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Politics and Government of Russia
PhSt- Posts : 1362
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- Post n°676
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
where is a lol button when you need one
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kvs- Posts : 15617
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- Post n°677
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
Children of high calibre parents are not guaranteed to have any substance. Many of them "rebel" against the "oppression"
of their parents even if it is about not being coddled to the degree they desire. I would not be surprised if the bimbo shown is
actually some not-so-closet 5th column retard. She would be part of the woke mob in the west.
Ideology cannot cure mental inadequacy. Only bitter life experience has a chance. If she really is a 5th column maggot, then
her father should disown her.
of their parents even if it is about not being coddled to the degree they desire. I would not be surprised if the bimbo shown is
actually some not-so-closet 5th column retard. She would be part of the woke mob in the west.
Ideology cannot cure mental inadequacy. Only bitter life experience has a chance. If she really is a 5th column maggot, then
her father should disown her.
Hole- Posts : 11011
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- Post n°678
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
Looks quite similar to the german "Schweigefuchs", which is used be someone (mostly a teacher or parent) to bring someone (mostly children) to shut the f... up. Don´t know if there is something familiar in Russia but it so then it could mean that she wants the opponents of her team to shut up.
ALAMO- Posts : 7232
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- Post n°679
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
miketheterrible wrote:I hope it was sarcasm
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Why?
I know, you dog, she is not in your league
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Not even close to the ones you are used to fap to...
Get serious lads, really...
Besides, what extra context does it adds?
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She cheered the national team, and you were biased enough to make that a crime.
You should be ashamed, to be honest
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I suppose that you mixed her with older sister, Julia.
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But this one, is an psychologist ... and in line of MES for 20 years ...
I know, not impressing ...
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kvs- Posts : 15617
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- Post n°680
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
Hole wrote:Looks quite similar to the german "Schweigefuchs", which is used be someone (mostly a teacher or parent) to bring someone (mostly children) to shut the f... up. Don´t know if there is something familiar in Russia but it so then it could mean that she wants the opponents of her team to shut up.
Russia has adapted some German gestures, for example the "fick" one which is called "fig" in Russian (the thumb has moved from between
the four other fingers to between the index and middle fingers). In Russian the gesture means "you are not getting anything" with a hint of
"sod off".
I am not familiar with the particular one you note, but maybe it has diffused into Russia in the last 40 years. But considering the ethnic background
of this woman I think some Turkic nationalist sentiment is more likely. Everybody is oppressed even when they are not.
flamming_python- Posts : 9368
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- Post n°681
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
I doubt any Turkic bullshit is likely. Tuva has a sort of nationalist streak but they really have no time for Turkey and their gangs/organizations, they're not even Muslim.
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calripson- Posts : 753
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- Post n°682
Foreigners In Russia
New regulations require foreigners living in Russia who are non-diplomats to obtain psychiatric and medical evaluation every 90 days. In Moscow, this requires an 80-kilometer trek which has to be repeated 10 days later in person to pick up the results. Obviously, most people do not need psychiatric evaluations every 90 days (nor syphilis tests every 90 days): it clearly creates a message for foreigners to leave and it also probably enables the psychiatrist to profile the individual to figure out who they really are and what they are doing in Russia.
kvs- Posts : 15617
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- Post n°683
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
calripson wrote:New regulations require foreigners living in Russia who are non-diplomats to obtain psychiatric and medical evaluation every 90 days. In Moscow, this requires an 80-kilometer trek which has to be repeated 10 days later in person to pick up the results. Obviously, most people do not need psychiatric evaluations every 90 days (nor syphilis tests every 90 days): it clearly creates a message for foreigners to leave and it also probably enables the psychiatrist to profile the individual to figure out who they really are and what they are doing in Russia.
Wow, that's extreme. Russia appears to be expecting a full bore subversion campaign by NATzO.
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miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°684
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
kvs wrote:calripson wrote:New regulations require foreigners living in Russia who are non-diplomats to obtain psychiatric and medical evaluation every 90 days. In Moscow, this requires an 80-kilometer trek which has to be repeated 10 days later in person to pick up the results. Obviously, most people do not need psychiatric evaluations every 90 days (nor syphilis tests every 90 days): it clearly creates a message for foreigners to leave and it also probably enables the psychiatrist to profile the individual to figure out who they really are and what they are doing in Russia.
Wow, that's extreme. Russia appears to be expecting a full bore subversion campaign by NATzO.
Who knows how well it will stand up. Maybe it's to entice others to not live in Moscow but other areas where the trek isn't as bad.
