Su-30 for Russian Air Force #2

Hole wrote:"Under the name of the ROC "Adaptation-Su" there are several different programs for the creation of missiles for strike aircraft, Dmitry Kornev, editor of the militaryrussia portal, told Izvestia. These include work on the Kh-32, a modern modification of the rather old Kh-22 missile, which is used on the Tu-22M3 bomber. In addition, within the framework of these R&D projects, more modern hypersonic missiles, still secret, are being created."

Read the paragraph again. Nobody claims that the Kh-32 will be used on the Su-30SM. The modernisation of the plane falls under the same programm as the modernisation or development of missiles. Like the Burevestnik program for the creation of new artillery systems.

franco wrote:Shoigu announces contracts will be awarded for another 21 Su-30SM2 and 25 Yak-130's.

«Мы приняли решение и подпишем в этом году дополнительно к имеющимся два государственных контракта на сумму более 100 млрд рублей, по которым будут построены 21 истребитель Су-30СМ2 и 25 учебно-боевых самолетов Як-130», — сказал глава военного ведомства.

LMFS wrote:SM2? Was not the modernized version supposed to be called SM1?

LMFS wrote:

Hole wrote:"Under the name of the ROC "Adaptation-Su" there are several different programs for the creation of missiles for strike aircraft, Dmitry Kornev, editor of the militaryrussia portal, told Izvestia. These include work on the Kh-32, a modern modification of the rather old Kh-22 missile, which is used on the Tu-22M3 bomber. In addition, within the framework of these R&D projects, more modern hypersonic missiles, still secret, are being created."

Read the paragraph again. Nobody claims that the Kh-32 will be used on the Su-30SM. The modernisation of the plane falls under the same programm as the modernisation or development of missiles. Like the Burevestnik program for the creation of new artillery systems.

If the work on the Kh-32 is included in the Su program how they would not be related?

Furthermore, from the original article:

Russian Su-30SM fighters will receive a new heavy air-to-surface missile. The creation of the product is carried out within the framework of the experimental design work "Adaptation-Su". According to experts, we are talking about equipping the Sukhoi with the Kh-32 liquid hypersonic missile, which was previously used only on long-range Tu-22M3 bombers

The Kh-32 is a powerful dual-use missile. It can be used as an anti-ship or for firing at targets with previously known coordinates, '' explained Dmitry Kornev. - To penetrate the protected hull of the ship, a HEAT warhead is used. Several of these missiles are capable of destroying an aircraft carrier. And one hit is enough to disable any ship of less class. If such ammunition is adapted for the Su-30SM, then any front-line aviation regiment will be able to use long-range cruise missiles with almost hypersonic speed. Potentially, "thirty" is capable of carrying one X-32 on the main suspension under the fuselage.

In 2016, the Ministry of Defense announced the adoption of the X-32 into service with Tupolev bombers. The possibility of equipping fighters with these missiles was not previously reported.

They are quite explicitly talking about Kh-32 for not meaning it will be carried by the Su

franco wrote:Shoigu announces contracts will be awarded for another 21 Su-30SM2 and 25 Yak-130's.

«Мы приняли решение и подпишем в этом году дополнительно к имеющимся два государственных контракта на сумму более 100 млрд рублей, по которым будут построены 21 истребитель Су-30СМ2 и 25 учебно-боевых самолетов Як-130», — сказал глава военного ведомства.

SM2? Was not the modernized version supposed to be called SM1?

Hole wrote:Then it must be a modification of the Kh-32, a sort of Kh-32 light.

Isn´t SM1 the designation for the modernisation of the Su-30SM?

Hole wrote:

Then it must be a modification of the Kh-32, a sort of Kh-32 light.

Isn´t SM1 the designation for the modernisation of the Su-30SM?

marcellogo wrote:Not. S stand for Serial produced, SM stand for Serial Modernized, SM2 stand for Serial 2 modernization, SM3,4 etc stand for the successive modifications.

Yes, in theory it would be but the kh32 is an anti ship missile and Russian Fleet has not ordered Su-34 but Su-30SM instead.

Заместитель министра обороны России Алексей Криворучко и глава ОАК Юрий Слюсарь подписали договор на поставку бомбардировщиков Су-34, истребителей Су-35 и Су-30СМ2 для Воздушно-космических сил (ВКС) России, истребителей Су-30СМ2 для Военно-морского флота (ВМФ), учебно-боевых самолётов Як-130 и тяжёлых военных транспортников Ил-76МД-90А.

