Turkey's Military and Politics

Egypt has the biggest ground forces in ME


With what latest real conflict?

Do you even know Turkey has 300.000 veterans? My family only includes 2 people killed 12 terrorists in total.

Don't touch something you don't have any idea about.

After the purges in Turkey, Turkey lost a lot of veterans and skilled soldiers.

I dont knock Turkey down in their capabilities. But I wouldn't over exaggerate their abilities either. They are fighting from a further distance than Egypt is, so Egypt will have proximity advantage.

Actually Turkey has no real experience in modern wars , Egypt last war was against IDF in 1973 .

Actually Israel has killed 10 Turkish citizens in 2010 and Turkey did nothing .

Yesterday ,Palestinian Ambassador to Turkey told Turkish media that Palestine is ready to sign a maritime deal with Ankara and cooperate on natural resources in the eastern Mediterranean , but Turkey even didn't comment on that . Can Turkey go to the palestinian coasts ? US and Israel are going to fuc* it , Turkey only steal the broken countries like Syria ,Libya and Iraq.

You guys are using terrorists to fight for you everywhere

Terrorists,

Haftar has more Medhali/Salafi terrorists in its camp than Tripoli does. It is Egypt that has cages with iron net in its courts, not Turkey. It is Egypt that has a president with 97% of the votes, not Turkey. But Erdogan called the dictator, terrorist etc. And there is an idea here that once Erdogan removed Turkey will change. Let me tell you, Erdogan is criticized in Turkey by opposition factions he is not doing enough. Turkish decisions are not shallow to be made by only Erdogan&planned in detail. Actually, Libyan deal was a product of a Kemalist soldier, not a pro-Erdogan conservative. So dont take your hopes high. Turkey is not run by just one family like other crap Arab states.

Erdogan put tens of thousands in jail in months , he changed the constitution to have the whole power .

He and his son and party are full of corruption .

He hosted ISIS fighters in Istanbul hotels , so yes Turkey is acting like a terrorist country .

Anyway this is

We are not criticizing Turkey or their interior politic.

Erdogan is making huge mistakes abroad and doesn't have the capacity to sustain its moves in Lybia or Syria if he faces a well armed country.

You veterans are totally useless when it comes to a war in Libya against Egypt because it will be totally done with systems like fighter jets or navy ships. Egypt has total advantage as the battle would occur accross the border. In terms of training Egypt also have the advantage because Turkey lack trained pilots and Erdogan doesn't trust its air force.

Turkey forces in Libya are poorly armed and protected. It's only some guys controling some drones. Your ships on the coast are old US frigate that wouldn't stand a chance against Egyptian navy/air force.

Turkey can't sustain big loses too because they are already out of the f-35 program and US wouldn't sell them new stuff. They also have to keep their military strenght to protect their positions in north Cyprus.

Last thing Turkey doesn't have nuks or the economy to allow itself operations abroad like russians or US. They forces can be destroyed and they can't protect them.

What you write above is just a compilation what you read in internet.

Turkey is well aware of its capabilities and acts accordingly. That is why it was able to save Tripoli. In EastMed, we dont agree Greek claims of small islands having EEZ, meanwhile they accept Italian dictate and didnt allocate anything to Corfu island. Do you think Turkey is dumb? That proposal will never be accepted. Same goes in Libya. Turkish construction firms have worked there without getting any payments for years, since Qaddafi era, meanwhile European firms enjoyed oil. CIA,KSA,UAE uses AlQaeda everywhere they need, even they made them attack Turkey, but when Turkey uses proxies called "using terrorists"

Turkey the most determined country about this issues. No crack whatsoever. Only small portion of people who have big mouths and internet sites. Turkish Navy is not just old US frigates, update your knowledge. Modernized 16 frigates with complete linked C3 capabilities, and 280 km ranged ASMs. 4 E7s with 400 km range.

Turkey has a pilot pool in THY who left TuAF due to CIA linked FETO coup plotters. After 2016 they returned. Actually, Turkish Armed Forces gained ita strength back after it get cleaned from CIA assets.

