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Are these the equivalent to the MALD?magnumcromagnon wrote:The project of the unmanned complex of group use "Lightning"
The leadership of the military department gets acquainted with the new UAV. Photo of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
The domestic defense industry is developing new concepts and solutions in the field of unmanned aviation... Recently it became known that the Kronstadt company, which has already created several unmanned systems, is working on the so-called project. complex of group use. The draft design "Lightning" proposes the use of a "swarm" of several UAVs to support the manned aircraft.
According to sources ...
On February 26, a delegation from the Ministry of Defense visited the production site of the Kronstadt company in Moscow. The management of the department was shown production facilities and serial products under construction, as well as a number of new developments. In particular, an unknown aircraft-type drone was shown for the first time and a new code - "Lightning" - was sounded.
1 March RIA News has published an interesting message about the further development of unmanned technologies. With reference to an unnamed source in the defense industry, it is argued that Kronstadt is developing an unmanned complex with the possibility of group use and interaction with manned aircraft.
The project called "Lightning" is an initiative development of the "Kronstadt" company. A draft version of the project has been prepared, and development work will begin in the near future. Within the framework of the draft design, approximate tactical and technical characteristics have been determined, which, however, can be changed and adjusted during the development work. The complex is offered for solving a wide range of tasks associated with the use of weapons or electronic equipment.
On the official resources of "Kronstadt" there is no information about the "Lightning" project yet. RIA Novosti was also unable to receive comments about this development. Probably, such a project - if it exists - has not yet reached the stages at which it can be presented to the public.
Unknown layout
It is assumed that the new unknown model, shown to the leadership of the Ministry of Defense, is directly related to the "Lightning" project and shows the current views on the design of such a UAV. This is confirmed by the fact that the appearance of the product as a whole coincides with the characteristics and features disclosed by the source in the industry.
However, it could not have been the Molniya or even the UAV. In the report of Channel One, one can notice that the guidance system is mentioned on the information stand next to the model - and such a component is typical for cruise missiles, not for drones.
One way or another, the presented layout looks like a cruise missile, and its appearance speaks of the use of stealth technologies. The aircraft is built according to a normal scheme, it has a wing that can be folded in flight and a V-shaped tail. The fuselage received a curved top surface and an almost flat bottom. The design of the bow indicates the use of a radio-transparent fairing. An air intake recessed into the fuselage is provided in the central part of the product. The nozzle is flat with a V-shaped cut.
Close-up layout. Nearby is a stand with interesting information. Frame from the reportage of the "First Channel"
A promising UAV should receive advanced electronic means capable of providing autonomous or remotely controlled flight, interaction with other equipment and the fulfillment of the assigned task. At the same time, the list of on-board devices and their capabilities have not yet been specified.
According to the source of RIA Novosti, the length of the Molniya vehicle will reach 1,5 m, and the wingspan will be 1,2 m. The weight of the product has not been disclosed, but the payload is indicated at the level of 5-7 kg. UAVs of this appearance can be transported by different carrier aircraft. In particular, it will be able to fit into the internal compartments of the Su-57 fighter.
According to the same source, the Molniya's turbojet propulsion system will provide a flight at a speed of 700-800 km / h. The flight range is hundreds of kilometers. The start will be carried out from the carrier. Landing method unknown.
Group application
The Molniya project proposes to transport light drones on carrier aircraft of various types. A wide range of vehicles is considered in this capacity - from promising Su-57 fighters to converted military transport aircraft. It is also possible to use light UAVs together with the heavy S-70 "Okhotnik". Obviously, different carriers will carry a different number of light drones, and this will affect the organization of combat work.
New drones are being developed for swarm use. Several vehicles must fly and perform the task together - independently or in interaction with a manned aircraft. Such functions are the main goal of the project, towards which all efforts will be directed.
The swarm concept provides for a constant exchange of data between individual UAVs and the control aircraft. This allows you to solve any assigned tasks and respond flexibly to various factors. In the event of a change in the situation or the loss of a drone, tasks can be redistributed between active vehicles, incl. in automatic mode and without operator participation.
It is assumed that the unmanned "swarm" of the "Lightning" complex will be able to conduct reconnaissance, electronic warfare, etc. The possibility of solving combat missions is also being considered - for this, drones will be able to carry out target designation or act as loitering ammunition. Small payload will most likely prevent them from becoming carriers weapons.
Perspective direction
Group use of UAVs and manned aircraft has obvious advantages and allows you to flexibly solve a wide range of tasks. As a result, projects of this kind are being worked out in a number of countries, and some of them have already been brought to flight tests of one kind or another. At the same time, such complexes have not yet been accepted for service.