UPD: Согласно информации газеты "Ведомости", подписанные контракты охватывают 30 истребителей Су-35С, 24 бомбардировщика Су-34, 25 учебных самолетов Як-130 и 20 DA-42Т, 14 военно-транспортных Ил-76МД-90А и два Ил-112В для ВКС и 21 истребитель Су-30СМ2 для морской авиации.

Газета «Известия» сообщает, что до конца 2020 года совершит первый полет модернизированный истребитель Су-30СМ2 с двигателем АЛ-41Ф-1С, этот самолет в СМИ окрестили как «Супер-Сухой».
Кроме двигателей обновленная версия Су-30СМ получит доработанную бортовую электронику, включая РЛС, оптико-локационную станцию, будет расширена номенклатура авиационных средств поражения (АСП) класса «воздух–воздух» и «воздух–земля».
Известно, что с 2015 года ведется ОКР «Адаптация-Су» по увеличению боевых возможностей и замещению иностранных комплектующих на отечественные истребителей типа Су-30СМ.
Первоначально планировалось усилить вооружение и изменить состав авионики. В таком виде самолет получил обозначение Су-30СМ1.
В 2018 году стало известно о поручении президента России максимально унифицировать Су-30СМ и Су-35С в том числе и двигателю. И ОКБ Сухого сразу приступило к опытно-конструкторским работам (ОКР) по созданию модернизированного истребителя под шифром Су-30СМД.
Была информация в СМИ, что истребитель Су-30СМ в ходе модернизации получит дополнительные технические средства многоканальной системы связи и передачи данных ОСНОД (объединенная система связи, обмена данными, навигации и опознавания) от истребителя пятого поколения Су-57.
Доработанный самолет Су-30СМ с двигателем АЛ-41Ф-1С и более мощной РЛС «Ирбис» вместо нынешнего «Барса» получил обозначение Су-30СМ2, информируют «Известия». На облик нового многоцелевого истребителя большое влияние оказали боевые действия в Сирии, где самолеты Су-30СМ активно использовались в борьбе с ИГИЛ, выполняли другие задачи с самого начала операции ВКС с 2015 года, дополняет ВТС «Бастион».

The Izvestia newspaper reports that the upgraded Su-30SM2 fighter with the AL-41F-1C engine will make its maiden flight by the end of 2020, this aircraft was dubbed in the media as the “Super-Sukhoi”.
In addition to engines, the updated version of the Su-30SM will receive modified on-board electronics, including a radar, an optical-location station, and the range of air-to-air and air-to-ground aircraft weapons will be expanded.
It is known that since 2015, the "Adaptation-Su" R&D project has been underway to increase combat capabilities and replace foreign components with domestic fighters of the Su-30SM type.
Initially, it was planned to strengthen the armament and change the composition of the avionics. In this form, the aircraft received the designation Su-30SM1.
In 2018, it became known about the order of the President of Russia to unify the Su-30SM and Su-35S as much as possible, including the engine. And the Sukhoi Design Bureau immediately began experimental design work (ROC) to create a modernized fighter under the code Su-30SMD.
There was information in the media that the Su-30SM fighter, in the course of modernization, will receive additional technical means of a multi-channel communication and data transmission system OSNOD (unified communication, data exchange, navigation and identification system) from the fifth generation Su-57 fighter.
The modified Su-30SM aircraft with an AL-41F-1S engine and a more powerful Irbis radar instead of the current Bars received the designation Su-30SM2, Izvestia informs. The appearance of the new multipurpose fighter was greatly influenced by the hostilities in Syria, where Su-30SM aircraft were actively used in the fight against ISIS, performed other tasks from the very beginning of the Aerospace Forces operation in 2015, the Bastion military technical cooperation adds.

But later it was decided, that Su-30SM should become upgraded to the level of Su-35

Plus they plan more su-35 so the jet will stay in service for a long time as they build it in the same time as su-57.

GarryB wrote:...the Su-30 was originally intended as a mini AWACS, without air to ground function, but with these upgrades it should be able to function as a mini AWACS against air and ground targets because like AWACS its radar will detect and track both.

Essentially it is a two seat Su-35.

The real question is... which smaller fighters are supposed to support these mini AWACS planes... MiG-35s?  

JohninMK wrote:Not sure if this video has been linked to before, but just in case it hasn't.



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