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TOR Air Defence system
GarryB- Posts : 40541
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- Post n°301
Re: TOR Air Defence system
A very potent system... its problem was always price as the 3D radar is expensive, though the command guided missiles are cheap enough...
George1- Posts : 18520
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Russia’s Northern fleet to get first Tor-M2DT systems in November — official
The Tor-M2DT is the Arctic version of the Tor-M2 (NATO reporting name: SA-15 Gauntlet) air defense missile system
More:
http://tass.com/defense/1027943
The Tor-M2DT is the Arctic version of the Tor-M2 (NATO reporting name: SA-15 Gauntlet) air defense missile system
More:
http://tass.com/defense/1027943
George1- Posts : 18520
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The first battalion of Arctic air defense systems Tor-M2DT will be handed over to the Northern Fleet on November 22
More:
http://tass.com/defense/1031056
More:
http://tass.com/defense/1031056
GarryB- Posts : 40541
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- Post n°305
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Excellent... a very potent system...
dino00- Posts : 1677
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- Post n°306
Re: TOR Air Defence system
George1 wrote:The first battalion of Arctic air defense systems Tor-M2DT will be handed over to the Northern Fleet on November 22
More:
http://tass.com/defense/1031056
Done!
The first 12 serial Tor-M2DT air defense systems have been tested and approved by the Ministry of Defense.
These complexes are designed to solve the problems of air and missile defense at the divisional level
The specialists of the 705th military mission of the Ministry of Defense of Russia carried out a cycle of acceptance tests and fully received the first production batch of 12 Tor-M2DT Arctic complexes.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5832971
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George1- Posts : 18520
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Tor-M2DT is an arctic version of the Tor-M2 complex mounted on DT-30M two-link track-type conveyors. Combat vehicles of the air defense system have a unique cross, can overcome ditches, swim, do not lose their performance in more than 50 degrees of frost. They are capable of hitting targets a few seconds after their detection.
The complex is designed to solve the problems of air and missile defense in the divisional level. It serves to cover important administrative sites, the first echelons of land connections from the attacks of anti-radar and cruise missiles, guided bombs, airplanes, helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles. It consists of 16 vertical-launch anti-aircraft missiles with a range of damage up to 12 km and an altitude range of up to 10 thousand meters. The upgraded target detection station is capable of detecting aircraft created using stealth technology.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3436106.html
The complex is designed to solve the problems of air and missile defense in the divisional level. It serves to cover important administrative sites, the first echelons of land connections from the attacks of anti-radar and cruise missiles, guided bombs, airplanes, helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles. It consists of 16 vertical-launch anti-aircraft missiles with a range of damage up to 12 km and an altitude range of up to 10 thousand meters. The upgraded target detection station is capable of detecting aircraft created using stealth technology.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3436106.html
dino00- Posts : 1677
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The Defense Ministry in 2019 will conclude a contract until 2027 for the upgraded Tor system
This includes the complexes upgraded to meet the Syrian experience, and in the Arctic version
IZHEVSK, December 21. / TASS /. Next year, the Russian Ministry of Defense will sign a contract with Izhevsk Electromechanical Plant Kupol for a period of up to 2027 for the supply of Thor anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM), including the upgraded ones taking into account the Syrian experience and in the Arctic. This was said on Friday by Deputy Minister Alexei Krivoruchko during a visit to the plant.
"Next year we plan to conclude a large long-term contract until 2027 on new complexes of the Thor family, including modernized ones and in the Arctic version," Krivoruchko said after a meeting with the management of the company. He added that the serial complexes are constantly being upgraded, including taking into account the experience of combat use in Syria.
Separately, the Deputy Minister thanked the specialists of the enterprise for effective production activities and the delivery of products ahead of schedule. “The Kupol plant completed the state order in full until the end of the year, all equipment was supplied to the troops. I would like to especially note the Arctic version of the Thor complex, the first production batch is already in the troops too. Therefore, there are no comments on the work of the enterprise,” Krivoruchko.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5941723
This includes the complexes upgraded to meet the Syrian experience, and in the Arctic version
IZHEVSK, December 21. / TASS /. Next year, the Russian Ministry of Defense will sign a contract with Izhevsk Electromechanical Plant Kupol for a period of up to 2027 for the supply of Thor anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM), including the upgraded ones taking into account the Syrian experience and in the Arctic. This was said on Friday by Deputy Minister Alexei Krivoruchko during a visit to the plant.
