miketheterrible wrote:None of them have the numbers.
You assume way too much but the protests numbers are evidence that doesn't back up your claim.
First off - no, migrants won't be the deciding factor. No matter what bullshit you can come up with in your head. Especially if both migrant groups hate each other.
Next off, no, liberals don't have half a million in Moscow. That is obvious when they can only get a seat or two.
Navalnys money has dried up, hence why various offices are closed due to bankruptcy. Blok reported on it and so did anti maidan.
Your memory is short, that is for sure. I remember quite vividly that every election Putin is "done for" as liberals would come out. No, Moscow isn't deciding factor first off. Second, the liberals will protest, that's true. But they always do and no matter what happens, they will protest anyway. They will not win. Maybe nationalists may win. But not liberals in any way shape or form. They never were able to in the past with significant more funding and coordination and much stronger allies "Nemtsov" were able to even get past the bridge to the Kremlin walls.
The days of 1992 are over. It isn't gonna happen in our lifetime. Russians aren't as stupid as you think they are. Liberals, yes, but not the rest of Russia. And their little group of liberals won't do shit. They had way bigger opportunities and funding in the past and that didn't amount to anything.
Neither are the Belarussians
But they've gotten to the point, where they're ready to believe and vote for anybody, as long as it's not Lukashenko
Liberals aren't a large group and haven't achieved mass appeal. But it's important to note that the Bolsheviks weren't either.
What the Bolsheviks did was identified material conditions; what each different part of society wanted, and then promised them that.
My bet is that the West will lay down its most crippling economic sanctions on Russia in the 2022-2023 period. And do their best to cripple the rouble again besides with financial operations.
The liberals are organized, funded and extensively supported from abroad. They have the advice of some of the West's best spin-doctors no doubt, and Russia's own experience in revolution to draw on.
No doubt, they'll attempt to appeal and promise to all the groups I've denoted and to anyone just tired of Putin and wanting something else.
Whether they succeed even then is another question. But for them not to, the Kremlin has to loosen the reigns it has on other parties. And one way or the other, admit that the current monopoly of power is not sustainable.
Even if an uprising fails, it will lead to a wave of emigration and damage to the economy. It's best not to let things get to that stage.
The-thing-next-door wrote:Wow what a shitshow....... could the moderators please for once move the defeatist/treasonous/western BS to the talking bollocks thread?
This ain't the 90's no more boys Russia kicked traitor ass in Chechnya they kicked traitor ass in georgia and they still found time to test their weapons on the Cunthood.Integration.Agency. in Syria.
If you want to be defeatist go switch your loyalties and post for europe, the worlds one and only dead empires club, funny how seriously they take roleplaying as important nations.
Defeat is where we're heading for my friend.
And the reason is the same as always - stupidity of the commanders.
Will we be able to hold off the Maidanuts at the gates of Moscow? Well that depends if there's a system by that stage that people would have confidence in and be willing to defend. At the moment, despite the liberasts and allies still being a minority, the amount of people who would want to defend Putin and all his shenanigance, may be even less.
kvs wrote:One has to really gape in awe at the level of retardation of the NATzO sycophants in Russia. They routinely called and still call
the Russian majority as "bydlo" aka stupid chattle and then expect this "bydlo" to vote for them. And, I am not fucking exaggerating.
Every single prominent liberast sycophant shows open contempt to Russia and Russians. These are nothing other than SJW drones
who live in social media echo chambers and piss on anything outside their perverse little bubble reality. You tell them that males
and females are distinct and they get psychotically triggered. You tell them NATzO and its master USA ain't all that, and they
through a tantrum that would make some ADD 8 year old cringe.
These clowns think that they can go on national TV in Russia and claim that the statue on Mamayev Hill is ugly and that the new
statute with the soldier disappearing into a flock of cranes is like a torn skirt. These are the same BLM and Antifa maggots working
for George Soros who are tearing down statues in the USA. These scumbags are the brainless brown shirts working to destroy
and revise history.
Well they are an intelligentsia.
Like any intelligentsia they view the people as sheep, and as their role to think for them, act for them, talk for them.
So to 'the masses' they dress their appeal in all this colorful and romanticized language, while not explaining what their actual plans for Russia are.
The intelligentsia are those that serve as the servants of some elite or strive to become a ruling elite themselves.
The problem is, the current ruling class is exactly the same. They also hold the people for sheep that must be talked down to, appeased with some nonsense, given some phony ideological justifications while they carry out the policies they've long worked out between themselves in their little cabinets.
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