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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:55 am

    Mikhail Mishustin visited Irkutsk Aviation Plant. 

    Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation Mikhail Mishustin visited the Irkutsk Aviation Plant, a branch of Irkut Corporation (part of UAC of Rostec State Corporation).

    During the visit, the Russian Prime Minister got acquainted with the work of the enterprise and the implementation of the program for creating a new-generation MS-21 medium-haul aircraft.

    Mikhail Mishustin was accompanied by Denis Manturov, Minister of Industry and Trade, Yuri Slyusar, General Director of PJSC UAC, Igor Kobzev, Governor of the Irkutsk Region, and Ravil Khakimov, General Director of PJSC Irkut Corporation.

    General Director of the Irkutsk Aviation Plant Alexander Veprev told the head of Government about modern technologies used in the construction of MS-21 aircraft. In the final assembly shop, Mikhail Mishustin was presented with the MS-21-300 aircraft, which for the first time has a wing made of domestic composite materials.

    The Head of Government said that the MS-21 aircraft can compete with its Western counterparts for international markets thanks to new technologies and innovations. Mikhail Mishustin stressed that the state will continue to support the MS-21 project.

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    Post  LMFS Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:04 pm

    There is a very good interview also touching upon civilian aviation topics here:

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t4312p550-russian-transport-aircraft-fleet-vta#333782

    Among the key takeaways:

    - Let's switch to the theme of Ilyushin's large planes. What is happening with the IL-96 line, what are the future prospects of this famous giant, and is there any in the 21st century at all ?

    - Despite the fact that the outwardly IL-96 hardly changes, like any other foreign classmate, the aircraft is undergoing constant modernization. Now, for example, we have developed and are testing a new modernized digital flight and navigation complex that meets all the accepted ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization - TASS) standards in terms of navigation and other parameters, which will allow the aircraft to operate without restrictions in any region of the world.

    In parallel, we use all the developments in the creation of the Il-96-400M - this is a version with a fuselage extended by more than 9 m (9.35 m) for civil aviation. As for the prospects, structural changes in the market, the appearance of a new engine with increased thrust may become an incentive for the further development of the platform. Therefore, we do not exclude the possibility of creating a twin-engine version of the aircraft. We are waiting for the results of the work of our colleagues from the UEC. And also we do not exclude the greater use of modern materials in the design, for example, the creation of a composite wing.

    - That is, as soon as the engine is created, there will be further modernization of the aircraft?

    - We are doing everything to be ready for this moment. Then we will look, discuss, make decisions. The Il-96 platform is very reliable, proven and at the same time is in continuous development.

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:04 pm

    New development of KRET will allow to disinfect air in airplanes. 

    Radioelectronic Technologies Concern of Rostec State Corporation has developed an air purifier for passenger aircraft with an efficiency of over 99.9%. The unit cleans the air from all known viruses, including Covid-19, and can be used both during pre-flight preparation of the aircraft and directly during the flight.

    The Tiokraft VR1000 AERO unit is a new model of the line of air purifiers that are mass-produced by the Ramenskiy Instrument-Making Plant. The first presentation of the new air purification system took place at MAKS-2021.

    People on board the aircraft are confined to a confined space for a long time. In such conditions, air disinfection is the most effective way to ensure their safety, minimizing the risk of spreading viruses and respiratory diseases among passengers. The minimum particle size that the Tiokraft air purifier neutralizes is 10 nanometers. For comparison, the size of the virion of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that caused the COVID-19 pandemic is between 50 and 200 nanometers.

    "The new Tiokraft air purifier for civil aircraft is a very popular and significant development. The system guarantees protection against bacteria, volatile organic compounds and viruses, and has unique performance indicators. At the same time, today it is the only disinfection technology, the effectiveness of which has been confirmed by the results of tests at the 48th Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and has shown high efficiency results. The small overall dimensions and mobility of the unit allow us to use our air purifiers in any class of aircraft. Given the unique characteristics of the development and its versatility, we can talk about its high potential both in the domestic and foreign markets" Nikolay Kolesov, General Director of Concern Radioelectronic Technologies said.