View from a different angle, you can consider the design of the tail. Frame from the reportage of the "First Channel"
As follows from the latest news, in our country, work has also begun on an unmanned aerial complex for group use, intended for use in the troops. The draft design of the Molniya complex is already ready, and now its creators will have to carry out a full-fledged design.
It is not known how long the ROC stage will last, when the experienced Molniya UAVs will take to the air and how soon the group flights will begin. At the same time, there are reasons for both positive and negative forecasts. It should be noted that the Russian industry in general and the Kronstadt group in particular has solid experience in the creation of drones. It will contribute to the fastest solution of a number of engineering problems, which will have a positive effect on the overall timing of work on the "Lightning".
However, it must be remembered that in a group application system, the leading role is given not to components and assemblies, but to special software. It should ensure high autonomy of the UAV and its ability to interact with other combat units. As practice shows, creating software with all the necessary functions is a very difficult task and requires a lot of effort.
Given the complexity of such a project, it can be assumed that the development and testing of a combat-ready unmanned complex will take several years. The adoption of the "Lightning" in service should be expected in the middle of the decade. It will take several more years to build and supply the troops with a sufficient amount of equipment. Thus, in the second half of the twenties, a full-fledged combat-ready grouping of Su-57 aircraft and the Hunter and Molniya drones with the widest capabilities may appear as part of the Russian Aerospace Forces.
It is obvious that the Molniya project and other hypothetical developments of this class are of great interest to the armed forces. Accordingly, the order for the development and start of the design of such a complex is now exclusively a matter of time. According to the latest news, development work will begin shortly and such estimates look realistic.
https://en.topwar.ru/180494-proekt-bespilotnogo-kompleksa-gruppovogo-primenenija-molnija.html
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UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News #2
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Drone-assisted artillery fire adjustment — ammo expenditure cut by a factor of 10 at no loss of lethality.
Unmanned airborne target acquisition & designation platform — effectiveness is increased by a factor of 8 comparing to the standard-issue prec. wpns kit.
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limb wrote:Are these the equivalent to the MALD?magnumcromagnon wrote:The project of the unmanned complex of group use "Lightning"
The leadership of the military department gets acquainted with the new UAV. Photo of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
The domestic defense industry is developing new concepts and solutions in the field of unmanned aviation... Recently it became known that the Kronstadt company, which has already created several unmanned systems, is working on the so-called project. complex of group use. The draft design "Lightning" proposes the use of a "swarm" of several UAVs to support the manned aircraft.
According to sources ...
On February 26, a delegation from the Ministry of Defense visited the production site of the Kronstadt company in Moscow. The management of the department was shown production facilities and serial products under construction, as well as a number of new developments. In particular, an unknown aircraft-type drone was shown for the first time and a new code - "Lightning" - was sounded.
1 March RIA News has published an interesting message about the further development of unmanned technologies. With reference to an unnamed source in the defense industry, it is argued that Kronstadt is developing an unmanned complex with the possibility of group use and interaction with manned aircraft.
The project called "Lightning" is an initiative development of the "Kronstadt" company. A draft version of the project has been prepared, and development work will begin in the near future. Within the framework of the draft design, approximate tactical and technical characteristics have been determined, which, however, can be changed and adjusted during the development work. The complex is offered for solving a wide range of tasks associated with the use of weapons or electronic equipment.
On the official resources of "Kronstadt" there is no information about the "Lightning" project yet. RIA Novosti was also unable to receive comments about this development. Probably, such a project - if it exists - has not yet reached the stages at which it can be presented to the public.
Unknown layout
It is assumed that the new unknown model, shown to the leadership of the Ministry of Defense, is directly related to the "Lightning" project and shows the current views on the design of such a UAV. This is confirmed by the fact that the appearance of the product as a whole coincides with the characteristics and features disclosed by the source in the industry.
However, it could not have been the Molniya or even the UAV. In the report of Channel One, one can notice that the guidance system is mentioned on the information stand next to the model - and such a component is typical for cruise missiles, not for drones.
One way or another, the presented layout looks like a cruise missile, and its appearance speaks of the use of stealth technologies. The aircraft is built according to a normal scheme, it has a wing that can be folded in flight and a V-shaped tail. The fuselage received a curved top surface and an almost flat bottom. The design of the bow indicates the use of a radio-transparent fairing. An air intake recessed into the fuselage is provided in the central part of the product. The nozzle is flat with a V-shaped cut.
Close-up layout. Nearby is a stand with interesting information. Frame from the reportage of the "First Channel"
A promising UAV should receive advanced electronic means capable of providing autonomous or remotely controlled flight, interaction with other equipment and the fulfillment of the assigned task. At the same time, the list of on-board devices and their capabilities have not yet been specified.