But it will probably be changed sooner than later.
calripson- Posts : 753
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- Post n°685
Undesired Effects
One of the undesired effects I know of is Russian/Foreign marriages with children - these are people who have lived in Russia for years and who now plan to leave and to take their spouses/kids with them. These are Russian kids who would have been raised in Russia. Not exactly the demographic effect you need.
kvs- Posts : 15617
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- Post n°686
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
calripson wrote:One of the undesired effects I know of is Russian/Foreign marriages with children - these are people who have lived in Russia for years and who now plan to leave and to take their spouses/kids with them. These are Russian kids who would have been raised in Russia. Not exactly the demographic effect you need.
There have been some nasty cases. A Finnish father abducted his child a few years ago and Finland automatically approved this abduction.
If it was a western family separation case, the mother would have received priority. In Canada we have the orange alert system which routinely
tags abductions by parents. The west is a steaming pile of hate-filled hypocrisy.
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owais.usmani- Posts : 1798
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- Post n°687
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51
To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.
To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.
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kvs- Posts : 15617
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- Post n°688
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
owais.usmani wrote:https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51
To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.
The MHSE is a nest of NATzO bootlick monetarists. That is not hyperbole that is fact. They have systematically pushed for a 5th column
economics agenda where Russia should surrender itself as a colony to NATzO and let the "big boys" "invest" (for some reason these
investments require Russia to bend over and take it). If you think MHSE, then think Kudrin and Illarionov and worse.
They and their "studies" are not credible.
Who are the people getting the bribes? Putin and his "oligarch crew"?
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miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°689
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
kvs wrote:owais.usmani wrote:https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51
To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.
The MHSE is a nest of NATzO bootlick monetarists. That is not hyperbole that is fact. They have systematically pushed for a 5th column
economics agenda where Russia should surrender itself as a colony to NATzO and let the "big boys" "invest" (for some reason these
investments require Russia to bend over and take it). If you think MHSE, then think Kudrin and Illarionov and worse.
They and their "studies" are not credible.
Who are the people getting the bribes? Putin and his "oligarch crew"?
The MHSE hasnt been credible since forever. I mean, it is Gaidars institute after all, and him and his ilk were corrupt as shit.
So where do they get their "numbers" from?
I imagine someone will digest what MHSE said and will blow it apart eventually in a video.
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kvs- Posts : 15617
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- Post n°690
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
This "report" is exactly the sort of propaganda talking point feed-in I was talking about in another post.
Now we will have western and 5th column Russian fake stream media and bloggers spooging themselves
repeating it as God Given Truth and not the transparent fakery that it is.
As you point out, where do they get their numbers? From surveys?
Now we will have western and 5th column Russian fake stream media and bloggers spooging themselves
repeating it as God Given Truth and not the transparent fakery that it is.
As you point out, where do they get their numbers? From surveys?
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miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°691
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
kvs wrote:This "report" is exactly the sort of propaganda talking point feed-in I was talking about in another post.
Now we will have western and 5th column Russian fake stream media and bloggers spooging themselves
repeating it as God Given Truth and not the transparent fakery that it is.
As you point out, where do they get their numbers? From surveys?![]()
That's it though. How do they get the numbers? Did some random business people just tell them? Was any proof provided? Names and companies along with government officials?
From my understanding, the prime minister opened up an online portal for businesses to register for taxes, submit taxes and even apply for grants. I'm also certain getting contracts was part of it too as it makes it far more transparent.
So for all we know, they could be calculating some random survey from Daegestan, Ingushetia, Chechnya or whatever region where clan mentality is still important for both business and social alike. I don't doubt some in Moscow city council indulge in it too but my understanding is most of these contracts are published online anyway.
It is just Gaidar nonsense honestly. When the guy died, I don't think anyone shed a tear.
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ALAMO- Posts : 7232
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- Post n°692
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
Why are you hyping, again?
This 22% is 1/3 of what the Murican MIC is bribing, in daylight.
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This 22% is 1/3 of what the Murican MIC is bribing, in daylight.
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kvs- Posts : 15617
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- Post n°693
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
I will admit that corruption is more polished in the west. In Russia it is still an openly criminal activity.
The only thing that really matters is if the whip is cracked eventually. Such as we had with Vostochny Cosmodrome.
A similar situation developed with the Northern Latitudinal Diameter railway project. It was given out to private companies
to undertake and they f*cked it over. As a result the project had to be put back in government hands and will be delayed
by three years.
A clear pattern can be seen. Government money going into the hands of precious, precious and magical private companies
is squandered. This is not a uniquely Russian problem. It also happens in the west on a massive scale, but the private
companies own western governments so they have developed a shroud of legitimacy through assorted legislative tricks.