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:04 am

    Ilyushin to develop four-engine aircraft based on Il-114. 

    About the work on the new version of the Il-114 with reference to the First Deputy General Director of UAC Sergey Yarkov TASS. The work is being carried out on their own initiative.

    The latter will simplify the operation of different versions of aircraft. In addition, due to unification, development should not cost too much, and its terms will be relatively short. 

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:33 am


    I guess now we know what Russian heavy gunship will be based on...
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:07 pm

    A low wing transport plane is probably not a great design to base a gunship on normally...

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:43 pm

    The Yak-18T is equipped with an APD-500 engine, which is based on the Aurus car engine. 
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    Post  Kiko Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:53 pm

    United Aircraft Corporation has published a film about the Il-114-300


    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/142591/

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    lFlagship for regions, 02.08.2021.

    Very soon, Russian airlines will be able to replenish their fleets with the new IL-114-300 passenger aircraft intended for air traffic on regional routes, where the obsolete An-24 and An-26 are now being operated. The aircraft manufacturers presented the new aircraft at the International Air Show (MAKS-2021) and are planning to conclude the first contracts with carriers.

    On December 16, 2020, at the airfield in Zhukovsky, the new Il-114-300 passenger aircraft successfully completed its first flight. The testers checked the operating modes of the power plant, the stability and controllability of the aircraft, as well as the functioning of the onboard systems. The success of this event was assessed by Russian President Vladimir Putin on July 15 in a conversation with the head of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) Yuri Slyusar, drawing attention to the tight deadlines for creating a new civilian turboprop regional passenger liner.

    “The first flight of the Il-114-300 is the result of the colossal work of tens of thousands of people: scientists, engineers, specialists working in the design bureaus and at the UAC plants, at the enterprises of our suppliers and partners. The emergence of a new regional turboprop aircraft opens up new prospects for the Russian civil aircraft industry, ”noted Yuri Slyusar during a meeting with the head of state and invited him to visit the air show.

    The Il-114-300 was developed by the Aviation Complex named after I. S. V. Ilyushina (head enterprise of the UAC transport aviation division as part of the state corporation "Rostec"). In just four years, the company actually created a new civilian turboprop aircraft, based on the concept of a Soviet serial short-haul aircraft developed 40 years ago.

    Difficult birth

    In the 1980s, the design bureau of the Moscow machine-building plant "Strela" im. S. V. Ilyushina proposed to develop a 60-seat turboprop aircraft for local airlines in order to replace the fleet of the outdated An-24 and An-26 by that time. The initiative was supported at the level of the Council of Ministers of the USSR and gave the go-ahead for the development of a new air vehicle. Under the leadership of General Designer Genrikh Novozhilov, the car was created in eight years. The Il-114 made its first flight on March 29, 1990. Then in the skies over Zhukovsky it was piloted by the honored test pilot Vyacheslav Belousov. The machine has successfully passed all the tests, the production launch was scheduled for the second quarter of 1991.

    The aircraft immediately became extremely popular: Aeroflot planned to order 1,500 new airliners. Serial production of the Il-114 was to be launched at the Tashkent Aviation Production Association named after. V.P. Chkalov (now - Tashkent Mechanical Plant, Uzbekistan), and then in 1992 already at the Moscow Aviation Production Association named after V.P. P. V. Dementyeva (now part of RSK MiG). The aircraft parts were to be sent to Tashkent from Czechoslovakia, Romania, Yugoslavia, Poland and Bulgaria, but with the collapse of the USSR, the cooperation completely collapsed.

    Nevertheless, the aircraft was still mass-produced: in the post-Soviet period, 18 boards were built. This happened in the late 1990s, after the car received a type certificate in the aviation register of the Interstate Aviation Committee on April 25, 1997. The liners, which were produced piece by piece, were received by the Uzbek national airline "Uzbekistan Airways" (operates flights under the Uzbekistan Airways brand). The Il-114 made its first flight with passengers on the route Tashkent-Namangan on July 9, 1999. Then the planes were operated in different years by the Russian companies Vyborg and Pskov-Avia. But in May 2018, the national airline of Uzbekistan completely abandoned the commercial operation of this type of aircraft, which ended the history of the Soviet turboprop aircraft.