According to the source of RIA Novosti, the length of the Molniya vehicle will reach 1,5 m, and the wingspan will be 1,2 m. The weight of the product has not been disclosed, but the payload is indicated at the level of 5-7 kg. UAVs of this appearance can be transported by different carrier aircraft. In particular, it will be able to fit into the internal compartments of the Su-57 fighter.
According to the same source, the Molniya's turbojet propulsion system will provide a flight at a speed of 700-800 km / h. The flight range is hundreds of kilometers. The start will be carried out from the carrier. Landing method unknown.
Group application
The Molniya project proposes to transport light drones on carrier aircraft of various types. A wide range of vehicles is considered in this capacity - from promising Su-57 fighters to converted military transport aircraft. It is also possible to use light UAVs together with the heavy S-70 "Okhotnik". Obviously, different carriers will carry a different number of light drones, and this will affect the organization of combat work.
New drones are being developed for swarm use. Several vehicles must fly and perform the task together - independently or in interaction with a manned aircraft. Such functions are the main goal of the project, towards which all efforts will be directed.
The swarm concept provides for a constant exchange of data between individual UAVs and the control aircraft. This allows you to solve any assigned tasks and respond flexibly to various factors. In the event of a change in the situation or the loss of a drone, tasks can be redistributed between active vehicles, incl. in automatic mode and without operator participation.
It is assumed that the unmanned "swarm" of the "Lightning" complex will be able to conduct reconnaissance, electronic warfare, etc. The possibility of solving combat missions is also being considered - for this, drones will be able to carry out target designation or act as loitering ammunition. Small payload will most likely prevent them from becoming carriers weapons.
Perspective direction
Group use of UAVs and manned aircraft has obvious advantages and allows you to flexibly solve a wide range of tasks. As a result, projects of this kind are being worked out in a number of countries, and some of them have already been brought to flight tests of one kind or another. At the same time, such complexes have not yet been accepted for service.
View from a different angle, you can consider the design of the tail. Frame from the reportage of the "First Channel"
As follows from the latest news, in our country, work has also begun on an unmanned aerial complex for group use, intended for use in the troops. The draft design of the Molniya complex is already ready, and now its creators will have to carry out a full-fledged design.
It is not known how long the ROC stage will last, when the experienced Molniya UAVs will take to the air and how soon the group flights will begin. At the same time, there are reasons for both positive and negative forecasts. It should be noted that the Russian industry in general and the Kronstadt group in particular has solid experience in the creation of drones. It will contribute to the fastest solution of a number of engineering problems, which will have a positive effect on the overall timing of work on the "Lightning".
However, it must be remembered that in a group application system, the leading role is given not to components and assemblies, but to special software. It should ensure high autonomy of the UAV and its ability to interact with other combat units. As practice shows, creating software with all the necessary functions is a very difficult task and requires a lot of effort.
Given the complexity of such a project, it can be assumed that the development and testing of a combat-ready unmanned complex will take several years. The adoption of the "Lightning" in service should be expected in the middle of the decade. It will take several more years to build and supply the troops with a sufficient amount of equipment. Thus, in the second half of the twenties, a full-fledged combat-ready grouping of Su-57 aircraft and the Hunter and Molniya drones with the widest capabilities may appear as part of the Russian Aerospace Forces.
It is obvious that the Molniya project and other hypothetical developments of this class are of great interest to the armed forces. Accordingly, the order for the development and start of the design of such a complex is now exclusively a matter of time. According to the latest news, development work will begin shortly and such estimates look realistic.
https://en.topwar.ru/180494-proekt-bespilotnogo-kompleksa-gruppovogo-primenenija-molnija.html
Based on speed and low payload I am assuming they can engage aircrafts. The coolest drone projects i want operational are the AR-10 and Fregat drones
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Source: strike drone "Thunder" will be able to control a swarm of ten drones " Lightning"
"Grom "will be able to use a wide range of weapons
MOSCOW, March 11. /TASS/. The advanced high-speed strike drone "Grom" will be able to control a swarm of ten strike drones "Molniya". This was reported to TASS by a source in the military-industrial complex.
"The Grom unmanned aerial vehicle developed by Kronshtadt, in addition to its own strike capabilities, will be equipped with the ability to control a swarm of ten Molniya strike drones launched from another aircraft carrier," the source said.
He clarified that until recently, the Lightning drone was named "piranha". TASS has no official confirmation of this information.
