Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

mnztr wrote:Been reading about the evil shit the US is doing to try and stop Arctic LNG 2. Seems they have stuck the Koreans with 3 Arc 7 class tankers that are useless else where. Why won't Korea just sell them to a Chinese shipping company that will move LNG from Russia to China? Seems this would be pretty much sanction proof at the trade can happen in Yuan. China can even pay for the ships in Yuan which Chinese/Korean trade can easily absorb. Trade is like 150B between the two.

Arc7 Ice-Class LNG Tankers, Russia

Zvezda Shipbuilding Complex is building 15 next-generation Arc7 ice-class LNG tankers to serve Russia's Arctic LNG 2 project.

Russian shipbuilding company, Zvezda Shipbuilding Complex, is building a series of 15 next-generation Arc7 ice-class liquefied natural gas (LNG) tankers, for PJSC Novatek’s Arctic LNG 2 project in Gydan Peninsula in northern Siberia, Russia.

The Arc7 ice-class LNG tanker fleet will form the core of the Arctic fleet to transport LNG from the Arctic LNG 2 project, and ensure year-round navigation along the Northern Sea Route, including its Eastern section, throughout the year. The vessels will supply LNG to the Asian Pacific region and boost the development of the Russian shipbuilding industry.

The new LNG tankers will have increased icebreaking and manoeuvring characteristics, compared to the existing fleet used by Novatek’s Yamal LNG project. The carriers will be registered under the Russian Federation and operated by a Russian crew.

Scheduled for delivery between 2023 and 2025, the new fleet of 15 Arc7 ice-class tankers will be owned and operated by Smart LNG, which was established as a joint venture (JV) between Novatek and Sovcomflot in September 2019. The vessels will be leased to Sovcomflot, under a long-term contract signed between the two companies.

https://www.ship-technology.com/projects/arc7-ice-class-lng-tanker/?cf-view

The propulsion units for the LNG tankers will be supplied by General Electric (GE). French engineering company, Gaztransport & Technigaz (GTT), is responsible for designing  tanks for the Arc7 LNG vessels.

I think the South Korean shipyards should just cancel the contracts due to customer payment noncompliance and sell the ships to however pays more

GarryB wrote:

I think the South Korean shipyards should just cancel the contracts due to customer payment noncompliance and sell the ships to however pays more

Not sure it could be that simple... it was South Korea that is breaking the contract... Russia is willing to pay... it is South Korea refusing payment because of pressure from the US.

This is all just an opportunity for Russian companies to expand into production of marine propulsion systems... there should be plenty of work moving forward on a range of different ship sizes and types moving forward...

Even if they get some made in China as a joint venture... for civilian vessels that would be useful for Russia and good money for China to offset the energy and food they will be buying from Russia.

lancelot wrote:
The ships are partly owned by the Japanese. They would have to sell their share of the ships to someone else. I think the South Korean shipyards should just cancel the contracts due to customer payment noncompliance and sell the ships to however pays more. But you can bet Uncle Scumbag will press the South Korean government for these ships never to be delivered to anyone.

lyle6 wrote:Zvezda's only sin is thinking too highly of their business partners in the west. They never thought that western companies would be retarded enough to overlook their own interest and commit economic seppuku. Because nothing kills a business like destroying the trust that you will hold up your own side of the bargain.

Instead, if Russia will take too long to make propulsions from own design, then they should localize production of Chinese ones and then look at improving it themselves. They could do like in automotive - 50% domestic and then increase that over time.

In a whole, a series constructed in Russia has really serious delays because of lacking azipods and thrusters.

GarryB wrote:

Instead, if Russia will take too long to make propulsions from own design, then they should localize production of Chinese ones and then look at improving it themselves. They could do like in automotive - 50% domestic and then increase that over time.

I disagree. Get the first ships made in China or buy Chinese engines for them so you can get the ships out into the water and working, and at the same time work on your own replacement engines... with less pressure... eventually when they are ready for operational testing put them on a ship you make extra and get some operational testing.

In a whole, a series constructed in Russia has really serious delays because of lacking azipods and thrusters.

These are electric motors and should be all Russian because there is a huge future for electric propulsion motors on land at sea and in the air and Russia has the technology and brains to make very good electric motors... and would benefit from using their own in their own ships.

Military ships moving forward are likely to transition to electric drive separating power generation with propulsion... so an electric drive ship might be gas turbine or diesel or it might be nuclear power generated... but the propulsion is electric motor.

Arctic LNG 2 project that required an additional 15.

Its kinda funny that they had ships like this in the 30's. I wonder why they went back to geared steam turbines and then gas turbines and now back to electric drive.

Novatek Arc7 LNG carriers are top notch. A really high end vessels, with lots of state of the art technologies taken from the best world's maritime suppliers.
But it is not that nobody have been building less advanced pieces to do the job.
They can go back any moment, and construct an LNG carrier with desired ice class, using conventional technology.