    Turboprop reincarnation

    Russia seriously thought about the resumption of aircraft production in 2015, when Russian President Vladimir Putin initiated the development of a virtually new Il-114-300 airliner, which in the future will replace foreign ATR-42 and ATR-72 turboprop machines, the Canadian Bombardier Q400, on domestic airlines. as well as the rapidly decommissioning fleet of obsolete An-24/26. Development work and preparation for the production of the liner were entrusted to PJSC Il and RSK MiG, which are part of the UAC, which were completed at the beginning of 2017. The base of the RSK MiG branch in Lukhovitsy near Moscow was chosen as the site for the final assembly and serial production.

    According to Andrey Velichko, editor-in-chief of the Aviation of Russia website, despite the fact that civil turboprop aircraft have not been produced in our country for a long time, aircraft manufacturers have not lost their competence in this matter. “One of the most important tasks of the resumption of production of the Il-114-300 was the digitization of all design documentation. Then the modernization of the engine in order to bring its reliability and service life up to the parameters laid down in the technical specifications, then the integration of new modern aircraft equipment. As a result, nothing was left inside of the old Il-114, ”the expert noted. According to him, if difficulties arise, then only when organizing serial production at a plant in Lukhovitsy, where there is simply not enough experience for the construction of turboprop (turboprop civilian aircraft), but this problem is not critical.

    The UAC "Kommersant" noted that there are no particular problems with the production of the machine: the project was launched using the so-called jigless assembly with a high degree of automation of all processes. In addition, all documentation was transferred from paper to electronic media and a 3D model of the aircraft's appearance was created, which allows all enterprises involved in cooperation to work in a single information space. “At the UAC production site in Lukhovitsy, where the final assembly of the aircraft is being carried out, a stand for automated docking of airframe units has been put into operation. The new technology will provide a reduction in production preparation costs and high precision of work. Now the plant continues assembling a prototype aircraft, which, after completion, will join the tests.

    In addition to Lukhovitsy, Voronezh PJSC VASO and Ulyanovsk JSC Aviastar-SP (all of which are part of the UAC) take part in the production cooperation on the aircraft. In addition, work is underway on modern engines for a new family of passenger airliners TV7-117ST-01, which have been developed by the United Engine Corporation (UEC, part of the Rostec State Corporation).

    The UAC plans to receive a type certificate for the aircraft in a year, and in two years - to start serial production of the aircraft. There are already orders: by 2030, 100 cars are to be delivered, of which 50 will go to commercial airlines, 35 - to the Ministry of Defense and other state customers, 15 will be exported. A few days ago, the head of the UAC, Yuri Slyusar, said that the Far Eastern airline Aurora had already ordered 19 airliners, and the State Transport Leasing Company said that they were planning to conclude agreements on the purchase of three aircraft of this type at the current MAKS in Zhukovsky (see the material Aviaprom concentrates " ).

    Completely Russian

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    It is already known that the Il-114-300 will consist of 100% Russian components - this is one of the requirements of the Ministry of Defense, which is interested in the aircraft. It is planned to be used as a naval reconnaissance agent, which will search for submarines and surface ships in the ocean. For this, as reported by radio Sputnik, the aircraft will be equipped with the Kasatka-E search and targeting complex, which will allow detecting objects under water and on the surface, conducting search and rescue operations and ensuring safety in the maritime zone.

    Il-114-300 is a regional passenger turboprop aircraft. The maximum passenger capacity is 68 seats, the maximum payload is up to 6.8 tons. The cruising speed of the aircraft is 500 km / h, the flight range with the maximum payload is 1.4 thousand km (the range without passengers is 5 thousand km), the flight altitude is up to 7.6 thousand meters.

    As aviation experts note, only the fuselage remained from the old machine, certified back in the USSR. Everything else: the wing, avionics, engines - new. According to the chief designer of PJSC Il Sergey Ganin, a new digital flight and navigation complex was created for the aircraft, which will ensure the safe operation of the aircraft during flights in difficult weather conditions. The vehicle will be able to take off and land on instruments with a decision height of less than 60 m and not less than 30 m above the runway with a visibility of at least 350 m, as well as provide automatic descent to the pre-landing leveling height.

