Turkish-Cyprus (Greece) tensions

The Ottoman wrote:Only third states and weapon sellers are benefitting from these tenions, like France and US.

Both parties should talk and solve this diplomaticly and give up their maximalist claims.

Main problem is

- that Turkey has the longest coast in the East Med, but get the most minimum share of the sea.

- Greece claims 40.000 km'2 EEZ for a tiny island (Meis/Kastellorizo) with a square of 12km'2.

- The distance of this island to Greece is 580 km. And to Turkey only 2km. Greece is claiming the whole distance in the sea (580 km long) between their mainland and this island as theirs.

- Because of this a Turkish cruise ship could not travel between Antalya and Marmara without Greek naval police.

- Its like the UK claiming the whole Atlantic Ocean because of the Falklands or USA claiming the whole Pacific because of Hawai.

- The Turkish-Greek conflict is similar to the French-Brittish conflict years ago. The UK claimed the whole Channel because of some tiny Channel Island. France rejected this and brought the case to the International Court. The Court decided that the Channel Islands should not have a EEZ. France won this case.

Talking solves everything.

Tai Hai Chen wrote:Greece and Turkey been at odds since Trojan war late Byzantium times. It's nothing new.

George1 wrote:

Tai Hai Chen wrote:Greece and Turkey been at odds since Trojan war late Byzantium times. It's nothing new.

there were no turks on earth in Trojar war era

Isos wrote:Where did you saw that ? They never threaten each other like that.

Erdogan has the support of the US and NATO has to close its eyes on him because of the black sea access.

France has no more real influence in eastern mediteranean. They let the kurds get killed. Syria, Egypt don't like them. Israel neither. Lebanon is under Iran control. Jordania is part of US.

Isos wrote:True back in 1920 maybe.

Not the case anymore.

Erdogan is a good example. As soon french warships turned up, he fucked off.

Arabs, Turks, Iranians (same shit, different name), need to be hold on a short leash. They are born servants and need steict and firm orders. If they dont get that, they run wild.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Aristide wrote:

Isos wrote:Where did you saw that ? They never threaten each other like that.

Erdogan has the support of the US and NATO has to close its eyes on him because of the black sea access.

France has no more real influence in eastern mediteranean. They let the kurds get killed. Syria, Egypt don't like them. Israel neither. Lebanon is under Iran control. Jordania is part of US.

Russian propaganda

1. France is the main power in the mediterranean

2. We dont need Turkey to have full black sea acess. Turkey is arab muslim shithole. Evryone can cross the bosporus if wanted, when the turk gets to bold, he needs a boot on his neck and he does as ordered

3. Kurds a pawns. Egypt depends on us. Lebanon is our colony. Iran is a bancrupted, isolated muslim shithole. What control do they have? They cant even comtrol tjeir own country. The Ayatollah is busy to get luxury handbags for his wife in Paris. Its a deeply corrupted regime one can easily buy.

1. That is subjective really.

2. Long as they obey the convention yes they can.

3. Macron never threatened Turkey with the use of Nukes.

4. I have not heard at all in the military about Erodo making threats against the french carrier. Not that I doubt he is mad enough to do it.

5. Kurds are pawns yes but not your pawns, they are our pawns. Lebanon isn't a french colony and if for giggles even it was, your letting Isreal screw with your "colony" daily. In what sense does Eygpt depend on you?.

Isos wrote:

Erdogan is a good example. As soon french warships turned up, he fucked off.

Last time I checked French couldn't even investigate a civilian ship there and turkish exploration shipps were still busy digging off Cyprus untouched.

France doesn't have the capacity to fight Turkey near its shores. They could wipe out any french frigate there and France can't loose more than 2 ships against such country. Not enough ships then to protect french EEZ which is huge.

It might be the main power but that doesn't mean it would win in a fight near Turkey. With Greece help maybe but alone no.

Arabs, Turks, Iranians (same shit, different name), need to be hold on a short leash. They are born servants and need steict and firm orders. If they dont get that, they run wild.

Outside of defenceless countries like Mali, France needs US back up for anything else. No real military strenght to fight a big army.

Isos wrote:Turkey can get nuks from Pakistan quickly if France threaten to use nuks.

Stop talking BS.

Aristide wrote:

Isos wrote:Turkey can get nuks from Pakistan quickly if France threaten to use nuks.

Stop talking BS.

Turkey can get nothing. Have you ever been there?

Stop to take muslim shitholes serious.

Pakistan nukes are under US controle. You dont think the world lets those goat herders decide over such weapons. And if a shithole like Pakistan just looks in a funny way towards the civilized world, they get nuked too.

Erdogan is like Hitler. And like Hitler such behavior must be crushed early on. Chamberlain did not work well. Appeasement never can be an option.

Aristide wrote:

Of course we would win a war against Turkey. What fight do you think would start when we nuke Istanbul? The Turks cant fight. When you start a show of force, they always run.

Beside that, you dont need a big army to kill off muslim regimes.

Airman wrote:

Aristide wrote:

Of course we would win a war against Turkey. What fight do you think would start when we nuke Istanbul? The Turks cant fight. When you start a show of force, they always run.

Beside that, you dont need a big army to kill off muslim regimes.

When we fought against France, which is 100 years ago, you were the ones who ran away, not us.

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:

Airman wrote:

Aristide wrote:

Of course we would win a war against Turkey. What fight do you think would start when we nuke Istanbul? The Turks cant fight. When you start a show of force, they always run.

Beside that, you dont need a big army to kill off muslim regimes.

When we fought against France, which is 100 years ago, you were the ones who ran away, not us.

everybody can win against france (unless they have a Corsican born Italian (Napoleone's father was tuscanian and his mother was a corsican born genovese who never learned french) leading them)


And i believe pious Christian virgin maidens are not anymore available either

We brought al Sisi into power. Egypt depends on our money, weapons and support. When we say "jump", egypt asks how high.

Aristide wrote:

Isos wrote:

Erdogan is a good example. As soon french warships turned up, he fucked off.

Last time I checked French couldn't even investigate a civilian ship there and turkish exploration shipps were still busy digging off Cyprus untouched.

France doesn't have the capacity to fight Turkey near its shores. They could wipe out any french frigate there and France can't loose more than 2 ships against such country. Not enough ships then to protect french EEZ which is huge.

It might be the main power but that doesn't mean it would win in a fight near Turkey. With Greece help maybe but alone no.

Arabs, Turks, Iranians (same shit, different name), need to be hold on a short leash. They are born servants and need steict and firm orders. If they dont get that, they run wild.

Outside of defenceless countries like Mali, France needs US back up for anything else. No real military strenght to fight a big army.

Of course we would win a war against Turkey. What fight do you think would start when we nuke Istanbul? The Turks cant fight. When you start a show of force, they always run.

Beside that, you dont need a big army to kill off muslim regimes.

ahmedfire wrote:Bad news for Turkey .

Greece-Egypt deal on Exclusive Economic Zone posted by the UN