According to the Kronstadt company, the thunder drone's own strike capabilities are associated with the presence of four suspension points - two under the wing consoles and two inside the fuselage. According to official data, with a take-off weight of 7 tons, it will be able to deliver a payload weighing 1.3 tons to a range of 800 km.
"Grom "will be able to use a wide range of weapons. In particular, the Tactical missile armament Corporation is preparing air-to-surface missiles, the new product 85 air-guided missile, as well as the KAB-250 and KAB-500 guided aerial bombs.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/10876259
"Grom "will be able to use a wide range of weapons
MOSCOW, March 11. /TASS/. The advanced high-speed strike drone "Grom" will be able to control a swarm of ten strike drones "Molniya". This was reported to TASS by a source in the military-industrial complex.
"The Grom unmanned aerial vehicle developed by Kronshtadt, in addition to its own strike capabilities, will be equipped with the ability to control a swarm of ten Molniya strike drones launched from another aircraft carrier," the source said.
He clarified that until recently, the Lightning drone was named "piranha". TASS has no official confirmation of this information.
According to the Kronstadt company, the thunder drone's own strike capabilities are associated with the presence of four suspension points - two under the wing consoles and two inside the fuselage. According to official data, with a take-off weight of 7 tons, it will be able to deliver a payload weighing 1.3 tons to a range of 800 km.
"Grom "will be able to use a wide range of weapons. In particular, the Tactical missile armament Corporation is preparing air-to-surface missiles, the new product 85 air-guided missile, as well as the KAB-250 and KAB-500 guided aerial bombs.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/10876259
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LMFS wrote:Source: strike drone "Thunder" will be able to control a swarm of ten drones " Lightning"
A bit odd naming practice there...thunder controlling lightening. Should have been the other way around...
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No, it´s fitting. First "Lightning" strikes, then comes "Thunder" and drops a few bombs. 
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LMFS wrote:Source: strike drone "Thunder" will be able to control a swarm of ten drones " Lightning"
"Grom "will be able to use a wide range of weapons
MOSCOW, March 11. /TASS/. The advanced high-speed strike drone "Grom" will be able to control a swarm of ten strike drones "Molniya". This was reported to TASS by a source in the military-industrial complex.
"The Grom unmanned aerial vehicle developed by Kronshtadt, in addition to its own strike capabilities, will be equipped with the ability to control a swarm of ten Molniya strike drones launched from another aircraft carrier," the source said.
He clarified that until recently, the Lightning drone was named "piranha". TASS has no official confirmation of this information.
According to the Kronstadt company, the thunder drone's own strike capabilities are associated with the presence of four suspension points - two under the wing consoles and two inside the fuselage. According to official data, with a take-off weight of 7 tons, it will be able to deliver a payload weighing 1.3 tons to a range of 800 km.
"Grom "will be able to use a wide range of weapons. In particular, the Tactical missile armament Corporation is preparing air-to-surface missiles, the new product 85 air-guided missile, as well as the KAB-250 and KAB-500 guided aerial bombs.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/10876259
So, we have the following bundle: Su-57, the control link of 4 UAV "Thunder", each of which can, in turn, provide control of a swarm of up to 10 UAV"Lightning". Plus the C-70 "Hunter", which can be included in this chain as one of the command nodes. Multiply this by 76 (this is the minimum number of serial Su-57s that Russia will have at the turn of the 30s).
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Scorpius wrote:So, we have the following bundle: Su-57, the control link of 4 UAV "Thunder", each of which can, in turn, provide control of a swarm of up to 10 UAV"Lightning". Plus the C-70 "Hunter", which can be included in this chain as one of the command nodes. Multiply this by 76 (this is the minimum number of serial Su-57s that Russia will have at the turn of the 30s).
...or an Il-76 can release them in the dozens while other planes guide them. The whole point of a swarm is numbers and Western AD, being in many cases sector and altitude limited, not properly layered and little tested would be easy to overwhelm with fast, smart low flying weapons like Molniya. For most hardened targets it would be a couple of hypersonic missiles followed by a swarm of these small bugs and AD would be gone. Releasing them over an air base would mean, in case they can be equipped with cluster warheads, complete destruction of the air power stationed there. This weapon has serious possibilities.
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Source: strike drone "Grom" will be a carrier of high-precision missiles X-38
With a take-off weight of 7 tons, it will be able to deliver a payload weighing 1.3 tons to a range of 800 km.
MOSCOW, March 13. /TASS/. The advanced high-speed strike unmanned aerial vehicle Grom will be capable of carrying x-38 air - to-surface guided missiles. This was reported to TASS by a source in the military-industrial complex.
