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Here is the CIA BotNet inflating #Navalny's popularity on YouTube.
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Alexei Navalny Video Details $1.3B Mansion Said to Be Vladimir Putin’s Secret Russia Estate
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Tsavo Lion wrote:Alexei Navalny Video Details $1.3B Mansion Said to Be Vladimir Putin’s Secret Russia Estate
You clearly can't be bothered to read this thread and post hate propaganda against Russia.
The alleged Putin residence is a government owned building like Camp David. This is a exactly a Camp David type of property
and does not belong to Putin. You clowns couldn't find Putin's billions so now you just lie about Russian government property.
You and Navalny can both go and get fcuked.
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kvs wrote:Tsavo Lion wrote:Alexei Navalny Video Details $1.3B Mansion Said to Be Vladimir Putin’s Secret Russia Estate
You clearly can't be bothered to read this thread and post hate propaganda against Russia.
The alleged Putin residence is a government owned building like Camp David. This is a exactly a Camp David type of property
and does not belong to Putin. You clowns couldn't find Putin's billions so now you just lie about Russian government property.
You and Navalny can both go and get fcuked.
I, Papa and others told Tsavo he is a useless twat that posts shit.
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I also remember youtube randomly recommending me his channel a while back, I just said to never recommend the channel again, problem solved!
But yeah, you can really tell his popularity took quite the tumble, even online it was very subdued when he came back.
Might he have to actually work for a living soon? Doubtful.
But yeah, you can really tell his popularity took quite the tumble, even online it was very subdued when he came back.
Might he have to actually work for a living soon? Doubtful.
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Everytime Navalny is mentioned on western media the solution would be to mention a real government oppressed hero like Assange or Snowden... people who do not live the millionaires lifestyle and actually did some real good exposing serious criminal activity at the highest levels...
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GarryB wrote:Everytime Navalny is mentioned on western media the solution would be to mention a real government oppressed hero like Assange or Snowden... people who do not live the millionaires lifestyle and actually did some real good exposing serious criminal activity at the highest levels...
Actually, people already do this, for example in twitter, but the usual response from NATzO braindead minions is that Assange and Snowden are Crooks while Navalny is some sort of God send shining beacon for truth and justice
I am convinced that NATzO propaganda services are active online and are employing the same methods that they accuse both China and Russia are doing, hiring online trolls to propagate NATzO narratives across the internet. It is in the interests of both China and Russia to cooperate and expose this fraud.
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There is no doubt that the UK and USA and likely other NATzO hyenas run troll farms. There was information on the UK running
such an outfit to "counter" Russian alleged "troll farms". Of course, the NATzO fake stream media never properly reported this
and instead concocted fiction about troll farms in places such as St. Petersburg. It turned out that the building claimed to
have hosted a troll farm had no such function. The usual lying in the name of all goodness by the self anointed guiding lights
of humanity.
https://www.geopolitica.ru/en/article/us-troll-farms-ai-and-cyberwar-ii
such an outfit to "counter" Russian alleged "troll farms". Of course, the NATzO fake stream media never properly reported this
and instead concocted fiction about troll farms in places such as St. Petersburg. It turned out that the building claimed to
have hosted a troll farm had no such function. The usual lying in the name of all goodness by the self anointed guiding lights
of humanity.
https://www.geopolitica.ru/en/article/us-troll-farms-ai-and-cyberwar-ii
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no, u confuse it with Bocharov Ruchey in Sochi:8 official residences of Russia's president, Vladimir PutinThe alleged Putin residence is a government owned building like Camp David.
not officially, but de-facto it does:This is a exactly a Camp David type of property and does not belong to Putin.
In February 2011 Vladimir Khozhin listed the official residences operated by the Presidential Property Management Department and asserted that the government does not maintain any residence as described by the media. In April Kozhin admitted Kremlin involvement with the project when he said that his office was contracted by Lirus Management to carry out the contract for the construction of the palace. ..
On 19 January 2021, two days after Navalny was detained by Russian authorities upon his return to Russia, a video investigation by him and the Anti-Corruption Foundation (FBK) was published accusing President Vladimir Putin of using fraudulently obtained funds to build the estate for himself in what he called "the world's biggest bribe". In the investigation, Navalny said that the estate is 39 times the size of Monaco and cost over 100 billion rubles ($1.35 billion) to construct. It also showed aerial footage of the estate via a drone and a detailed floorplan of the palace that Navalny said was given by a contractor, which he compared to photographs from inside the palace that were leaked onto the Internet in 2011. He also detailed an elaborate corruption scheme allegedly involving Putin's inner circle that allowed Putin to hide billions of dollars to build the estate.
