universal landing ship under construction for the PLA Navy. The name of the ship has not yet been announced.
Launching ceremony (removal from a dry construction dock) of the project 075 universal landing craft under construction for the PLA Navy at the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard of the Chinese shipbuilding company of the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding Group, part of the China State Shipbuilding Corporation China Shipbuilding State Corporation (CSSC) . Shanghai, 09.25.2019 (c) Li Tang / chinadaily.com.cn
Project 075 Universal Landing Ship (UDC) is being built for the PLA Navy at the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard since 2016, commissioning is expected in 2021. UDC of project 075 is a large unit comparable in size in its class with UDC of the US Navy. The length of the UDC of project 075 is, according to various sources, from 235 to 250 m, and the total displacement, according to unofficial Chinese sources, is about 36 thousand tons. American UDC of types Tarawa, Wasp and America have a length of 254-257 m and a total displacement of 40 to 46 thousand tons. Recently launched the Italian UDC Trieste has a length of 245 m and a total displacement of 33 thousand tons.
According to a number of reports, the construction of two more 075 ships of the project began at the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3785410.html
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First ship now launched.
Nice picture standing next to the Type-71.
Nice picture standing next to the Type-71.
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This is real power. Russia will not build such a ship. If he starts construction, he will not finish it for the next 10 years . China will build one every two years.
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Russia could sink it with one Onyx missile... they likely wouldn't even need Zircon or Kh-32 or Kinzhal.
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With 3 of them, 1 & sometimes 2 can patrol the SC Sea or deploy elsewhere.
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Arrow wrote:This is real power. Russia will not build such a ship. If he starts construction, he will not finish it for the next 10 years . China will build one every two years.
You're the one that should be worried about it
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GarryB wrote:Russia could sink it with one Onyx missile... they likely wouldn't even need Zircon or Kh-32 or Kinzhal.
They will have refurbished air/naval bases on Matua & already have bases in the Arctic to protect the Kurils & the NSR.
A few Il-76s, An-12/22/72/124s, Mi-8/17/26/38s & Ka-29/32s can deploy more VDV &/ Marines/SF than a UDK, even if it'll take 10 years to build it.
http://www.military-today.com/helicopters/kamov_ka29_helix_b.htm
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I got to say, reading the Russian fans comments here is laughable some times.
The whole point is that China is moving ahead with light speed with its shipbuilding program. What Russia can do with its missiles is not the issue.
And why should Russia build such vessels on thier own if they can be sunk by a single missile anyway...what a waste of resources. And same goes for ther Americans, the Japanse, the Italians, the French and so on....., Give us a break.
This is Great news for the PLAN, good for them!
The whole point is that China is moving ahead with light speed with its shipbuilding program. What Russia can do with its missiles is not the issue.
And why should Russia build such vessels on thier own if they can be sunk by a single missile anyway...what a waste of resources. And same goes for ther Americans, the Japanse, the Italians, the French and so on....., Give us a break.
This is Great news for the PLAN, good for them!
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It only confirms that in order to have a well balanced navy, strong economy & then the political will is needed.
For the 1st time since the end of the Ming Dynasty, the PRC is now in a position to build & maintain it.
For the 1st time since the end of the Ming Dynasty, the PRC is now in a position to build & maintain it.
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This is Great news for the PLAN, good for them!
Not sure about that. They have hundreds of new ships and they never deploy them further than their islands.
There is no real strategy for their navy. No SSBN strategy. No naval bases aboard to protect. No friendly country to protect. And their shiping lines are so important for the world that no one will try to touch them, be there the navy or not.
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Isos wrote:This is Great news for the PLAN, good for them!
Not sure about that. They have hundreds of new ships and they never deploy them further than their islands.
There is no real strategy for their navy. No SSBN strategy. No naval bases aboard to protect. No friendly country to protect. And their shiping lines are so important for the world that no one will try to touch them, be there the navy or not.