Another aspect is that in Russia the lack of control of the government by private outfits leads to a situation where they
tend to operate in a fly-by-night fashion. Steal and run. So they have less incentive to clean up their image since they
do not have the confidence that they will be around next year.
Reality is always more complex than any ideology.
The only thing that really matters is if the whip is cracked eventually. Such as we had with Vostochny Cosmodrome.
A similar situation developed with the Northern Latitudinal Diameter railway project. It was given out to private companies
to undertake and they f*cked it over. As a result the project had to be put back in government hands and will be delayed
by three years.
A clear pattern can be seen. Government money going into the hands of precious, precious and magical private companies
is squandered. This is not a uniquely Russian problem. It also happens in the west on a massive scale, but the private
companies own western governments so they have developed a shroud of legitimacy through assorted legislative tricks.
Another aspect is that in Russia the lack of control of the government by private outfits leads to a situation where they
tend to operate in a fly-by-night fashion. Steal and run. So they have less incentive to clean up their image since they
do not have the confidence that they will be around next year.
Reality is always more complex than any ideology.
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miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°694
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
kvs wrote:I will admit that corruption is more polished in the west. In Russia it is still an openly criminal activity.
The only thing that really matters is if the whip is cracked eventually. Such as we had with Vostochny Cosmodrome.
A similar situation developed with the Northern Latitudinal Diameter railway project. It was given out to private companies
to undertake and they f*cked it over. As a result the project had to be put back in government hands and will be delayed
by three years.
A clear pattern can be seen. Government money going into the hands of precious, precious and magical private companies
is squandered. This is not a uniquely Russian problem. It also happens in the west on a massive scale, but the private
companies own western governments so they have developed a shroud of legitimacy through assorted legislative tricks.
Another aspect is that in Russia the lack of control of the government by private outfits leads to a situation where they
tend to operate in a fly-by-night fashion. Steal and run. So they have less incentive to clean up their image since they
do not have the confidence that they will be around next year.
Reality is always more complex than any ideology.
Well, you can see evidently that private industry out west screwed our infrastructure considerably, jobs left at the earliest sign of a slight downturn, and only thing happening now is construction on same exact routes as before, just being redone for the 10th time in last 3 years.
Russia of course is no exception, but when people bitch how government owned industries are growing in numbers rather than private, must be they don't realize reality of things. Private works fine if it's small and medium companies. Large companies are far more prone to screwing up, over charging and under delivering.
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- Post n°695
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
Indeed, large companies have coercive power. And the gutless wonder politicians are afraid to touch them because of the
potential for negative fallout. By contrast, they will steamroll private individuals without batting an eye. For example, in Canada
certain types of knives and box-cutter sold by Canadian Tire, Home Depot, etc. are illegal under the law (the flip type). But nobody
is stopping such sales. So you can be charged with a criminal offense after leaving the store. It is a Kafkaesque joke.
potential for negative fallout. By contrast, they will steamroll private individuals without batting an eye. For example, in Canada
certain types of knives and box-cutter sold by Canadian Tire, Home Depot, etc. are illegal under the law (the flip type). But nobody
is stopping such sales. So you can be charged with a criminal offense after leaving the store. It is a Kafkaesque joke.
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- Post n°696
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
owais.usmani wrote:https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51
To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.
Sounds about right
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GarryB- Posts : 40006
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- Post n°697
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
Do you have any receipts or is this just a... we think putin murdered people with novachok because that sounds like the sort of thing he would do sort of thing?
The irony is that this study likely took the form of lecturers asking for bribes from various western intelligence agencies to determine the level of the "arrived at" bribery level.... the more you give the worse we will make Russia look... seems they didn't give very much at all...
The irony is that this study likely took the form of lecturers asking for bribes from various western intelligence agencies to determine the level of the "arrived at" bribery level.... the more you give the worse we will make Russia look... seems they didn't give very much at all...
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- Post n°698
Re: Politics and Government of Russia
flamming_python wrote:owais.usmani wrote:https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51
To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.
Sounds about right
Based on.....?
ALAMO- Posts : 7232
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Re: Politics and Government of Russia
miketheterrible wrote:flamming_python wrote:owais.usmani wrote:https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51
To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.
Sounds about right
Based on.....?
I would bet sarcasm
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miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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Re: Politics and Government of Russia
ALAMO wrote:miketheterrible wrote:flamming_python wrote:owais.usmani wrote:https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51
To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.
Sounds about right
Based on.....?
I would bet sarcasm![]()
Knowing pythons previous pro commie comments? No, he isn't being sarcastic.