Cyprus 1974 will be repeated, but with broader aspect

Do you think Turkey is dumb?

Not Turkey. Only Erdogan. He just lost all its allies and became dependant of Russia which isn't a friend if Turkey or Erdogan.

He succeed only in his "patriotic speeches" that makes people like you support him.

Erdogan plays a game he can't play. Even Chinese don't play such game. Only Russia and US can play like that.

Turkey the most determined country about this issues. No crack whatsoever. Only small portion of people who have big mouths and internet sites. Turkish Navy is not just old US frigates, update your knowledge. Modernized 16 frigates with complete linked C3 capabilities, and 280 km ranged ASMs. 4 E7s with 400 km range.

Your navy ships suck. They are good only off turkish coast. Far away they become targets for fighter jets. And ecen then they have poor AD to protect themselves.

They are on their own off the libyan coast. Egypt needs 30 minutes to destroy them with its ships still in their ports. They couldn't down a drone with them let alone supersonic Moskit and other exocet. In the same time the airforce launches missiles for stand off range.


No matter how you turn the situation, Egypt have total advantage in Libya against Turkey. Even if turks set up an air base in Tripoli they would be overwhelmed and destroyed in one day.

Can you two please stop dick waving?

miketheterrible wrote:

ahmedfire wrote:
Steal everywhere  

Libya’s Sarraj pays $12 billion to Turkey for military protection

Yeah, that is outright theft of Turkey right there.

He did the same with Syrian oil , Russian satellites captured him .

Who sales Syrian oil now?

Tell that also

AbdulhamidtheSecond wrote:Lol, keep believing,

Right on time,

Needs confirmation but first reports of offensive on Sirte coming

https://twitter.com/MiddleEastWatc1/status/1275473456000389120?s=20

Lets see if your knowledge is right

Well I hope we won't see if I'm right. It's libyan people that suffers. I don't really give a fuck about Sisi's or Erdogan's interest. I'm just analyzing the situation.

AbdulhamidtheSecond wrote:Who sales Syrian oil now?

Tell that also

Turdogan and Stumpy Trumpy, they're cut from the same chauvinist, neo-colonialist garbage cloth.

Paging Garry, the Talking Bollocks thread might have some new posts?

Egypt is leading an Arab campaign against Turkish terrorism .

The Arab countries that adopted the #Arab #League resolution on #Libya without reservation: #Saudi #Arabia, #Egypt, #Algeria, #UAE, #Jordan, #Bahrain, #Kuwait, #Sudan, #Oman, #Morocco, #Yemen, #Lebanon, #Palestine, #Mauritania, #Djibouti, #Comoros, and #Iraq.

"Terrorism" is a word you throw away when you dont like the guy.

It is interests all counts. What Egypt fights for, is supposedly to stop the Turks. Then supports or supported by whom? France. The greatest colonizer of Africa, including, for some time, Egypt.

France used Jufra back in the day to smuggle Uranium stolen from lower Sahra countries and took it to France for utilization. They know if Turkey comes it wont happen again. If Egypt comes, well, pay the share let it play. Wrong side for Egyptians.

Greeks claim islands, even though tiny and scarcely populated, can have continental shelf and grabs large swathes of Libya, Egyptian and Turkish sea territory. They say it is ok in UNCLOS but they recently SIGNED an agreement with Italy which neglected island Corfu. Because it was Italy, not uneducated Arabs whom you can fool.

But if Turkey comes into play, that wont happen. If Egypt comes, pay the share let it play. Wrong side for Egyptian.

UAE&KSA supports Medhalis at every instance including Libya and Egypt follows the suit. They are the most dangerous groups in Islamic World as they are totally subjugated to West. If Egypt wants to be independent, it has to go in a different direction than these under civilized acidizers.

https://youtu.be/RJxqqAXeHXw

Look at the video. Killer of a man, not with "normal" or "sane" methods, gets in front of TV and with very relaxed manner, tells how they will "investigate" the incident. A killer, lies in front of millions with cold blood and in comfort.