    According to Sergei Ganin, the aircraft received a new auxiliary power unit, which will provide the liner with autonomous basing at regional airports. “On the promising new Il-114-300, the takeoff and landing and flight performance of the aircraft have been improved by modifying the wing and installing new engines. The new power plant is characterized by fuel efficiency, reliability, and operational adaptability. All this will make it possible to increase the flight range with the maximum number of passengers in comparison with the Il-114, ”he added.

    The TV7-117ST-01 engine was developed at JSC UEC-Klimov on the basis of a helicopter power plant. According to the developer, when creating, the designers were faced with the task of surpassing foreign counterparts and making the operation of the engine convenient and comfortable. As a result, it was possible to create an unpretentious engine, just suitable for the "air minibus". “The design of TV7-117 engines provides for operation in all climatic conditions: on land, at sea, in any climatic region, including maritime, tropical and cold climates. The engine performance is provided in the range of outdoor air operating temperatures from -60 ° C to +45 ° C. This allows them to operate engines in all climatic conditions inherent in various regions of our country, ”said the UEC. Engine power in comparison with its predecessors has grown to 3100 hp. with., at the same time, the developers managed to maintain a low specific fuel consumption, which made the engine one of the most economical in the class.

    The engine is paired with the AV112-114 propeller with the RSV-34S-114 hydromechanical regulator developed by JSC NPP Aerosila. Its 6-blade low-noise propellers with a diameter of 3.9 m are made of modern composites and equipped with electro-thermal de-icing protection.

    In the design of the airframe, the angle between the ends of the wing and their root section is slightly changed (the so-called V wing - in most aircraft the ends are above the root section, and the wing resembles the Latin letter V in shape). In modern aircraft with straight and trapezoidal wings, the transverse V angle is in the range from + 4 ° to + 7 °, but for the Il-114-300 it will be increased. As they say in Ilyushin, this will provide the aircraft with better lateral stability, and on landing - a larger flap deflection angle and, accordingly, a lower landing speed, better landing characteristics.

    For Russia and not only

    Il-114-300 is an aircraft for local airlines, which is created primarily for the regions of Siberia, the Far East and the North of Russia. It includes the ability to land on unpaved runways (runways) and work in those airports where there is practically no necessary service infrastructure. The developers note that the new aircraft will be able to land in the same conditions as the unpretentious An-24/26. “The design features and a modern flight and navigation system will allow the Il-114-300 to operate with a weak airfield infrastructure, including from short and unpaved runways. The new auxiliary power unit will allow the aircraft to operate without ground services equipment, and the built-in gangway for passengers entering and exiting will simplify the service process at any airports, ”the UAC confirmed.

    At the same time, aviation experts are in no hurry with conclusions. Andrey Velichko, editor-in-chief of the Aviation of Russia website, notes that it will be possible to talk about the possibilities of landing the liner on unpaved runways after the tests. “So far, there has been no information on the possibility of landing on the ground, confirmed by tests. Ilyushin claims that the Il-114-300 will be able to land on unpaved runways, ”he said.

    The head of the analytical service of the AviaPort agency, Oleg Panteleev, notes that in the coming years, the Il-114-300 may still have the opportunity to conquer the airfields of Siberia and the Far East. According to the federal project "Development of regional airports and routes", which is being implemented within the framework of the national project "Comprehensive plan for the modernization and expansion of trunk infrastructure", in Russia until 2024 must modernize regional airports, bringing them in line with international standards. “Now the market can swallow not a very large number of cars of this type. As the An-24 and An-26 in the passenger version are decommissioned, the question will arise of at least flying something at all. By this time, where the airfield infrastructure will be brought up to standard, the Il-114-300 will have obvious opportunities, ”the expert believes.

    For the time being, the UAC prefers not to declare about the export potential of the new development: first, it needs to saturate its own market. But they will not refuse supplies abroad, if any. “In the future, in case of interest from foreign customers - traditional partners of Russia in the field of aircraft construction, it is possible to promote the Il-114-300 aircraft to the international market. This will require the development of a system of after-sales service, including abroad, ”- commented on the situation in the UAC.

