Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


5 posters

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18514
    Points : 19019
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  George1 Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:03 am

    Israel to Send First Delegation to Sudan After Normalising Ties, Media Reports


    Last edited by George1 on Thu May 11, 2023 5:19 pm; edited 2 times in total
    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18514
    Points : 19019
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  George1 Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:33 am

    Knesset Ratifies Israel-Bahrain Peace Deal

    By a vote of 62 to 14, the Knesset plenum approved Tuesday evening the joint communique signed by Israel and Bahrain on the “establishment of diplomatic, peaceful and friendly relations.” The vote followed a lengthy debate which included close to 80 four-minute speeches.

    https://www.jerusalemonline.com/knesset-ratifies-israel-bahrain-peace-deal/
    ahmedfire
    ahmedfire


    Posts : 2366
    Points : 2548
    Join date : 2010-11-11
    Location : The Land Of Pharaohs

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  ahmedfire Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:15 pm

    It's all a US scenario to start with the small countries like Bahrain ,UAE and Qatar who already are full controlled by US and pushing them for normalization with Israel .

    Then they will go to a broken country like Sudan asking it to do the same thing so that the sanctions would be lifted .

    Thus is dramatic ,they are accusing Sudan because Osama Bin Laden was there for years who was resposible of Dar es Salaam and Nairobi bombings 1998 .

    But US is responsible of protecting a state that use the force to terror people and to kill the babies inside their wombs,so some people have price and some don't and actually this what spread the hate around this world .

    Neglecting the main actions but discussing and trending the backfire .


    Last edited by ahmedfire on Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:23 pm; edited 1 time in total
    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18514
    Points : 19019
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  George1 Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:17 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:It's all a US scenario to start with the small countries like Bahrain ,UAE and Qatar who already are full controlled by US and pushing them for normalization with Israel .

    Then they will go to a broken country like Sudan asking it to do the same thing so that the sanctions would be lifted .

    Thus is drmatic ,they are accusing Sudan because Osama Bin Laden was there for years who was resposible of Dar es Salaam and Nairobi bombings 1998 .

    But US is responsible of protecting a state that use the force to terror people and to kill the babies inside their wombs,so some people have price and some don't and actually this what spread the hate around this world .

    Neglecting the main actions but discussing and trending the backfire .

    Sudan however isnt controlled by US. But they have their own interests. Its also a tactic from Israel to exploit the weaknesses of some arab states in international arena
    ahmedfire
    ahmedfire


    Posts : 2366
    Points : 2548
    Join date : 2010-11-11
    Location : The Land Of Pharaohs

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  ahmedfire Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:06 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Sudan however isnt controlled by US. But they have their own interests. Its also a tactic from Israel to exploit the weaknesses of some arab states in international arena

    Sudanese have interests because they lost around $ 70b due to the sanctions .

    George1 likes this post

    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18514
    Points : 19019
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  George1 Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:28 am

    UAE, Bahrain and Israel

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations 10804610
    ahmedfire
    ahmedfire


    Posts : 2366
    Points : 2548
    Join date : 2010-11-11
    Location : The Land Of Pharaohs

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  ahmedfire Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:17 pm

    Actually Morroco has relations with Israel which upgraded the Moroccan F-5 and sold them some IAF drones and missiles .Mohamed VI actually don't attened many of the Arab's meeting which discuss the Palestine's case.

    Turkey has full relations with Israel , the Turkish contracting companies had built half of Tel Aviv towers ,also they have a lot of military co-operation .

    ahmedfire
    ahmedfire


    Posts : 2366
    Points : 2548
    Join date : 2010-11-11
    Location : The Land Of Pharaohs

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  ahmedfire Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:04 pm

    As  expected

    Trump announces Israel and Morocco to normalize relations

    In return ,US recognized Morocco's sovereignty over the Western Sahara .

