Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


+53
Broski
caveat emptor
GunshipDemocracy
sepheronx
Gazputin
nero
Vann7
Werewolf
Yugo90
Big_Gazza
Mir
ahmedfire
Isos
wilhelm
TMA1
Krepost
Kiko
rigoletto
franco
Autodestruct
Russian_Patriot_
Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E
dino00
ludovicense
x_54_u43
UZB-76
lancelot
limb
mnztr
Lurk83
kvs
Arrow
flamming_python
PhSt
par far
Scorpius
Azi
PapaDragon
Firebird
william.boutros
JohninMK
owais.usmani
calripson
Backman
miketheterrible
LMFS
Rodion_Romanovic
Daniel_Admassu
GarryB
Tsavo Lion
George1
magnumcromagnon
Hole
57 posters

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    franco
    franco


    Posts : 7060
    Points : 7086
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  franco Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:44 pm

    Putin instructed to create a special fire squadron of 22 aircraft and helicopters

    Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the creation of a special fire squadron in the country, which will include 22 aircraft and helicopters. This was reported on October 14 by RIA Novosti, citing sources.

    "According to the instructions of the head of state, together with the state corporation Rostec, a flight squadron for firefighting will be created, consisting of 10 Be-200ES aircraft, 10 Ka-32A11M helicopters and two Mi-26T helicopters," said one of the agency's interlocutors.

    Another source clarified that the squadron will be created with funding from the National Welfare Fund, and will be maintained by Rostec.

    In turn, the state corporation confirmed that there really is such an order. They said that the Ka-32A11M and Be-200 will form the basis of the grouping.

    “The Be-200 aircraft is unique, it has no analogues. These machines are in great demand when extinguishing forest fires, ”the state corporation said.

    The proposal to create a special squadron of Be-200 amphibious aircraft to extinguish natural and man-made fires was made by the head of Rostec Sergey Chemezov at the Gidroaviasalon forum in October 2020.

    The configuration of the Be-200 aircraft is intended for extinguishing forest fires with extinguishing liquids. A feature of the Be-200 in comparison with other amphibious aircraft is a completely sealed fuselage, which makes it possible to use this aircraft for a wide range of tasks. In 2008, the production of the Be-200 was transferred to the Aircraft Company im. G.M. Beriev in Taganrog.

    https://iz-ru.translate.goog/1235326/2021-10-14/putin-poruchil-sozdat-pozharnuiu-spetceskadriliu-iz-22-samoletov-i-vertoletov?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui

    GarryB, xeno, par far, miketheterrible and LMFS like this post

    Kiko
    Kiko


    Posts : 3918
    Points : 3996
    Join date : 2020-11-11
    Age : 75
    Location : Brasilia

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  Kiko Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:43 pm

    Serial assembly of LMS-901 "Baikal" aircraft will be launched at KnAAZ, 22/10/2021.

    The aircraft LMS-901 "Baikal" will be assembled in the Far East: serial production will begin not in Yekaterinburg, as previously planned, but in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. About it reported the newspaper "Vedomosti" with reference to informed sources.

    To do this, next to the territory of the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft plant them. Gagarin, where the SSJ100, Su-35S and Su-57 aircraft are produced, a new workshop will be built, in which the serial assembly of "Baikals" will be organized. The site for the LMS-901 will be separated from the production of fighters, but the aircraft will be tested at the Dzemgi airfield - in the same place where both combat vehicles and the Superjet are being tested at the factory.

    The Ministry of Industry and Trade confirmed the plans for the production of LMS-901 at KnAAZ and added that in addition to the construction of the assembly shop, a training center will be built, and the transfer of production of the LMS-901 to the Far East will not affect the certification period and the cost of the aircraft in any way.

    Earlier, Deputy Minister of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation Oleg Bocharov said about the possible transfer of part of the production of Baikal aircraft to the Far East. In August of this year, he announced the tests of the LMS-901 and announced that additional production is planned to be opened in the Far Eastern Federal District.

    The plans for the assembly site of the Baikal aircraft have changed several times. At first, the production of the aircraft was going to be launched at the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant, documentation has already been sent there to assess the possibility of its manufacture. But the developers had concerns about whether the U-UAZ would be able to meet the target cost of the LMS-901 production. Then they wanted to build the plane at the facilities of the Ural Civil Aviation Plant near Yekaterinburg.