"The Grom unmanned aerial vehicle developed by Kronshtadt will be able to carry x-38 air - to-surface guided missiles in one of the variants of its own strike capabilities," the source said. TASS has no official confirmation of this information.
According to the Tactical missile armament Corporation, the X-38 missile has a modular design and, depending on the combat mission, is equipped with one of four homing heads. Its range reaches 70 km, and the flight speed is over 2 M. Several types of warheads have been developed for the missile, including high-explosive fragmentation and penetrating ones.
According to the company "Kronshtadt", its own strike capabilities of the drone "Thunder" are associated with the presence of four suspension points-two under the wing consoles and two inside the fuselage. According to official data, with a take-off weight of 7 tons, it will be able to deliver a payload weighing 1.3 tons to a range of 800 km.
"Grom "will be able to use a wide range of weapons, in particular the new aircraft guided missile "product 85", as well as guided bombs KAB-250 and KAB-500.
Earlier, a source in the military-industrial complex told TASS that the Thunder will be able to control a swarm of 10 Lightning strike drones.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/10895521
With a take-off weight of 7 tons, it will be able to deliver a payload weighing 1.3 tons to a range of 800 km.
MOSCOW, March 13. /TASS/. The advanced high-speed strike unmanned aerial vehicle Grom will be capable of carrying x-38 air - to-surface guided missiles. This was reported to TASS by a source in the military-industrial complex.
"The Grom unmanned aerial vehicle developed by Kronshtadt will be able to carry x-38 air - to-surface guided missiles in one of the variants of its own strike capabilities," the source said. TASS has no official confirmation of this information.
According to the Tactical missile armament Corporation, the X-38 missile has a modular design and, depending on the combat mission, is equipped with one of four homing heads. Its range reaches 70 km, and the flight speed is over 2 M. Several types of warheads have been developed for the missile, including high-explosive fragmentation and penetrating ones.
According to the company "Kronshtadt", its own strike capabilities of the drone "Thunder" are associated with the presence of four suspension points-two under the wing consoles and two inside the fuselage. According to official data, with a take-off weight of 7 tons, it will be able to deliver a payload weighing 1.3 tons to a range of 800 km.
"Grom "will be able to use a wide range of weapons, in particular the new aircraft guided missile "product 85", as well as guided bombs KAB-250 and KAB-500.
Earlier, a source in the military-industrial complex told TASS that the Thunder will be able to control a swarm of 10 Lightning strike drones.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/10895521
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The Grom drone will control a swarm of drones with the ability to change their tasks
As reported in the company "Kronshtadt", drones "Lightning" "will constantly communicate with each other and the carrier drone"
MOSCOW, March 15. /TASS/. The promising Russian unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) Grom will be able to control a swarm consisting of 10 small-sized Molniya drones in reconnaissance and strike configurations with the ability to change tasks for each member of the group. This was reported to TASS by a representative of Kronshtadt JSC, which develops Grom .
"The returned ones are reconnaissance drones. Shock, as in the case of barraging ammunition, are kamikazes. "Molniya will constantly communicate with each other and the carrier drone, "the representative of Kronshtadt informed.
According to him, "Lightning" is optimized for use as part of a swarm of drones. "Lightning has a constant exchange of data between UAVS. It is possible to change tasks for each member of the pack. Transfer of leadership roles and interchangeability. At the same time, thanks to artificial intelligence, the task is performed by a group without constant communication with the carrier aircraft, " the company said.
Earlier, a TASS source reported that the Grom will be able to control a swarm of 10 Molniya strike drones, and in one of the variants of its own strike capabilities, it will be able to carry x-38 air - to-surface guided missiles.
According to the Kronstadt company, the thunder drone's own strike capabilities are associated with the presence of four suspension points - two under the wing consoles and two inside the fuselage. According to official data, with a take-off weight of 7 tons, it will be able to deliver a payload weighing 1.3 tons to a range of 800 km. "Grom "will also be able to use a wide range of weapons, in particular the new aircraft guided missile "product 85" and guided bombs KAB-250, KAB-500.
Small-sized Molniya UAVS are designed for high-precision destruction of stationary and mobile ground objects, use as false targets to complicate the air situation, suppress enemy air defense, create and control a strike group breakout zone and quickly destroy suddenly detected air defense objects, provide group electronic warfare when performing tasks together with manned aircraft.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/10902409
As reported in the company "Kronshtadt", drones "Lightning" "will constantly communicate with each other and the carrier drone"
MOSCOW, March 15. /TASS/. The promising Russian unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) Grom will be able to control a swarm consisting of 10 small-sized Molniya drones in reconnaissance and strike configurations with the ability to change tasks for each member of the group. This was reported to TASS by a representative of Kronshtadt JSC, which develops Grom .