    It would be better if they recognized Ceuta and Melilla which is occupied by Spain but of course they wouldn't  Laughing

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Ceuta_10
    Isos
    Isos


    Posts : 11598
    Points : 11566
    Join date : 2015-11-06

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  Isos Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:16 pm

    Those are not real "normalizations". Only done to achieve eco/political goals. As soon as their populations will start talking bad about israel they will come back yo their old position concerning israel. Until that "making peace" is benefic for them (UAE get f-35, Morocco support for Sahara...).
    magnumcromagnon
    magnumcromagnon


    Posts : 8138
    Points : 8273
    Join date : 2013-12-05
    Location : Pindos ave., Pindosville, Pindosylvania, Pindostan

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:29 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:As  expected

    Trump announces Israel and Morocco to normalize relations

    In return ,US recognized Morocco's sovereignty over the Western Sahara .

    It would be better if they recognized Ceuta and Melilla which is occupied by Spain but of course they wouldn't  Laughing

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Ceuta_10

    So they're trying to instigate Algerian Iskander's to turn Moron-ccan leaders in to fields of Saffron I see?
    ahmedfire
    ahmedfire


    Posts : 2366
    Points : 2548
    Join date : 2010-11-11
    Location : The Land Of Pharaohs

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  ahmedfire Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:41 pm

    Those are not real "normalizations". Only done to achieve eco/political goals. As soon as their populations will start talking bad about israel they will come back yo their old position concerning israel. Until that "making peace" is benefic for them (UAE get f-35, Morocco support for Sahara...).

    People there don't feel threat from Israel ,specially UAE .Most of Israelis ministers are actually Morrocan jews .


    So they're trying to instigate Algerian Iskander's to turn Moron-ccan leaders in to fields of Saffron I see?

    It will be a happy day in Israel if such conflict happened .
    magnumcromagnon
    magnumcromagnon


    Posts : 8138
    Points : 8273
    Join date : 2013-12-05
    Location : Pindos ave., Pindosville, Pindosylvania, Pindostan

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:50 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:It will be a happy day in Israel if such conflict happened .
    Moron-cco is one of the longest serving/lasting vassal puppet states of Uncle Sham, and are guilty of supporting Tuareg Jihadists in Mali to justify France's military conquest of Malian uranium. The GCC vermin leadership are joined at the hip with USrael, they've never really been enemies with USrael but their leaders have to pretend to have concern for Palestine. The GCC vermin leaders have never funded insurgency in USrael like they've had in Afghanistan in the 1980's, and in Syria/Iraq now. The whole 'peace' ordeal is a complete Orwellian sham! Rolling Eyes

    flamming_python and nomadski like this post

    ahmedfire
    ahmedfire


    Posts : 2366
    Points : 2548
    Join date : 2010-11-11
    Location : The Land Of Pharaohs

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  ahmedfire Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:29 pm

    George1 wrote:Israel to Send First Delegation to Sudan After Normalising Ties, Media Reports

    And here is the gift from the US  Twisted Evil

    US officially removes Sudan from State Sponsor of Terror list: Embassy

    George1 likes this post

    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40516
    Points : 41016
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  GarryB Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:08 am

    Just pay the fine and suck up to the relevant people and you too can murder people in your embassies around the world but still be considered squeaky clean...

    ahmedfire and magnumcromagnon like this post

    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18514
    Points : 19019
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  George1 Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:43 pm

    Pakistan comes under pressure to normalize relations with Israel
    News Desk by News Desk
    2020-12-19

    BEIRUT, LEBANON (6:45 P.M.) – In article posted by Israel Hayom on Wednesday, the newspaper reported that a Pakistani government aide met with Israeli officials during a trip to Tel Aviv.

    Citing a source in the Israeli cabinet, the newspaper reported the adviser to Prime Minister Imran Khan flew business class from Islamabad to London, before making his way to Ben Gurion Airport on November 20th.