    The transfer of production of "Baikals" to the Far East may indicate that the Ministry of Industry and Trade, as the department responsible for experimental aviation, has not yet decided on the choice of an aircraft manufacturer that can meet the strict price limits of the final cost of the LMS-901. In accordance with the terms of reference, the price of Baikal for the operator should not exceed 120 million rubles in 2020 prices.

    https://aviation21.ru/serijnuyu-sborku-samolyotov-lms-901-bajkal-zapustyat-na-knaaz/

    GarryB, LMFS and Autodestruct like this post

    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40598
    Points : 41100
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  GarryB Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:06 am

    Lots of excellent photos of the LMS-901 can be found on this link:

    https://khmelikvictor.livejournal.com/224450.html

    Photos like this:

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 49017310

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 49026610

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 49158710

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 49177510

    flamming_python, kvs, LMFS, Rasisuki Nebia and Autodestruct like this post

    avatar
    Firebird


    Posts : 1814
    Points : 1844
    Join date : 2011-10-14

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  Firebird Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:55 am

    Looks nice, I wonder why it didn't have the biplane wings of its predecessor.
    Weren't they the main reason for its incredibly low stall speed?

    I know there might have been a weight issue, but I think a bi-wing format would have been nice too.

    Is the TVS2DTS going to happen due to cost and repair issues of an all composite body?
    I understood there are some delays but it is still going ahead too, as a more expensive option than the one above.
    PapaDragon
    PapaDragon


    Posts : 13484
    Points : 13524
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  PapaDragon Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:46 pm

    Firebird wrote:Looks nice, I wonder why it didn't have the biplane wings of its predecessor.
    Weren't they the main reason for its incredibly low stall speed?...

    New materials and wing design, no more need for two wings to get same results

    Firebird likes this post

    avatar
    Autodestruct


    Posts : 148
    Points : 150
    Join date : 2021-10-04

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty MC-21-310 flights and cert

    Post  Autodestruct Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:23 am

    The best bit is at the end.  Certification for the 310 variant is planned for late 2022.  Only a year after the 300 variant is pretty good timing.

    https://aviation21.ru/ms-21-310-vypolnil-ispytatelnyj-polyot-prodolzhitelnostyu-bolee-5-chasov/

    GarryB, magnumcromagnon, kvs, LMFS and lancelot like this post

    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40598
    Points : 41100
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:15 am

    Looks nice, I wonder why it didn't have the biplane wings of its predecessor.
    Weren't they the main reason for its incredibly low stall speed?

    My understanding is that the reduced weight and drag mean it can fly rather faster and rather further, but while its stall speed is higher it is still able to land on short rough strips which was the main thing.

    The airframe is supposed to be all Russian but the first aircraft will have American engines, but the Russian replacement engines will be ready soon.


    It seems to me they are going to make two planes to replace the An-2....  the thing is that the largest transport plane you can have in Russia with a single engine is 9 passengers, but the An-2 can carry 18-20 passengers, so AFAIK they are going to make the single engined plane for 9 passengers and another twin engined aircraft for 19 passengers to replace the An-2.

    AFAIK both will be monoplanes and will be much lighter than the An-2.

    Data from this page:  https://khmelikvictor.livejournal.com/181168.html

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 38767610

    Oh that is cool... loading the image above into Yandex translate as an image and translate image means I can then download the translated image to my computer:

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 38767611

    George1, flamming_python, magnumcromagnon and lancelot like this post

    JohninMK
    JohninMK


    Posts : 15681
    Points : 15822
    Join date : 2015-06-16
    Location : England

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:18 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Oh that is cool... loading the image above into Yandex translate as an image and translate image means I can then download the translated image to my computer:

    Top find there Garry. You might consider spreading the knowledge wider than just this thread.

    GarryB likes this post

    avatar
    Autodestruct


    Posts : 148
    Points : 150
    Join date : 2021-10-04

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Digital twin concept to be mandated/standardized next year

    Post  Autodestruct Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:46 am

    https://aviation21.ru/kak-cifrovye-instrumenty-menyayut-konstrukciyu-letatelnyx-apparatov/

    They don't discuss it in depth. But the increased capability it gives for in lifecycle calculation and analysis (you can simulate a volcanic ash ingestion, event for instance, on the digital twin model and use the output of that to adjust maintenance and inspection periods to prolong operability and safety) should greatly increase maintenance performance. And maintenance/service has often been a weak point. Good opportunity for improvement.
    Kiko
    Kiko


    Posts : 3918
    Points : 3996
    Join date : 2020-11-11
    Age : 75
    Location : Brasilia

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  Kiko Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:45 am

    MC-21-310 arrives in the UAE to participate in the Dubai Airshow 2021, 10/11/2021.