Putin's Palace
The palace was personally built for Putin but paid for using a secret slush fund created by a group of Russian oligarchs, according to a self-exiled Russian businessman named Sergei Kolesnikov, who provided evidence of the alleged scheme to the BBC.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170123190939/http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
Navalny is being used by the West, but that doesn't mean that his investigations into corruption schemes have no merit whatsoever.
Have a nice day!
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So let me get this straight.
You are using exiled people:
and words like "alleged"
That since it doesn't actually provide documents to prove such statement thus has to rely on words like "alleged" and assumed evidence that is never provided, as proof that this estate is Putin?
Fuck man, you prove me right about you almost every time you type.
So, let me ask this:
Where is the document? Can you please provide the document that shows that this belongs to Putin?
Because, everyone everywhere is asking for this document.
BTW, the "pictures" are all 3d modeling. Not actual pictures.
You are using exiled people:
The palace was personally built for Putin but paid for using a secret slush fund created by a group of Russian oligarchs, according to a self-exiled Russian businessman named Sergei Kolesnikov, who provided evidence of the alleged scheme to the/
and words like "alleged"
the world's biggest bribe". In the investigation, Navalny said that the estate is 39 times the size of Monaco and cost over 100 billion rubles ($1.35 billion) to construct. It also showed aerial footage of the estate via a drone and a detailed floorplan of the palace that Navalny said was given by a contractor, which he compared to photographs from inside the palace that were leaked onto the Internet in 2011. He also detailed an elaborate corruption scheme allegedly involving Putin's inner circle that allowed Putin to hide billions of dollars to build the estate.
That since it doesn't actually provide documents to prove such statement thus has to rely on words like "alleged" and assumed evidence that is never provided, as proof that this estate is Putin?
Fuck man, you prove me right about you almost every time you type.
So, let me ask this:
Where is the document? Can you please provide the document that shows that this belongs to Putin?
Because, everyone everywhere is asking for this document.
BTW, the "pictures" are all 3d modeling. Not actual pictures.
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All the documents r produced in the video narrated by Navalny; they show how the $ donated by the oligarchs r being used to build & renovate the place complex, buy interior furnishings, vineries & hatcheries. Putin isn't going to get a title to them in his name- that would defeat the purpose of him being free of any corruption. A KGB "man must have clean hands, a cool head and a warm heart." -- as first chief of Soviet security Felix Dzerzhinsky said.
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So the documents shown it's under different names but nothing states Putin himself so it's all hearsay and assumptions.
You know, those don't actually hold weight in a court of law, right?
Maybe in a banana republic.
Also Navalny plagerized the documents from the BBC claims from 2011.
So nothing new and assumptions.
Congrats for proving me right yet again.
You know, those don't actually hold weight in a court of law, right?
Maybe in a banana republic.
Also Navalny plagerized the documents from the BBC claims from 2011.
So nothing new and assumptions.
Congrats for proving me right yet again.
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Here you go, a good reason on this Putin mansion bullshit
https://www.stalkerzone.org/why-would-putin-need-palaces/
https://www.stalkerzone.org/why-would-putin-need-palaces/
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Tsavo Lion wrote:All the documents r produced in the video narrated by Navalny; they show how the $ donated by the oligarchs r being used to build & renovate the place complex, buy interior furnishings, vineries & hatcheries. Putin isn't going to get a title to them in his name- that would defeat the purpose of him being free of any corruption. A KGB "man must have clean hands, a cool head and a warm heart." -- as first chief of Soviet security Felix Dzerzhinsky said.
In Russia deeds are public documents. So one of your anti-corruption 5th column "heroes" can visit the land registry office and
find out who owns the property.
Since private buildings of "oligarchs" are now being counted as Putin's property, we have the same cookie cutter anti-Russian hate
propaganda as state owned buildings being listed as "owned" by Putin. I assumed there were photos showing Putin staying
at this particular property. But there aren't. So the association with Putin is not even circumstantial. It is "both the building
and Putin are located in Russia, therefore the building belongs to Putin".
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"Self-Exiled" means the guy has fled the country because he is a criminal.
Following the logic that Putins just has to know somebody to own all his property would mean that Biden is worth around 500 Bill. $ because he knows Gates, Buffet, Soros, Bezoz, Musk...
Following the logic that Putins just has to know somebody to own all his property would mean that Biden is worth around 500 Bill. $ because he knows Gates, Buffet, Soros, Bezoz, Musk...
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These expose about Navalny and co's latest propaganda piece against Putin is important, however, It is also important to note that NATzO has intensified its information warfare against Russia and Navalny's latest stunt is just part of it. In other matters, there are now news that the future of Nord Stream 2 has become bleak, now this could be another exaggerated and politically charged article but the latest actions by NATzO suggests that they are increasing hostilities against Russia in all angles from economy to politics. Russia can't just weather these attacks, it needs to respond in a way that will deal twice as much cost to America.