    At the same time, aviation experts note that the new turboprop has an export potential, and quite serious. “First of all, India can be interested in organizing assembly in the country under the Made in India program, especially since there have already been such conversations. The plane may also be of interest to our closest neighbors. Just as an example: in Uzbekistan, the A320 flies on some interregional routes. But in this country, a low passenger traffic and short distances, and a medium-haul aircraft with a large capacity on flights of 300-500 km is economically unprofitable, ”says Andriy Velichko. True, at the same time he clarifies: in order to become a real competitor to the proven ATR-72, the Il-114-300 must have an attractive price and delivery terms, as well as a high level of after-sales and service support.

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:38 pm

    The new serial IL-96-300 made its first test flight. 

    On August 5, the first flight of the next production Il-96-300 aircraft built at the Voronezh Aviation Plant – VASO (part of the Transport Aviation Division of PJSC UAC of Rostec State Corporation) took place. The aircraft is undergoing a series of factory tests for subsequent delivery to the customer. This is the second production aircraft that has started its flight program this year.

    The aircraft was piloted by the crew under the leadership of the commander of the test pilot of the 1st class of PJSC "VASO", holder of the Order of Courage Alexander Molokostov and test pilot of the 1st class, also holder of the Order of Courage, PJSC " Il " Dmitry Komarov.

    During the flight at an altitude of 5000-9000 meters, the stability, controllability of the aircraft, the operability of all its systems and power plant were checked. During the descent, the radio approach equipment was checked. The flight duration was about two hours. According to the crew commander, the flight task was completed in full.

    The new aircraft is equipped with state-of-the-art systems and equipment that meet European and international standards. In particular, the aircraft is equipped with an upgraded flight navigation system.

    "The workload of the Voronezh Aircraft Factory is currently clear for the period up to 2030, and it is expected that it will increase from year to year. The IL-96 program ensures loading of VASO as one of the city-forming enterprises of the Voronezh Region" – VASO Managing Director Farit Sharafeev said.

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:49 am

    UAC handed over two Tu-214 aircraft to the customer. 

    United Aircraft Corporation (part of Rostec State Corporation) has completed construction and delivered two new Tu-214 aircraft to the customer. The transfer ceremony took place on August 5. The aircraft were built at the Kazan Aviation Plant named after S. P. Gorbunov, a branch of PJSC Tupolev. 

    The aircraft are equipped with a new and improved interior that meets the most modern standards in terms of technical and design solutions. The aircraft are equipped with modern systems and equipment that meet the newly introduced and promising international requirements.

    The Tu-214 is a long-haul narrow-body passenger aircraft with high fuel efficiency and comfort levels. The aircraft is equipped with PS-90A engines and fully meets international requirements for noise on the ground and emissions of harmful substances into the atmosphere.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Aug 07, 2021 12:28 pm

    Russian_Patriot_ wrote: The IL-96 program ensures loading of VASO as one of the city-forming enterprises of the Voronezh Region" – VASO Managing Director Farit Sharafeev said.

    To me this is one of the very important but little commented on aspects of Government control of the sites of production. They are able to direct work to parts of the country in support of the building out of civilian infrastructure. Gradually spreading the wealth of Russia over the whole country.

    Still think the nose/cockpit of that plane looks odd, out of proportion. A case of function over form, works well but looks strange.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:26 pm

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    Ah, the NAMI/Porsche V8. I wonder if it has the lovely V8 rumble of a car borne engine? Its certainly going to be loud Smile

    That rear pipe looks a bit close to the stay.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:31 pm

    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:Ilyushin to develop four-engine aircraft based on Il-114. 
    About the work on the new version of the Il-114 with reference to the First Deputy General Director of UAC Sergey Yarkov TASS. The work is being carried out on their own initiative.

    The latter will simplify the operation of different versions of aircraft. In addition, due to unification, development should not cost too much, and its terms will be relatively short. 