"The returned ones are reconnaissance drones. Shock, as in the case of barraging ammunition, are kamikazes. "Molniya will constantly communicate with each other and the carrier drone, "the representative of Kronshtadt informed.
According to him, "Lightning" is optimized for use as part of a swarm of drones. "Lightning has a constant exchange of data between UAVS. It is possible to change tasks for each member of the pack. Transfer of leadership roles and interchangeability. At the same time, thanks to artificial intelligence, the task is performed by a group without constant communication with the carrier aircraft, " the company said.
Earlier, a TASS source reported that the Grom will be able to control a swarm of 10 Molniya strike drones, and in one of the variants of its own strike capabilities, it will be able to carry x-38 air - to-surface guided missiles.
According to the Kronstadt company, the thunder drone's own strike capabilities are associated with the presence of four suspension points - two under the wing consoles and two inside the fuselage. According to official data, with a take-off weight of 7 tons, it will be able to deliver a payload weighing 1.3 tons to a range of 800 km. "Grom "will also be able to use a wide range of weapons, in particular the new aircraft guided missile "product 85" and guided bombs KAB-250, KAB-500.
Small-sized Molniya UAVS are designed for high-precision destruction of stationary and mobile ground objects, use as false targets to complicate the air situation, suppress enemy air defense, create and control a strike group breakout zone and quickly destroy suddenly detected air defense objects, provide group electronic warfare when performing tasks together with manned aircraft.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/10902409
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In the early 00s there were several large catalogues released by Russian companies regarding weapons and systems and equipment produced by Russia for export... the two I have are Russias Arms 2001-2002 and a slightly later Russias Arms 2004.
In many regards the contents are very similar but the latter edition was slightly updated and improved with newer equipment mentioned including material not actually in service at the time.
The books were produced by a company called Military Parade, which also produced an excellent monthly journal, but it seems to have disappeared in the later 00s.
Such a book now would be something I would be very interested it as a sort of wiki for new Russian equipment that is not corrupted by western editing/propaganda.
Certainly there are lots of new weapons programmes when information is sketchy and vague and clarification would be appreciated.
In many regards the contents are very similar but the latter edition was slightly updated and improved with newer equipment mentioned including material not actually in service at the time.
The books were produced by a company called Military Parade, which also produced an excellent monthly journal, but it seems to have disappeared in the later 00s.
Such a book now would be something I would be very interested it as a sort of wiki for new Russian equipment that is not corrupted by western editing/propaganda.
Certainly there are lots of new weapons programmes when information is sketchy and vague and clarification would be appreciated.
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GarryB wrote:In the early 00s there were several large catalogues released by Russian companies regarding weapons and systems and equipment produced by Russia for export... the two I have are Russias Arms 2001-2002 and a slightly later Russias Arms 2004.
In many regards the contents are very similar but the latter edition was slightly updated and improved with newer equipment mentioned including material not actually in service at the time.
The books were produced by a company called Military Parade, which also produced an excellent monthly journal, but it seems to have disappeared in the later 00s.
Such a book now would be something I would be very interested it as a sort of wiki for new Russian equipment that is not corrupted by western editing/propaganda.
Certainly there are lots of new weapons programmes when information is sketchy and vague and clarification would be appreciated.
I remember the Military Parade and in case you have not seen before have attached the link to the online catalog for the Rosoboronexport.
http://roe.ru/eng/catalog/
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Thanks, yes I have seen that, but the books I was talking about started out like essentially a full weapon list for the Soviet Union and included old systems in a set of books released in the 1990s. The Russias Arms catalogs I mention were a second phase sort of release showing what was for export and for sale, whereas the original sets of books were enormously detailed of all the equipment the Soviets and Russians used... to a level of detail no western book as ever even approached even though the descriptions were a bit short and clunky.
There was a later book released in 2007 which I didn't get a chance to order too.
The Ros catalog is interesting but covers stuff for export basically, rather than new stuff for Russian issue...
Note, it does not include the RVV-BD long range for export AAM, while even the 2001-2002 Russia Arms book includes the R-37 and other missiles.
At least the Ros catalog has been expanded recently to include sporting weapons and equipment, though I would like to see more clothing gear like heated gloves and socks and pants and jackets and of course new night vision goggles etc...
It mentions the ammo I want to buy but local importers import from a guy in Germany and of course he can't buy stuff from Russia easily so they can't get it...
There was a later book released in 2007 which I didn't get a chance to order too.
The Ros catalog is interesting but covers stuff for export basically, rather than new stuff for Russian issue...