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 F_c2RlbGFub3VuYXMucnUvdXBsb2Fkcy82LzUvNjUyMTYzNjU1OTk4N19vcmlnLmpwZWc_X19pZD0xNDQzMjA=

    Experienced aircraft MS-21-310 (w / n 73055) flew to the United Arab Emirates to participate in the static exposition and flight program of the Dubai Airshow 2021 international air show, which will be held in the largest city of the United Arab Emirates - Dubai from November 14 to 18.

    The liner took off from the airfield Ramenskoye LII them. Gromov, where certification tests are underway, at 11:33 am (Moscow time) and landed at Dubai Al Maktoum International Airport at 4:47 pm (Moscow time). For more than five hours of non-stop flight, the MC-21-310 covered a distance of about 3700 km.

    The aircraft is equipped with PD-14 engines. The version of the liner with a Russian power plant should receive a type certificate at the end of 2022. The PW1400G version of the aircraft is expected to receive a type certificate in late 2021 - early 2022. More than 700 of the required 800 test flights have been completed. By the end of this year, UAC and the Irkut corporation plan to complete the certification test program.

    The international premiere of MC-21 was planned in the fall of 2018 in Southeast Asia, but for the first time MC-21 was demonstrated in 2019 at the Technofest festival of aviation, space and technology in Istanbul in September 2019. Then the third prototype MS-21 with tail number 73054 flew to Turkey.

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/144320/

    magnumcromagnon, kvs, PapaDragon, zardof, LMFS, Hole and Autodestruct like this post

    kvs
    kvs


    Posts : 15887
    Points : 16022
    Join date : 2014-09-11
    Location : Turdope's Kanada

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  kvs Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:34 pm



    Demonstration flight in Dubai.

    Hole and Kiko like this post

    Hole
    Hole


    Posts : 11140
    Points : 11118
    Join date : 2018-03-24
    Age : 48
    Location : Scholzistan

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  Hole Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:17 pm

    Sheik: Can I get one in pink for the 12th birthday of my 7th daughter? Laughing

    PapaDragon likes this post

    avatar
    Autodestruct


    Posts : 148
    Points : 150
    Join date : 2021-10-04

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russia Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  Autodestruct Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:58 am

    Some goings on at Dubai and other news...

    Some facts on the Aurus business jet - $40-50 million price tag and 7200km range.

    https://www.ruaviation.com/news/2021/11/16/17088/

    The creation of a Russian venture to spur the leasing of Russian Helicopters products across Russia, the Middle East, SE Asia.

    https://aviation21.ru/v-rossii-zapustyat-pervyj-proekt-operacionnogo-lizinga-vertolyotov/

    And a joint Russian-Emirati venture to sell Russian Helicopters products - primarily targeting the Middle East

    https://aviation21.ru/v-emiratax-sozdano-sovmestnoe-predpriyatie-po-prodazham-rossijskix-grazhdanskix-vertolyotov-za-rubezhom/

    And Russia continues to build up MRO capabilities. Now 40 SaM-146 spares and over 1 million total spare components available for SSJ operators

    https://aviation21.ru/odnovremenno-do-20-samolyotov-ssj100-mogut-vospolzovatsya-podmennymi-dvigatelyami-sam146/

    GarryB, dino00, magnumcromagnon, kvs, JohninMK, LMFS and Kiko like this post

    Hole
    Hole


    Posts : 11140
    Points : 11118
    Join date : 2018-03-24
    Age : 48
    Location : Scholzistan

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  Hole Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:44 pm

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 10805310
    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 10807010
    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 10807410

    GarryB, dino00, magnumcromagnon, LMFS and Autodestruct like this post

    Hole
    Hole


    Posts : 11140
    Points : 11118
    Join date : 2018-03-24
    Age : 48
    Location : Scholzistan

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  Hole Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:45 pm

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 10805010
    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 10806410

    GarryB, magnumcromagnon and kvs like this post

    JohninMK
    JohninMK


    Posts : 15681
    Points : 15822
    Join date : 2015-06-16
    Location : England

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  JohninMK Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:41 pm

    Is the Aurus based on the SSJ?
    kvs
    kvs


    Posts : 15887
    Points : 16022
    Join date : 2014-09-11
    Location : Turdope's Kanada

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  kvs Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:17 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Is the Aurus based on the SSJ?