    Khan’s adviser reportedly took British Airways Flight 165 to Ben Gurion Airport and stayed for a few days in Israel, meeting several high-ranking Israeli officials.
    ADVERTISEMENT

    Separately on Wednesday, Noor Dahri, founder and executive director of the UK-based Islamic Theology of Counter Terrorism (ITCT), claimed that Khan’s advisor had travelled to Tel Aviv on his British passport to propose the Pakistan-Israel normalization in return for the regime’s support for Islamabad “to halt down Pakistan’s current cold situation with the Arab countries as well as … in many international issues.”

    In an interview with Israel’s i24 News TV channel, Dahri also claimed that the official “was welcomed by the Israeli officials at the airport as the visit was approved by the US.”

    He, the researcher added, met the head of Israel’s Mossad spy agency, Yossi Cohen, and delivered a secret message of the Pakistani army chief to him.

    The aide later held talks with several political officials and diplomats at the Israeli Foreign Ministry, where he and delivered the message of the Pakistani premier, he noted.

    “Pakistan is facing pressure from Arab countries to leave the Turkish bloc and normalize ties with Israel,” Dahri said.
    ALSO READ  US officials allegedly claim Israel is behind assassination of Iranian nuclear scientist

    Pakistan has a traditionally close partnership with Saudi Arabia and receives crucial financial assistance and oil supplies from the kingdom.

    But, it has in recent years sided with Turkey on a range of regional issues in a move that has undermined Islamabad’s relations with Riyadh and Abu Dhabi.

    Some reports say Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has over the past few months refused to meet with Khan. The kingdom also almost completely halted its oil supplies to Pakistan and even sought back the $3 billion in aid money provided as a loan to Islamabad.

    In November, the Pakistani prime minister revealed that his country is “under pressure from friendly countries to recognize Israel,” adding, however, “We will not do so without a fair settlement to the Palestinians.”

    Many speculated that Khan was actually referring to Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

    The Pakistani Foreign Ministry says Islamabad has no plans to recognize Israel and establish diplomatic ties with it.
    Asked to name the countries exerting pressure on Pakistan, he replied, “Leave this . There are things we cannot say. We have good relations with them.”

    “Let us stand on our own feet in terms of the economy, then you may ask these questions,” he further said, referring to Pakistan’s economic dependence on the oil-rich Persian Gulf states.

    Also in November, Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry Spokesman Zahid Hafeez Chaudhri emphasized that Islamabad will not establish relations with the Tel Aviv regime until there is “a viable, independent and contiguous” Palestinian state acceptable to the Palestinians.

    Pakistan “steadfastly supports the Palestinian people’s inalienable right to self-determination,” he said in a statement. “For just and lasting peace, it is imperative to have a two-state solution in accordance with the relevant United Nations and OIC (Organization of Islamic Cooperation) resolutions, with the pre-1967 borders, and al-Quds al-Sharif as the capital of a viable, independent and contiguous Palestinian State.”
    ALSO READ  Israel faces threat unlike before in future conflict with Hezbollah: INSS

    In recent months, four Arab countries — the UAE, Bahrain, Sudan and Morocco — have established formal diplomatic relations with Israel in deals brokered by the US.

    The normalization trend has sparked widespread anger among the Pakistani people, who have strong feelings for the Palestinian cause.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pakistan-comes-under-pressure-to-normalize-relations-with-israel/
    magnumcromagnon
    magnumcromagnon


    Posts : 8138
    Points : 8273
    Join date : 2013-12-05
    Location : Pindos ave., Pindosville, Pindosylvania, Pindostan

    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:03 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Pakistan comes under pressure to normalize relations with Israel
    News Desk by News Desk
    2020-12-19

    BEIRUT, LEBANON (6:45 P.M.) – In article posted by Israel Hayom on Wednesday, the newspaper reported that a Pakistani government aide met with Israeli officials during a trip to Tel Aviv.