I know there are some folks here who are in favor of abandoning NS 2, but, you are also the same folks who say that if NATzO hates Putin, then he must be doing something good. Well, America hates NS 2, so it must mean something good for Russia and its real partners.
I know there are some folks here who are in favor of abandoning NS 2, but, you are also the same folks who say that if NATzO hates Putin, then he must be doing something good. Well, America hates NS 2, so it must mean something good for Russia and its real partners.
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PhSt wrote:These expose about Navalny and co's latest propaganda piece against Putin is important, however, It is also important to note that NATzO has intensified its information warfare against Russia and Navalny's latest stunt is just part of it. In other matters, there are now news that the future of Nord Stream 2 has become bleak, now this could be another exaggerated and politically charged article but the latest actions by NATzO suggests that they are increasing hostilities against Russia in all angles from economy to politics. Russia can't just weather these attacks, it needs to respond in a way that will deal twice as much cost to America.
I know there are some folks here who are in favor of abandoning NS 2, but, you are also the same folks who say that if NATzO hates Putin, then he must be doing something good. Well, America hates NS 2, so it must mean something good for Russia and its real partners.
It is a good way to cement a long term contract and bypass Ukraine for gas transport to Europe. If though they do decide to cancel it because of US and EU being shitheads, then Russia will have to deal with the fact that they will have to rely on LNG to be sold to EU. Russia is rather very pussy when regarding US and EU. It needs to stop and grow some balls.
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As I have been saying for a long time, let EU-tardia sink in its own shit. The legends-in-their-own-minds deciders in Bruxelles
think that Russia will be forced to eat their shit because it is a gas station posing as a country. Russia can make these
retards eat their own shit by invoking force majeure for brazen political sabotage of Gazprom's gas business. Bruxelles
can then proceed to buy that Qatari gas they think comes from America and think is much cheaper than pipeline gas from
Russia.
EU-tardia and its owner Uncle Swine-shit will be able to do fuckall about Russia reducing its exports to EU-tardia by 60 bcm/year.
think that Russia will be forced to eat their shit because it is a gas station posing as a country. Russia can make these
retards eat their own shit by invoking force majeure for brazen political sabotage of Gazprom's gas business. Bruxelles
can then proceed to buy that Qatari gas they think comes from America and think is much cheaper than pipeline gas from
Russia.
EU-tardia and its owner Uncle Swine-shit will be able to do fuckall about Russia reducing its exports to EU-tardia by 60 bcm/year.
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In my opinion, we are being played by the intelligence people behind this loser and the more we argue about it just increases the trending hits designed to make this nobody look important 
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kvs wrote:In Russia deeds are public documents. So one of your anti-corruption 5th column "heroes" can visit the land registry office and find out who owns the property.-Navaly's team already done that; that complex changed hands at least once & was owned by Putin's inner circle of friends, relatives, & partners. They "own it" on his behalf. It was a well known method in USSR & now Russia of hiding assets to avoid raising suspicions &, if that fails, minimize confiscations.
Since private buildings of "oligarchs" are now being counted as Putin's property,..- if they really were as such, the FSB wouldn't be guarding them with fences, guard houses, & restricted sea & air areas around the complex wouldn't be there, as well as 3 helipads, a comm. tower, numerous 2 headed eagles & regal style apartments, gardens, kitchens, etc., all fit for for a king.
I assumed there were photos showing Putin staying
at this particular property. But there aren't. - in the video, he says that 6 years ago there was mold buildup, & now many premises must be treated & renovated. Until it's done, Putin isn't going to risk his health coming there even for a few minutes. Even if/when he stays there in the future, the mere absence of pics of him there isn't going to prove his absence there.
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TLion, you must be trolling... Surely you cannot actually believe any of that utter bullshit.
What the fuck is in the water in the US that makes people so friggin stupid?
"Navaly's team already done that; that complex changed hands at least once & was owned by Putin's inner circle of friends, relatives, & partners. They "own it" on his behalf. It was a well known method in USSR & now Russia of hiding assets to avoid raising suspicions &, if that fails, minimize confiscations"
Bullshit. Care to name names? Who the fuck is "Putin's inner circle of friends, relatives, & partners"??? Thats just a stupid smear for clueless idiots to swallow.
Bah... it's a waste of time trying to talk sense to some folk....
What the fuck is in the water in the US that makes people so friggin stupid?
"Navaly's team already done that; that complex changed hands at least once & was owned by Putin's inner circle of friends, relatives, & partners. They "own it" on his behalf. It was a well known method in USSR & now Russia of hiding assets to avoid raising suspicions &, if that fails, minimize confiscations"
Bullshit. Care to name names? Who the fuck is "Putin's inner circle of friends, relatives, & partners"??? Thats just a stupid smear for clueless idiots to swallow.
