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Libyan Crisis #2
ahmedfire- Posts : 2366
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- Post n°376
Re: Libyan Crisis #2
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JohninMK- Posts : 15990
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- Post n°377
Re: Libyan Crisis #2
What an idiot. Erdogan must have given Tripoli credit
syrseal
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Erdogan demands Libyan government president to pay $ 3.8 billion
Money is debt from the era of Fayez Al-Sarraj and his government against military equipment and salaries for mercenaries sent to Libya, as well as ′ ′ allowance ′ ′ providing security and training advisory services by the Turkish (Syrian terrorists) in the West Libyan.
syrseal
@syrseal44
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Erdogan demands Libyan government president to pay $ 3.8 billion
Money is debt from the era of Fayez Al-Sarraj and his government against military equipment and salaries for mercenaries sent to Libya, as well as ′ ′ allowance ′ ′ providing security and training advisory services by the Turkish (Syrian terrorists) in the West Libyan.
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George1- Posts : 18618
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- Post n°378
Re: Libyan Crisis #2
Authorities overseeing Libya's first presidential election have confirmed that holding it on Friday as scheduled is "impossible" and suggested a month-long delay.
ahmedfire- Posts : 2366
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- Post n°379
Re: Libyan Crisis #2
After all they are friends now
Good for the Middle East and of course good for Libya.
Erdogan visit to Egypt .
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- Post n°380
Re: Libyan Crisis #2
ahmedfire wrote:
After all they are friends now
Good for the Middle East and of course good for Libya.
Erdogan visit to Egypt
lol, the best of buddies now haha. What a fraud that Erdogan is with that phony pretentious self-righteousness he tried so hard to intimidate Sisi with for years with that big mouth of his. Remember when he refused to be in the same room as Sisi because he overthrew Morsi and illegitimately took power in Egypt? looool While he changed the Turkish president/prime minister laws so he can get elected president after running the PM elections to their fullest so he can keep control of power in Türkiye hahahaha. At least Sisi did what he did in front of the whole world and nevef appologized for it or pretended. Just like Putin LOL!
The nerve on this guy and look at him now, all smiles and bonding love with Sisi who all along never said a single bad thing about that guy and took the high road the whole time and I think the "Red Line" in Libya is what turned things around. Erdogan couldn't believe Sisi had the balls to tell him "You cross that red line, and you won't be happy with the results" hahaha. Never seen that big lug back off the way he did after that and especially when "some unknown air force" took out his MIM 23 Hawk SAMs LOL. His attitude changed right away after that! of course, he had to solicit the help of Tamim Al Thani to break the ice and make the peace introduction at the world cup in Qatar just so it looks like he was "pushed" into the new friendship loool. So funny.
He also started seeing how close Sisi was becoming with Cyprus' Christodoulides and especially Mitsotakis and all the military exercises with Greece particularly the naval ones which were all geared around the agreed EEZ with Greece and even South Cyprus. This was the final straw and he finally smartened up and put away that pompous & self-righteous behavior that wasn't getting him anywhere and even losing more ground in that weird fight he was waging. It's hilarious to watch the whole transformation LOL!
This is the way it should be anyway as we have more of a connection with Türkiye and Turkish people than with Greece/Greeks despite our super long history and connection with the great history and people of Athens. They're all our bros and sis's he just never knew it.
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JohninMK- Posts : 15990
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GarryB- Posts : 41148
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- Post n°382
Re: Libyan Crisis #2
What an idiot. Erdogan must have given Tripoli credit Shocked Shocked
syrseal
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Erdogan demands Libyan government president to pay $ 3.8 billion
Money is debt from the era of Fayez Al-Sarraj and his government against military equipment and salaries for mercenaries sent to Libya, as well as ′ ′ allowance ′ ′ providing security and training advisory services by the Turkish (Syrian terrorists) in the West Libyan.
The amusing thing is that in a year or maybe more it will be the EU and US and various G7 members that demand Kiev pay the 500 billion in money and weapons and ammo and support that the west gave the Ukraine before and during their conflict with Russia, including allowances to mercs and advisors etc etc.
I rather suspect Putin will tell them to piss off and hand them a bill for damages and rebuilding costs that is three times bigger... of course not expecting them to pay, but also not paying either.
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JohninMK- Posts : 15990
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- Post n°383
Re: Libyan Crisis #2
Rybar Force
@rybar_force
On the Escalation of the Crisis in Libya
Since early August, the government in eastern Libya under the leadership of Marshal Haftar has been strengthening its positions in the west of the country.
According to the words of the Chief of the General Staff of the "Libyan National Army", these measures are being taken to strengthen the border. It was also noted that the actions are not something special, and maneuvers have been carried out before.
But, of course, such actions have found an appropriate background from observers from the US, UN and European Union - the preparation of the government in Tobruk for a third civil war.
They also spotted the presence of the "African Corps", which allegedly spurs the escalation of the conflict. All this looks like the usual anti-Russian agenda that Western media constantly promote in Africa.
In response to this, groups under the control of Tripoli have begun to strengthen their presence on the border with Algeria in the Ghat region, where Haftar's forces want to enter.
But there are no battles between the groups yet, only occasional arrests of smugglers and minor clashes with tribes in the south of the country.
For now, the situation remains stably tense for the chaos-engulfed Libya. However, if the Turkish and American curators of the authorities in Tripoli begin to spur the western groups to war with Haftar, then everything may go in a completely different scenario. At least now they have a weighty reason for this for the first time in a long time.