Note, it does not include the RVV-BD long range for export AAM, while even the 2001-2002 Russia Arms book includes the R-37 and other missiles.
At least the Ros catalog has been expanded recently to include sporting weapons and equipment, though I would like to see more clothing gear like heated gloves and socks and pants and jackets and of course new night vision goggles etc...
It mentions the ammo I want to buy but local importers import from a guy in Germany and of course he can't buy stuff from Russia easily so they can't get it...
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A ELINT/SIGINT drone used to passively discover the radar emissions of a counter-battery radar.
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I totally agree.
We have then, a very interesting aspect.
What interests me most is the degree of semi-automatism that S-70 will probably inaugurate and as per the best Russian tradition, will then cascade to all systems that require it.
So the level of programming (of very high quality, demonstrated by the progress and by the projects of new conception that are repeatedly coming out).
UCAVs capable of discreetly patrolling borders and hot spots, ready to intervene.
UCAVs working in teams with predictive algorithms, and always under human supervision ready to intervene.
UCAVs able to depart from (relatively small) surfaces, even in SEA.
UCAVs that will also be refuelable in flight, in order to have a 24/24 operation for days and days. (toilet, restaurant, bed at hundreds/thousands of km on the ground with personnel shifts at the console).
UCAVs in case of expendable combat.
Who needs an F-35? SALES coming soon.
We have then, a very interesting aspect.
What interests me most is the degree of semi-automatism that S-70 will probably inaugurate and as per the best Russian tradition, will then cascade to all systems that require it.
So the level of programming (of very high quality, demonstrated by the progress and by the projects of new conception that are repeatedly coming out).
UCAVs capable of discreetly patrolling borders and hot spots, ready to intervene.
UCAVs working in teams with predictive algorithms, and always under human supervision ready to intervene.
UCAVs able to depart from (relatively small) surfaces, even in SEA.
UCAVs that will also be refuelable in flight, in order to have a 24/24 operation for days and days. (toilet, restaurant, bed at hundreds/thousands of km on the ground with personnel shifts at the console).
UCAVs in case of expendable combat.
Who needs an F-35? SALES coming soon.
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The thing with UAVs is that with no pilot you can accelerate them as rapidly as you like so no longer a 9g limit for takeoffs assuming the drones are mechanically able to handle that acceleration rate... ie undercarriage etc.
This would mean instead of the takeoff strips a normal aircraft would need can be made much shorter and of course with cable recovery that would just remain the same.
The potential for the future is enormous, but in many ways is pretty open.
There was a game that GSC made called Outbreak which I rather enjoyed... they went on to make the Stalker series of games, but I found Outbreak was interesting because it was essentially a first person shoot'em up, but you had two characters in your team and you could give them commands and set their attributes.
You had one key that let you switch controls from one character to the other... each character could have a different weapons and equipment loadout, so you could position one character in one part of the map with a good overview of the area and move forward with the other character... I found having the other character move with me and cover me to be the best because he could see enemy long before I noticed them so when he started firing I could fire too.
With a few simple controls and commands this extra character was not a burden... he was actually rather useful. Free fire and hold fire, cover me or hold/defend position and attack were the primary commands... you could designate targets and get him to fire on them or if there were two targets you could put him on hold fire and designate one target and assign it to be his target and then line up the second target... when you fired... he fired so both targets were shot at once.
It really made the game stand out as being fun for me... the guns were well done too... they were multicalibre weapons that got heavier and bigger but also more capable so the basic gun had an assault rifle and sniper rifle and a laser with different ammo and performance for each. Ironically the assault rifle always fired its first round on target even at long range so firing single shot it actually acted like a sniper rifle. The top gun had flare launchers and mine launchers and rocket launchers etc etc all in the one weapon which I liked too.
Obviously the S-70 can carry multipurpose weapons for a variety of uses too, though of course if it is operating from a 40K ton helicopter carrier they might fit them with belly mounted radar arrays to allow them to operate as AWACS to detect low flying threats...
This would mean instead of the takeoff strips a normal aircraft would need can be made much shorter and of course with cable recovery that would just remain the same.
The potential for the future is enormous, but in many ways is pretty open.
There was a game that GSC made called Outbreak which I rather enjoyed... they went on to make the Stalker series of games, but I found Outbreak was interesting because it was essentially a first person shoot'em up, but you had two characters in your team and you could give them commands and set their attributes.
You had one key that let you switch controls from one character to the other... each character could have a different weapons and equipment loadout, so you could position one character in one part of the map with a good overview of the area and move forward with the other character... I found having the other character move with me and cover me to be the best because he could see enemy long before I noticed them so when he started firing I could fire too.