Bah... it's a waste of time trying to talk sense to some folk....
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There is no doubt that the UK and USA and likely other NATzO hyenas run troll farms.
Of course they do, and there were several cases where it was proven that the people who run these troll farms and make lots of money are exwestern intel people earning a bit on the side.
There was that organisation in the UK that was set up, it was claimed because they suspected that Russia had set up a Russian equivalent to promote pro Russian BS throughout europe... except it turns out there was no such Russian equivalent... just the western version to attack anyone who even remotely said something not bad about Russia. Any european politician who said they could work with putin if it was in their countries interests... ie not as bad as most euro trash polis who take up the backside anything the US wants shoved up there, and they use their network of "reporters" and investigative sites like Bellingcat to trash that politician with all sorts of made up bullshit till they lose their career. The British government obviously fund it because it bad mouths Jeremy Corbin and the like, which suits them just fine.
BTW Tsavo... the "highly likely" accusation holds no water... in fact the reverse is true... the fact that such unsubstantiated accusations agaisnt Putin serve western narratives so perfectly yet without any actual evidence at all suggests it is all just made up bullshit western propaganda.
Remember that release of the Panama papers that was a scandal a while back where huge numbers of famous people were exposed as having offshore accounts and lots of money stashed in places where they don't pay tax... Putin was not mentioned...
@BIG GAZZA... of course he believes it....he lives in the US and every politician is crooked and makes lots and lots of money from questionable sources... that is how the machinery is greased... he thinks Putin is just a Clinton or Trump... but obviously if he was he would be no threat at all because he would be so easy to just buy.
The fact that the west can't just name a price and buy Putin is why Putin has been such a thorn in their side.... they can't bribe him and they can't kill him (which is either plan A or plan B)... that is why they depise him. Hahahaahahaaa
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I find it hilarious that our resident dumbass repeats a mantra but provides zero evidence of collaboration that this is Putin's house but in the words of "these people know Putin and thus it's his", believes this BS. But real theft In the form of a golden toilet and a bar installed in Russia's Airforce one under US and Navalny backed Yeltsin gets no mention.
As Garry said, Panama papers says all. And it had US leaders and officials on it. Not Russia's President. Funny how that is forgotten about now
As Garry said, Panama papers says all. And it had US leaders and officials on it. Not Russia's President. Funny how that is forgotten about now
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So Khordokovski and the like are funding through Nexta (Polish group being used for regime change in Belarus and Russia), protests this weekend against Russian authorities over Navalny.
Should be interesting. Hopefully the authorities are strong on this one. And give real punishment.
They should also punish Nexta by somehow blocking/banning them.
Should be interesting. Hopefully the authorities are strong on this one. And give real punishment.
They should also punish Nexta by somehow blocking/banning them.
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Real evidence would be photos of Putin hanging out at "his mansion" on a regular basis and not visiting. Do I get to claim ownership
of all the property that my friends and, yes indeed, relatives own? What sort of retarded drivel is this? Claiming something is
not proving something.
Also, this yapping about a bribe must be attached to some actual evidence of service rendered. What did Putin supposedly do for
the alleged $1.3 billion bribe? Yapping about "something" doesn't cut it. There has to be a specific action in return for a bribe
for it to be called a bribe.
Amerislimes who live in the land of politicians owned by their bribe masters (lobbyists and campaign contributors) should not
be throwing stones.
Note the tin foil hat nature of Navalny's accusations. They are conspiracy theory style plausibility arguments. Since Putin
knows rich people he must be enabling them and they must be doing him favours. Following such "analysis" every fucking
politician in the west is guilty of the same "crimes". We have here a desperate attempt to fling shit at Russia and hope
some of it sticks. It does not matter what idiots in NATzO believe, the Russian public has more IQ than it is being given
credit for by chuvinist western haters.
of all the property that my friends and, yes indeed, relatives own? What sort of retarded drivel is this? Claiming something is
not proving something.
Also, this yapping about a bribe must be attached to some actual evidence of service rendered. What did Putin supposedly do for
the alleged $1.3 billion bribe? Yapping about "something" doesn't cut it. There has to be a specific action in return for a bribe
for it to be called a bribe.
Amerislimes who live in the land of politicians owned by their bribe masters (lobbyists and campaign contributors) should not
be throwing stones.
Note the tin foil hat nature of Navalny's accusations. They are conspiracy theory style plausibility arguments. Since Putin
knows rich people he must be enabling them and they must be doing him favours. Following such "analysis" every fucking
politician in the west is guilty of the same "crimes". We have here a desperate attempt to fling shit at Russia and hope
some of it sticks. It does not matter what idiots in NATzO believe, the Russian public has more IQ than it is being given
credit for by chuvinist western haters.