    Yes, it is just a posh-ed up version of one. I am not sure about technical changes.

    magnumcromagnon likes this post

    kvs
    kvs


    Posts : 15887
    Points : 16022
    Join date : 2014-09-11
    Location : Turdope's Kanada

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  kvs Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:20 pm



    Interesting observation that the demonstrator sent to Dubai uses the PD-14 engines indicates little effort to sell abroad
    and is more of a boasting exercise.

    I think it is both. Russia will be pushing to sell PD-14 based variants instead of using NATzO derived engines. Any loss
    of potential sales will not be such a big deal since Russia will deploy the MC-21 for its own internal market. So Airbus and
    Boeing will lose sales/leases.

    Hole likes this post

    lancelot
    lancelot


    Posts : 3190
    Points : 3186
    Join date : 2020-10-18

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  lancelot Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:12 pm

    kvs wrote:Interesting observation that the demonstrator sent to Dubai uses the PD-14 engines indicates little effort to sell abroad
    and is more of a boasting exercise.  

    I think it is both.   Russia will be pushing to sell PD-14 based variants instead of using NATzO derived engines.   Any loss
    of potential sales will not be such a big deal since Russia will deploy the MC-21 for its own internal market.   So Airbus and
    Boeing will lose sales/leases.  

    I think it clearly shows Irkut has a lot of confidence in the PD-14 equipped version that they are willing to make a long trip such as this one when the type is supposed to only be certified next year with these engines.

    flamming_python, kvs and PapaDragon like this post

    Hole
    Hole


    Posts : 11140
    Points : 11118
    Join date : 2018-03-24
    Age : 48
    Location : Scholzistan

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  Hole Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:45 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Is the Aurus based on the SSJ?

    It´s the SBJ (Sukhoi Business Jet) with new style interior.

    PapaDragon likes this post

    PapaDragon
    PapaDragon


    Posts : 13484
    Points : 13524
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  PapaDragon Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:37 pm

    kvs wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Is the Aurus based on the SSJ?

    Yes, it is just a posh-ed up version of one.  I am not sure about technical changes.


    No technical changes, just a fancy interior

    It can probably fly longer because it carries fewer people and luggage onboard hence less fuel per km
    avatar
    Autodestruct


    Posts : 148
    Points : 150
    Join date : 2021-10-04

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russia Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  Autodestruct Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:12 am

    Russia begins mail delivery in the far north with autonomous aircraft.

    https://aviation21.ru/na-yamale-proshli-pervye-testovye-dostavki-pochty-bespilotnym-vertolyotom/

    Mail and freight delivery is the right venue for trying out single pilot and pilotless aviation concepts. Passenger transport should only be changed once the concepts are proven safe and reliable.

    GarryB, kvs and LMFS like this post

    avatar
    Autodestruct


    Posts : 148
    Points : 150
    Join date : 2021-10-04

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  Autodestruct Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:52 pm

    Youtube promo video from Irkut Corp at Dubai. It tours the Aurus business jet interior and then does the same for the MC-21-310. You can see that the MC-21 only has a partial cabin installed and the back portion is used for testing. It is interesting that they chose to bring this plane to Dubai when it is obviously still being used in the testing program.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ8JBOCS5Ik

    Lennox likes this post

    Hole
    Hole


    Posts : 11140
    Points : 11118
    Join date : 2018-03-24
    Age : 48
    Location : Scholzistan

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  Hole Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:59 pm

    It´s a nice test for a new passengern plane to fly a few thousand kilometres. Very Happy
    Hole
    Hole


    Posts : 11140
    Points : 11118
    Join date : 2018-03-24
    Age : 48
    Location : Scholzistan

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  Hole Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:33 pm

    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Ms-21-17

    Sponsored content


    Russian Civil Aviation: News #4 - Page 18 Empty Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #4

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:45 am