"Next year we plan to conclude a large long-term contract until 2027 on new complexes of the Thor family, including modernized ones and in the Arctic version," Krivoruchko said after a meeting with the management of the company. He added that the serial complexes are constantly being upgraded, including taking into account the experience of combat use in Syria.
Separately, the Deputy Minister thanked the specialists of the enterprise for effective production activities and the delivery of products ahead of schedule. “The Kupol plant completed the state order in full until the end of the year, all equipment was supplied to the troops. I would like to especially note the Arctic version of the Thor complex, the first production batch is already in the troops too. Therefore, there are no comments on the work of the enterprise,” Krivoruchko.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5941723
magnumcromagnon- Posts : 8138
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hoom- Posts : 2352
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- Post n°312
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You could join those launches into a loop & post it to Youtube under a 'Most Satisfying' title
Is there any hint or rumor of an AESA search radar like Pantsir-S2?
I understand the engagement radar has been upgraded but thats also still PESA.
Is there any hint or rumor of an AESA search radar like Pantsir-S2?
I understand the engagement radar has been upgraded but thats also still PESA.
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°313
Re: TOR Air Defence system
hoom wrote:You could join those launches into a loop & post it to Youtube under a 'Most Satisfying' title
Is there any hint or rumor of an AESA search radar like Pantsir-S2?
I understand the engagement radar has been upgraded but thats also still PESA.
Why to go for AESA radar when PESA radar is excellent? Just to make it more expensive? There is not much difference in effectiveness between PESA and AESA.
Yes, Pantsir-S2 have AESA search radar with two antennas with longer range for quicker upgrade of target informations. Engagement radar is still PESA because it do its job well and there is no need to develop new more expensive AESA radar, which at the end will do the same. AESA search radar could be installed on other platforms as well, but engagement radar is installed only on Pantsir.
George1- Posts : 18520
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Tor-M2DT air defense system will cover the Russian Arctic
In the area of the Northern Sea Route additional air defense forces will be deployed. This was announced by the commander of the Northern Fleet of Russia, Admiral Nikolai Evmenov. “The new block-modular military camp in Tiksi, a Yakut village, is almost completed and ready to move in, where units of the air defense of the Northern Fleet will be deployed soon,” he said in an interview with Red Star. According to Evmenov, they will ensure the safety of the airspace over the Northern Sea Route. Until the end of this year, coastal troops of the Northern Fleet will receive anti-ship missile systems "Ball" and "Bastion". A separate motorized rifle brigade of the fleet, formed in 2015, will be transferred to the Tor-M2DT short-range air defense system.
https://i-korotchenko.livejournal.com/1480857.html
In the area of the Northern Sea Route additional air defense forces will be deployed. This was announced by the commander of the Northern Fleet of Russia, Admiral Nikolai Evmenov. “The new block-modular military camp in Tiksi, a Yakut village, is almost completed and ready to move in, where units of the air defense of the Northern Fleet will be deployed soon,” he said in an interview with Red Star. According to Evmenov, they will ensure the safety of the airspace over the Northern Sea Route. Until the end of this year, coastal troops of the Northern Fleet will receive anti-ship missile systems "Ball" and "Bastion". A separate motorized rifle brigade of the fleet, formed in 2015, will be transferred to the Tor-M2DT short-range air defense system.
https://i-korotchenko.livejournal.com/1480857.html
LMFS- Posts : 5162
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The designer talked about "tor-M2" and its a rocket
Air defense units of the Land forces began to receive the latest anti-aircraft missile systems (SAMS), short range "tor-M2", which ensures almost one hundred percent defeat all types of aircraft and drones and precision-guided munitions, including cruise missiles and gliding bombs. In an interview with "Izvestia" said the chief designer and developer of rocket 9М338 for the complex "tor-M2" Victor eletskiy.
According to Yelets, new ZRU "tor-M2" is the world's only anti-aircraft complex, having the ability to hit targets during the movement. Also feature the new "Thor" is the ability to simultaneously strike four goals.