With a few simple controls and commands this extra character was not a burden... he was actually rather useful. Free fire and hold fire, cover me or hold/defend position and attack were the primary commands... you could designate targets and get him to fire on them or if there were two targets you could put him on hold fire and designate one target and assign it to be his target and then line up the second target... when you fired... he fired so both targets were shot at once.
It really made the game stand out as being fun for me... the guns were well done too... they were multicalibre weapons that got heavier and bigger but also more capable so the basic gun had an assault rifle and sniper rifle and a laser with different ammo and performance for each. Ironically the assault rifle always fired its first round on target even at long range so firing single shot it actually acted like a sniper rifle. The top gun had flare launchers and mine launchers and rocket launchers etc etc all in the one weapon which I liked too.
Obviously the S-70 can carry multipurpose weapons for a variety of uses too, though of course if it is operating from a 40K ton helicopter carrier they might fit them with belly mounted radar arrays to allow them to operate as AWACS to detect low flying threats...
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Reconnaissance and strike drone "Altius-U" received satellite communications
The Russian drone "Altius" became the first Russian drone equipped with a satellite communications terminal. This was announced by the chief designer of the Altius project, Ilya Matveev.
Answering the questions of the journalist on the air of the Russia-24 TV channel, Matveev explained that the Altius UAV was the first of the Russian drones to receive a satellite communication terminal developed in Russia, the receiver is placed under the head fairing of the drone.
This onboard satellite communications terminal was developed in Russia, including for use as part of our aircraft. Our drone is the first to be equipped with this kind of radio communication capabilities. - he said.
Earlier it was reported that thanks to the installed equipment, the drone can be controlled via satellite, which makes the range of its use almost unlimited.
Altius-U is a drone created as a result of the development and testing of a number of prototypes within the Altair project. The newest unmanned complex is capable of performing the entire range of reconnaissance missions, as well as using airborne weapons.
The Altius UAV has a wingspan of 28.5 m, a length of 11.6 m, and a take-off weight of 6 tons. The flight altitude is 12 thousand meters, the flight range is up to 10 thousand km. In this case, the UAV can stay in the air for up to 48 hours. The installed equipment allows reconnaissance at a great distance.
In February of this year, it became known that the Ministry of Defense had ordered a pilot batch of Altius reconnaissance and strike drones. Delivery times and the number of drones in the batch were not reported.
https://6b6gjclcha6ibjpa45wvvqdamu--topwar-ru.translate.goog/181336-razvedyvatelno-udarnyj-bespilotnik-altius-u-poluchil-sputnikovuju-svjaz.html
The Russian drone "Altius" became the first Russian drone equipped with a satellite communications terminal. This was announced by the chief designer of the Altius project, Ilya Matveev.
Answering the questions of the journalist on the air of the Russia-24 TV channel, Matveev explained that the Altius UAV was the first of the Russian drones to receive a satellite communication terminal developed in Russia, the receiver is placed under the head fairing of the drone.
This onboard satellite communications terminal was developed in Russia, including for use as part of our aircraft. Our drone is the first to be equipped with this kind of radio communication capabilities. - he said.
Earlier it was reported that thanks to the installed equipment, the drone can be controlled via satellite, which makes the range of its use almost unlimited.
Altius-U is a drone created as a result of the development and testing of a number of prototypes within the Altair project. The newest unmanned complex is capable of performing the entire range of reconnaissance missions, as well as using airborne weapons.
The Altius UAV has a wingspan of 28.5 m, a length of 11.6 m, and a take-off weight of 6 tons. The flight altitude is 12 thousand meters, the flight range is up to 10 thousand km. In this case, the UAV can stay in the air for up to 48 hours. The installed equipment allows reconnaissance at a great distance.
In February of this year, it became known that the Ministry of Defense had ordered a pilot batch of Altius reconnaissance and strike drones. Delivery times and the number of drones in the batch were not reported.
https://6b6gjclcha6ibjpa45wvvqdamu--topwar-ru.translate.goog/181336-razvedyvatelno-udarnyj-bespilotnik-altius-u-poluchil-sputnikovuju-svjaz.html
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What is the UAV at 35:35?
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dino00 wrote:What is the UAV at 35:35?
Grom
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LMFS wrote:dino00 wrote:What is the UAV at 35:35?
Grom
The other to the left...
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dino00 wrote:The other to the left...
I don't know which one you refer to, at that mark I only see Grom, then Molniya a bit afterwards
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LMFS wrote:dino00 wrote:The other to the left...
I don't know which one you refer to, at that mark I only see Grom, then Molniya a bit afterwards
The board they looking at
Looks supersonic