Agreed, chincoms have lot's of flashy new naval stuff but are too chicken to take it out of garage
They are too scared to even keep tabs on French and UK when they sail those glorified Ro-Ro boats next to them supposedly Chinese islands, instead they just file diplomatic protests
They are like middle-aged geezer who buys a Porsche to look tough but is too afraid to drive it because he is afraid someone might challenge him on drag race at first intersection so he just keeps it parked in the driveway like a little b*tch
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The whole point is that China is moving ahead with light speed with its shipbuilding program. What Russia can do with its missiles is not the issue.
Light speed would be an exaggeration, but they certainly have made impressive in the last decade or so, but the point I was making is that one helicopter carrier makes very little difference to Russia... the US have 13 super carriers, and their marines have rather a lot of their own carriers bigger than this, so to suggest China building one of what the US already has dozens of is empty and pointless.
If China wants to attack Russia with this vessel, Russia wont surrender because they currently have no equivalent, and they certainly wont build some of their own to match China so they can be big and powerful on internet forums.
Ships are tools and are required for certain problems and jobs... on their own they are useless, they need support ships and subs and infrastructure... not to mention capable platforms to operate from them.
Waving it around the internet claiming China is militarily strong is laughable.
These sorts of vessels with the right support vessels project power, so it will make Chinese forces more effective and able to do things they couldn't do before, and of course they could surprise us all like Russia did in Syria and the Houthies did a few days ago in Saudi Arabia... but until then... it looks pretty, but lets wait and see how it goes before we make claims about the Chinese.
And why should Russia build such vessels on thier own if they can be sunk by a single missile anyway...what a waste of resources
They might build something like it, though probably smaller because something that size is just too big for the helicopter carrier role for them.
They wont be using it against China or the US or NATO most likely... or if they do they wont be using it again anyway.
Such a vessel is useless for China against Russia... just like the equivalent US Marine carriers would also be useless against Russia... just as a Russian equivalent would be useless against China or the US.
I think Lsos and Papa are being too harsh... as you mention they have a rapidly growing fleet, but they need to develop doctrine and tactics and what they expect from their navy... is it all geared for the invasion of Taiwan, or are they thinking about something else... they need to decide and work it out for themselves.
This new vessel would be a multirole platform... it will be interesting to see what they do with it.
Would be interesting to see them in an exercise with the Russian Naval Infantry.
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If u compare it with other nation like Russia it might as well be called lightspeed.
Again launching this single vessel has nothing to do with attacking Russia or anybody else. It has to do with China building a blue-water navy and how fast they are doing it.
12 years ago the only had medium sized landing ship, now they have 7-8 large LPD and by 2021 probably 2-3 LHDs. Add to this 3 aircraft carrier in a few years.
Again launching this single vessel has nothing to do with attacking Russia or anybody else. It has to do with China building a blue-water navy and how fast they are doing it.
12 years ago the only had medium sized landing ship, now they have 7-8 large LPD and by 2021 probably 2-3 LHDs. Add to this 3 aircraft carrier in a few years.
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PapaDragon wrote:
Agreed, chincoms have lot's of flashy new naval stuff but are too chicken to take it out of garage
They are too scared to even keep tabs on French and UK when they sail those glorified Ro-Ro boats next to them supposedly Chinese islands, instead they just file diplomatic protests
They are like middle-aged geezer who buys a Porsche to look tough but is too afraid to drive it because he is afraid someone might challenge him on drag race at first intersection so he just keeps it parked in the driveway like a little b*tch.
Well French and UK ship passing by those islands isn't better than keeping them at port. At the end of the day China is grabing territories with its fishers and coast guard which are much more agressive than the navy and don't think twice before destroying foreign ships.
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China’s amphibious assault ship ready for action
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Interesting article Tsavo... the title says it is ready for action but the body of text says it is only just being launched and hasn't even fitted out yet.