@rybar_force
On the Escalation of the Crisis in Libya
Since early August, the government in eastern Libya under the leadership of Marshal Haftar has been strengthening its positions in the west of the country.
According to the words of the Chief of the General Staff of the "Libyan National Army", these measures are being taken to strengthen the border. It was also noted that the actions are not something special, and maneuvers have been carried out before.
But, of course, such actions have found an appropriate background from observers from the US, UN and European Union - the preparation of the government in Tobruk for a third civil war.
They also spotted the presence of the "African Corps", which allegedly spurs the escalation of the conflict. All this looks like the usual anti-Russian agenda that Western media constantly promote in Africa.
In response to this, groups under the control of Tripoli have begun to strengthen their presence on the border with Algeria in the Ghat region, where Haftar's forces want to enter.
But there are no battles between the groups yet, only occasional arrests of smugglers and minor clashes with tribes in the south of the country.
For now, the situation remains stably tense for the chaos-engulfed Libya. However, if the Turkish and American curators of the authorities in Tripoli begin to spur the western groups to war with Haftar, then everything may go in a completely different scenario. At least now they have a weighty reason for this for the first time in a long time.
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JohninMK- Posts : 15990
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- Post n°385
Re: Libyan Crisis #2
Looks loike one multi Il-76 size hanger is complete, another underway and a third's foundations going in.
Interesting location for logistics like fuel.
DD Geopolitics
@DD_Geopolitics
Russia is building a major military base in Libya’s Toubou-controlled region near a gold mine and the Sudan-Chad border, a strategic location for Russia's operation in the Sahel.
- The Al-Qadim base will reportedly host Russia’s “African Corps,” an alternative to Wagner, with former Syrian officers among its ranks.
- Daily Russian flights from Syria’s Khmeimim base to Libya have been ongoing since mid-December, likely supporting General Haftar’s forces in eastern Libya.
Interesting location for logistics like fuel.
DD Geopolitics
@DD_Geopolitics
Russia is building a major military base in Libya’s Toubou-controlled region near a gold mine and the Sudan-Chad border, a strategic location for Russia's operation in the Sahel.
- The Al-Qadim base will reportedly host Russia’s “African Corps,” an alternative to Wagner, with former Syrian officers among its ranks.
- Daily Russian flights from Syria’s Khmeimim base to Libya have been ongoing since mid-December, likely supporting General Haftar’s forces in eastern Libya.
Eugenio Argentina- Posts : 5838
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- Post n°386
Re: Libyan Crisis #2
I don't know how much truth there is in the news about the Russian base in Libya.
They have been talking about this for days, but I have not seen any information from the Russian government on the matter.
They have been talking about this for days, but I have not seen any information from the Russian government on the matter.
Isos- Posts : 11668
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- Post n°387
Re: Libyan Crisis #2
I doubt they would want such an isolated base far from the sea.
But good thing about it is it's cheap to have them. Bad thing is instability can lead to Syria's scenario if nato pays for the opposition forces (that are very close to Turkey...)
They need Chinese involvement, economical involvement at least to build back Libya. Having only weapons there is just a lose of money. Like in Syria.
But good thing about it is it's cheap to have them. Bad thing is instability can lead to Syria's scenario if nato pays for the opposition forces (that are very close to Turkey...)
They need Chinese involvement, economical involvement at least to build back Libya. Having only weapons there is just a lose of money. Like in Syria.
Eugenio Argentina- Posts : 5838
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On the other hand, we must not lose sight of the fact that Russia has been having a greater presence in Africa for some years now.
PhSt- Posts : 1572
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- Post n°389
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There are reports about Turkey backed militants attacking Haftar's forces in Libya. Looks like NATO is using Turkey to compromise Russia's presence in the Mediterranean.
Russia needs to close the gap in the South Caucasus (take over Azerbaijan, Georgia and Armenia) to frustrate Turkish ambitions to link with central asia.
GarryB- Posts : 41148
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- Post n°390
Re: Libyan Crisis #2
It is worth going there if they can make a difference and help that country rebuild and restore itself to its former glory.
They will have to put in a lot of work to strengthen their allies there to make sure the west does not rally support against them...
My nephew was in the NZ army and did a tour in Afghanistan quite a few years ago and he said the local Afghan elders told him that when they first arrived the local taliban went to the elders to organise resistance to kick them out but they gave them a chance and because they did some good work helping the locals they told the Taliban they didn't want them out.
I think the Russians will use communication to work with the locals to help them solve their problems and make things better on the ground... if they do that there will be some loyalty... but of course loyalty only goes so far when thousands of mercs arrive from outside the region to get rid of you....
They will have to put in a lot of work to strengthen their allies there to make sure the west does not rally support against them...
My nephew was in the NZ army and did a tour in Afghanistan quite a few years ago and he said the local Afghan elders told him that when they first arrived the local taliban went to the elders to organise resistance to kick them out but they gave them a chance and because they did some good work helping the locals they told the Taliban they didn't want them out.
I think the Russians will use communication to work with the locals to help them solve their problems and make things better on the ground... if they do that there will be some loyalty... but of course loyalty only goes so far when thousands of mercs arrive from outside the region to get rid of you....
Eugenio Argentina- Posts : 5838
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Re: Libyan Crisis #2
— BREAKING: A state of emergency has been declared in Tajouri, Tripoli, GNA controlled Libya. The GNA military has also been deployed throughout Tajoura, blocking all entrances.
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