    Citing a source in the Israeli cabinet, the newspaper reported the adviser to Prime Minister Imran Khan flew business class from Islamabad to London, before making his way to Ben Gurion Airport on November 20th.

    Khan’s adviser reportedly took British Airways Flight 165 to Ben Gurion Airport and stayed for a few days in Israel, meeting several high-ranking Israeli officials.
    ADVERTISEMENT

    Separately on Wednesday, Noor Dahri, founder and executive director of the UK-based Islamic Theology of Counter Terrorism (ITCT), claimed that Khan’s advisor had travelled to Tel Aviv on his British passport to propose the Pakistan-Israel normalization in return for the regime’s support for Islamabad “to halt down Pakistan’s current cold situation with the Arab countries as well as … in many international issues.”

    In an interview with Israel’s i24 News TV channel, Dahri also claimed that the official “was welcomed by the Israeli officials at the airport as the visit was approved by the US.”

    He, the researcher added, met the head of Israel’s Mossad spy agency, Yossi Cohen, and delivered a secret message of the Pakistani army chief to him.

    The aide later held talks with several political officials and diplomats at the Israeli Foreign Ministry, where he and delivered the message of the Pakistani premier, he noted.

    “Pakistan is facing pressure from Arab countries to leave the Turkish bloc and normalize ties with Israel,” Dahri said.
    ALSO READ  US officials allegedly claim Israel is behind assassination of Iranian nuclear scientist

    Pakistan has a traditionally close partnership with Saudi Arabia and receives crucial financial assistance and oil supplies from the kingdom.

    But, it has in recent years sided with Turkey on a range of regional issues in a move that has undermined Islamabad’s relations with Riyadh and Abu Dhabi.

    Some reports say Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has over the past few months refused to meet with Khan. The kingdom also almost completely halted its oil supplies to Pakistan and even sought back the $3 billion in aid money provided as a loan to Islamabad.

    In November, the Pakistani prime minister revealed that his country is “under pressure from friendly countries to recognize Israel,” adding, however, “We will not do so without a fair settlement to the Palestinians.”

    Many speculated that Khan was actually referring to Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

    The Pakistani Foreign Ministry says Islamabad has no plans to recognize Israel and establish diplomatic ties with it.
    Asked to name the countries exerting pressure on Pakistan, he replied, “Leave this . There are things we cannot say. We have good relations with them.”

    “Let us stand on our own feet in terms of the economy, then you may ask these questions,” he further said, referring to Pakistan’s economic dependence on the oil-rich Persian Gulf states.

    Also in November, Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry Spokesman Zahid Hafeez Chaudhri emphasized that Islamabad will not establish relations with the Tel Aviv regime until there is “a viable, independent and contiguous” Palestinian state acceptable to the Palestinians.

    Pakistan “steadfastly supports the Palestinian people’s inalienable right to self-determination,” he said in a statement. “For just and lasting peace, it is imperative to have a two-state solution in accordance with the relevant United Nations and OIC (Organization of Islamic Cooperation) resolutions, with the pre-1967 borders, and al-Quds al-Sharif as the capital of a viable, independent and contiguous Palestinian State.”
    ALSO READ  Israel faces threat unlike before in future conflict with Hezbollah: INSS

    In recent months, four Arab countries — the UAE, Bahrain, Sudan and Morocco — have established formal diplomatic relations with Israel in deals brokered by the US.

    The normalization trend has sparked widespread anger among the Pakistani people, who have strong feelings for the Palestinian cause.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pakistan-comes-under-pressure-to-normalize-relations-with-israel/

    I don't see what's the point of normalizing relations if I was the Pakistani leadership, they're (USrael) allied and arming India so why would relations be important for them? But then again it's 2020, if Vucic can support Kosovo recognition and have support from his 'patriots' Wink than anything can happen. dunno

    flamming_python likes this post


    Sponsored content


    Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations Empty Re: Israel-Arab states normalisation of relations

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:31 am