    What is the requirement for a four turboprop aircraft? Longer cabin?
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    Post  GarryB Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:50 am

    Still think the nose/cockpit of that plane looks odd, out of proportion. A case of function over form, works well but looks strange.

    Funny, on the Il-96 I actually like the nose/cockpit area... to me it looks too small but also pointy and it reminds me of a shark... especially with that big tail fin...

    I think it looks cool.

    What is the requirement for a four turboprop aircraft? Longer cabin?

    Normally extra engines is about increasing payload, but of course usually involve a bigger wing to fit the extra engines and a longer body to fit more stuff in.

    A question will be will it be using the original Klimov TV7-117S turboprop engines, 1,839 kW (2,466 hp) each, or I presume they will use the newer Klimov TV7-117ST-01 engines, with an improved takeoff power of 3,100 hp (2,300 kW) and Aerosila AV-112-114 propellers (Russian).

    In comparison the An-12 has four 4,000hp engines, so perhaps it is aimed at the 12-15 ton payload capacity gap...

    Will be interesting to see what happens... perhaps they have a 4K hp engine for the four engined model and they are wanting to fill the gap created as the An-12s retire...

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:15 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:Ilyushin to develop four-engine aircraft based on Il-114. 
    About the work on the new version of the Il-114 with reference to the First Deputy General Director of UAC Sergey Yarkov TASS. The work is being carried out on their own initiative.

    The latter will simplify the operation of different versions of aircraft. In addition, due to unification, development should not cost too much, and its terms will be relatively short. 

    What is the requirement for a four turboprop aircraft? Longer cabin?

    I suspect some kind of military model, that would need to handle extra payload

    Otherwise it wouldn't be that economic, just for the sake of a longer fuselage. 2 extra engines for just another dozen or two dozen passengers?

    Wouldn't put it past them to create some ASW version of the Il-114 or whatever

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:21 pm


    They are way overdue for new ASW aircraft, I honestly don't know what's the holdup

    Tu-214 should have been used for this (and EW and tanker) long time ago

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:13 pm

    MS-21-300 simulator for Aeroflot. Most likely, pilots of Rossiya airlines, which is a subsidiary of Aeroflot, train on it
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:04 am

    There was a small new Russian helicopter on display at MAKS as well, the AP-55

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    It's rated for a pilot and either 3-4 passengers, or up to 600kg of cargo

    It doesn't have a Russian engine, but a Rolls-Royce engine, the Model 250-C20-B/J
    It can work up a speed of up to 165 mph, and a range of 515 km

    Designed by KEMZ (Kovrov Electromechanical Factory), and will be assembled at the company's production site in Kizlyar, Dagestan.

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:29 pm

    Belarus interested in MS-21 aircraft maintenance. 

    The Belarusian economy should be in close cooperation with partner countries, first of all with Russia, President of the Republic of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko believes. He stated this during a "big conversation with the President" that took place on August 9 in Minsk. The 8-hour press conference was broadcast on the Mir TV channel.

    The President of Belarus counts on the participation of Belarusian aircraft repair enterprises in cooperation on maintenance and provision of spare parts for the MS-21 medium-haul airliner.

    "Recently, the Russians put an MS-21 aircraft on the wing. And we have a modern civil aircraft repair plant, which we recently moved and placed at the airport, and we continue to develop it. There were a lot of offers, and we wanted to serve both Boeing and other aircraft there. But recently there was this MS-21. Putin and I have found a common approach. Not only Belarus and Russia, but Uzbekistan, as you know, has production facilities, and Kazakhstan is interested. This is beneficial for us" – Alexander Lukashenko said.

    He stressed that for Russia this is a promising aircraft, and for Belarus – a huge layer of work: "The equipment needs to be serviced, repaired, and some spare parts produced. We can replace a piece in this plane" – he said. 

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:09 pm

    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:Belarus interested in MS-21 aircraft maintenance.
    .....
    Alexander Lukashenko said.


    He stressed that for Russia this is a promising aircraft, and for Belarus – a huge layer of work: "The equipment needs to be serviced, repaired, and some spare parts produced. We can replace a piece in this plane" – he said....