Hahaha... producing them rapidly is one thing... are they any good is another...
The US is having all sorts of problems with its new ships from a carrier which can't launch any of its fighters because its EMALS cats don't work, but then ammo can't be lifted to the deck either... and there are likely a few other problems still to be found, though the Zumwalt fiasco, or the LCS saga... but then British destroyers that can't operate in warm water areas or their engines overheat, and of course their new carrier taking on water and limping back to base...
Lots of navies with lots of problems... perhaps taking longer but getting it right makes more sense than pumping out as many ships as you can.
A navy needs a purpose... you can't justify affording one otherwise.
So they are either intending to engage in US style piracy, in which case an enormous fleet will put them in a good position, or they are going to have a full garage with some interesting hot rods in their collection but they don't have a drivers licence... so it is just expensive eye candy.
Regarding the ship itself... it seems to be sitting very low in the water for a ship that is not carrying a combat load...
If u compare it with other nation like Russia it might as well be called lightspeed.
Hahaha... producing them rapidly is one thing... are they any good is another...
The US is having all sorts of problems with its new ships from a carrier which can't launch any of its fighters because its EMALS cats don't work, but then ammo can't be lifted to the deck either... and there are likely a few other problems still to be found, though the Zumwalt fiasco, or the LCS saga... but then British destroyers that can't operate in warm water areas or their engines overheat, and of course their new carrier taking on water and limping back to base...
Lots of navies with lots of problems... perhaps taking longer but getting it right makes more sense than pumping out as many ships as you can.
Again launching this single vessel has nothing to do with attacking Russia or anybody else.
A navy needs a purpose... you can't justify affording one otherwise.
12 years ago the only had medium sized landing ship, now they have 7-8 large LPD and by 2021 probably 2-3 LHDs. Add to this 3 aircraft carrier in a few years.
So they are either intending to engage in US style piracy, in which case an enormous fleet will put them in a good position, or they are going to have a full garage with some interesting hot rods in their collection but they don't have a drivers licence... so it is just expensive eye candy.
Regarding the ship itself... it seems to be sitting very low in the water for a ship that is not carrying a combat load...
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GarryB wrote:Interesting article Tsavo... the title says it is ready for action but the body of text says it is only just being launched and hasn't even fitted out yet.
If u compare it with other nation like Russia it might as well be called lightspeed.
Hahaha... producing them rapidly is one thing... are they any good is another...
The US is having all sorts of problems with its new ships from a carrier which can't launch any of its fighters because its EMALS cats don't work, but then ammo can't be lifted to the deck either... and there are likely a few other problems still to be found, though the Zumwalt fiasco, or the LCS saga... but then British destroyers that can't operate in warm water areas or their engines overheat, and of course their new carrier taking on water and limping back to base...
Lots of navies with lots of problems... perhaps taking longer but getting it right makes more sense than pumping out as many ships as you can.
Again launching this single vessel has nothing to do with attacking Russia or anybody else.
A navy needs a purpose... you can't justify affording one otherwise.
12 years ago the only had medium sized landing ship, now they have 7-8 large LPD and by 2021 probably 2-3 LHDs. Add to this 3 aircraft carrier in a few years.
So they are either intending to engage in US style piracy, in which case an enormous fleet will put them in a good position, or they are going to have a full garage with some interesting hot rods in their collection but they don't have a drivers licence... so it is just expensive eye candy.
Regarding the ship itself... it seems to be sitting very low in the water for a ship that is not carrying a combat load...
Just becouse you dont understand the purpose of the Chinese Fleet im sure the Chinese are well aware of them them self.
And we should not forget that China tested alot of thier systems in the 00s before starting any mass production. The first Type-52C(D) destroyer for example was launched back in 2003 but massproduction wasnt started untill 2012-13. Plenty of time to fix and update any fault systems.
Same for the Type-54 frigate, the Type-071 LPD and so on.