Lets say Turkey is bad. Although this opinion building made by funded centers. But lets say Turkey is bad. The above camp is now Egypt's alternative. Killers, trickers,dodgers, and colonizers.

I wont say anything. Just talk to your conscience...

JohninMK wrote:Paging Garry, the Talking Bollocks thread might have some new posts?

i made this thread, unless you all disagree

The main problem for Erdogan is the not the west. They won't attack him directly.

He is playing with them, and losing a lot. But they won't attack him.

But Egypt or Syria or Cyprus or Greece or UEA have no reason to not attack him if he pushes his terrorists and muslim brotherhood toward them. And then the west, which he is pissing off, won't help him.

Egypt fears Muslim Brotherhood a lot. Sisi was once the top commander of Morsi. Yes, I hear stories about his team and how ignorant and incapable they were. Probably Sisi is better. But idea of Muslim Brotherhood has its roots in Egypt. Hasan al Benna, Sayed Qutub were all Egyptians. Actually Turkey does not "possess" MB. It was always there and Turkey made an alliance. Turkey didnt invent them.

Sisi then overthrew these guys. Turkey naturally opposed. Then he feared to have them in political arena. Called them terrorists. The group once won elections, became terrorists.

MB is a threat to UAE and KSA because they oppose monarchist regimes which cause only turbulence. Exploiting Gulf wealth by a certain family. Shame for 21st century. MB supporters are usually ignorant and strict religious figure yes, but oppressing them will only make them to go more extreme. In Turkey, religious portion of country now rules for almost 20 years, and realities of 21st century made them less extreme, not vice versa.

What Egypt is concerned about Turkey is lack of trust and communication. They think Turkey will exploit country through ignorant MB rulers. Egyptian policy makers may think so, but why not to free every political faction in Egypt, the only prerequisite that Turkey wishes to see in order to start with normal relations with Egypt.

Turkey+Egypt+Libya will be enough to end Greek bullshittery regarding Kastelorizo and Crete, meanwhile making Israel less capable.

Today's situation only benefits Israel

Please, Turkey uses Israel as an enemy when they need to light up patriotic feelings in it citizens to make them vote for Erdogan but sleep in the same bed when no one is looking.

MB is a threat to UAE and KSA because they oppose monarchist regimes which cause only turbulence

Yeah we see how democracy is so successful in arab countries ...

If arabs don't have a powerfull guy on the top they just start civilian wars. They can't live democratically because every difference is a reason to fight.

Sisi then overthrew these guys. Turkey naturally opposed. Then he feared to have them in political arena. Called them terrorists. The group once won elections, became terrorists.

You don't know anything about Egypt , many MB had joined to the terrorists in Sinai . The MB TV channels in Turkey has requested clearly to kill the Egyptian army so yes MB is a terrorist group and Turkey is giving them all support including TV channels .

Sisi then overthrew these guys. Turkey naturally opposed. Then he feared to have them in political arena. Called them terrorists. The group once won elections, became terrorists.

Who cares about Turkey anyway ,Erdogan has refused to deal with Sisi but now Erdogan's consultant is requesting Egypt to sit on the table and negotiate .

There are 30 million protesters who made the revolution ,the army just finished the job because the country was in a mess that could lead to a civil war .

Erdogan is an idiot who lost all his neighbours ,then he started to deal with terrorists to steal the oil .

AbdulhamidtheSecond wrote:
Turkey+Egypt+Libya will be enough to end Greek bullshittery regarding Kastelorizo and Crete, meanwhile making Israel less capable.

Today's situation only benefits Israel

so Turkey denies also Crete's EEZ boundaries??

so Turkey denies also Crete's EEZ boundaries??
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Against mainland, yes
Against islands, as equals.

Why would Libya make a demarcation with Crete 50 50 with its mainland. It is not fair. Kastelorizo is the grand unfairness.
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There are 30 million protesters who made the revolution ,the army just finished the job because the country was in a mess that could lead to a civil war

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I watched the protests against MB. But a terrorist group winning elections mean half of Egypt is terrorist. I mean, if it is so, then dont apply double standards for things happened in Turkey.