    Mouthbreather's only job here is to buy the airplane and STFU

    Production facilities for MS-21 are in Russia and no input from any neighboring shitholes is required other than input from bank accounts

    As for replacement of anything, whole or in pieces, of will be mouthbreather that will be replaced long before even a no-smoking sticker on MS-21 is


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    Post  JohninMK Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:40 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:Belarus interested in MS-21 aircraft maintenance.
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    Alexander Lukashenko said.

    He stressed that for Russia this is a promising aircraft, and for Belarus – a huge layer of work: "The equipment needs to be serviced, repaired, and some spare parts produced. We can replace a piece in this plane" – he said....

    Mouthbreather's only job here is to buy the airplane and STFU

    Production facilities for MS-21 are in Russia and no input from any neighboring shitholes is required other than input from bank accounts

    As for replacement of anything, whole or in pieces, of will be mouthbreather that will be replaced long before even a no-smoking sticker on MS-21 is

    That's a bit harsh.

    With the US/EU Law of Unintended Consequences again in play, this time forcing Belarus and Russia closer together. If they do indeed merge in some way then the playing field changes dramatically. Overnight the joint manufacturing/support capability of the whole is available to exploit Russia's new products. Russia itself has a finite manufacturing capacity that can only grow gradually, why not use that of a friend.

    With the advent of these new civil aircraft there will be a need, as a minimum for 1st line repairs and spares storage, in these countries all of whom are potential customers. This could in a way be a Russian exploitation of the forthcoming Silk Road.

    I know it already does to a degree but Russia increasingly spreading its wealth around its periphery countries is win win. In civil aircraft look at Airbus, one way they were able to increase up to their current output was to share production round different countries, using investments from Governments and using workforces/facilities in each. Or do as Boeing/Airbus do, fly empty aircraft shells to a lower cost country (China) and let them do the relatively low skill jobs of fit out and painting. Shipping container loads of parts etc initially before local manufacture.

    Developing skill bases and increased economic dependency in other countries is a great way to win friends and influence people. The British Empire excelled at that and Russia doesn't even have the risks of the oceans, just drive a truck or catch a train.

    This is all about, in military terms, a force multiplier and I suspect that somewhere in the Russian Government bureaucracy there is a team gaming this out.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:52 pm

    flamming_python wrote:There was a small new Russian helicopter on display at MAKS as well, the AP-55

    It's rated for a pilot and either 3-4 passengers, or up to 600kg of cargo

    It doesn't have a Russian engine, but a Rolls-Royce engine, the Model 250-C20-B/J
    It can work up a speed of up to 165 mph, and a range of 515 km

    Designed by KEMZ (Kovrov Electromechanical Factory), and will be assembled at the company's production site in Kizlyar, Dagestan.

    What a smart little chopper. The controls look interesting, don't understand a word but this is the website. https://wisetech.pro/

    R&D is Russia proper, production in one of its edge Republics. That the way to do it!
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:09 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:Belarus interested in MS-21 aircraft maintenance.
    .....
    Alexander Lukashenko said.


    He stressed that for Russia this is a promising aircraft, and for Belarus – a huge layer of work: "The equipment needs to be serviced, repaired, and some spare parts produced. We can replace a piece in this plane" – he said....

    Mouthbreather's only job here is to buy the airplane and STFU

    Production facilities for MS-21 are in Russia and no input from any neighboring shitholes is required other than input from bank accounts

    As for replacement of anything, whole or in pieces, of will be mouthbreather that will be replaced long before even a no-smoking sticker on MS-21 is



    For them to rustle their checkbooks, they'll need a taste of the pie as well

    It's how it works

    Not for nothing are Airbuses sourced from multiple companies over Europe
    That Boeing has R&D centres and sources parts from across the world too
    Hell even the F-35 gets components from across its customer base

    If Belarus, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan are interested - that's a good thing.
    Maybe not the MS-21, but certainly the Il-114-300 can be produced in Tashkent in addition to Russia, for the FSU market and other foreign orders while Russia meets its own demand first

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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:28 am

    Nice little chopper there... I seem to remember seeing something very like it a few years ago but only an external view and it was all black.

    Interesting cockpit... two USB ports I see too... Smile

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