In the new SAM used the rocket 9М338, which enabled us to "abandon the practice to bombard one target with two missiles." This was achieved by making the rocket lighter and more compact, abandoning large bearing surfaces - wings, ribs, etc. in addition, the new SAM refused to "catapult launch", replacing it with the use of lightweight gas generators, which are additionally "perform the task of inducing the missile."
The Designer said that today in the world there is SAM, short-range exceeding "tor-M2".
The Americans Have nothing like it close there. The French engineers have a similar design, but they are still in the testing stage
- noted Eletsky.
https://weaponews.com/news/65349070-the-designer-talked-about-tor-m2-and-its-a-rocket.html
Air defense units of the Land forces began to receive the latest anti-aircraft missile systems (SAMS), short range "tor-M2", which ensures almost one hundred percent defeat all types of aircraft and drones and precision-guided munitions, including cruise missiles and gliding bombs. In an interview with "Izvestia" said the chief designer and developer of rocket 9М338 for the complex "tor-M2" Victor eletskiy.
According to Yelets, new ZRU "tor-M2" is the world's only anti-aircraft complex, having the ability to hit targets during the movement. Also feature the new "Thor" is the ability to simultaneously strike four goals.
In the new SAM used the rocket 9М338, which enabled us to "abandon the practice to bombard one target with two missiles." This was achieved by making the rocket lighter and more compact, abandoning large bearing surfaces - wings, ribs, etc. in addition, the new SAM refused to "catapult launch", replacing it with the use of lightweight gas generators, which are additionally "perform the task of inducing the missile."
The Designer said that today in the world there is SAM, short-range exceeding "tor-M2".
The Americans Have nothing like it close there. The French engineers have a similar design, but they are still in the testing stage
- noted Eletsky.
https://weaponews.com/news/65349070-the-designer-talked-about-tor-m2-and-its-a-rocket.html
dino00- Posts : 1677
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Anti-aircraft missile system "Tor-M2" experienced in a real battle
MOSCOW, April 5 - RIA News. The Tor-M2 anti-aircraft missile system (ZRK) was tested in real combat conditions, Fanil Ziyatdinov, general director of Izhevsk Electromechanical Plant Kupol (part of the aerospace defense concern Almaz-Antey), said in an interview with RIA Novosti.
“The Tor-M2 air defense system fully confirmed its characteristics not only during test and training firing but also when performing special tasks in real combat conditions. I hope you understand what I mean,” Ziyatdinov said, without specifying where exactly did it happen.
https://ria.ru/20190405/1552407470.html
We understand what you mean
MOSCOW, April 5 - RIA News. The Tor-M2 anti-aircraft missile system (ZRK) was tested in real combat conditions, Fanil Ziyatdinov, general director of Izhevsk Electromechanical Plant Kupol (part of the aerospace defense concern Almaz-Antey), said in an interview with RIA Novosti.
“The Tor-M2 air defense system fully confirmed its characteristics not only during test and training firing but also when performing special tasks in real combat conditions. I hope you understand what I mean,” Ziyatdinov said, without specifying where exactly did it happen.
https://ria.ru/20190405/1552407470.html
We understand what you mean
dino00- Posts : 1677
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Fanil Ziyatdinov: work is underway on the Tor robotization
The general director of the Izhevsk Electromechanical Plant Kupol (part of Almaz-Antey), which developed the Tor system, Fanil Ziyatdinov, in an interview with RIA Novosti commentator Alexey Panshin
Another interview:
https://ria.ru/20190405/1552378803.html
Russia at the end of 2018 shipped a large batch of air defense systems "Thor" abroad
https://ria.ru/20190405/1552407631.html
The general director of the Izhevsk Electromechanical Plant Kupol (part of Almaz-Antey), which developed the Tor system, Fanil Ziyatdinov, in an interview with RIA Novosti commentator Alexey Panshin
Another interview:
https://ria.ru/20190405/1552378803.html
Russia at the end of 2018 shipped a large batch of air defense systems "Thor" abroad
https://ria.ru/20190405/1552407631.html
dino00- Posts : 1677
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LMFS wrote:The designer talked about "tor-M2" and its a rocket
Air defense units of the Land forces began to receive the latest anti-aircraft missile systems (SAMS), short range "tor-M2", which ensures almost one hundred percent defeat all types of aircraft and drones and precision-guided munitions, including cruise missiles and gliding bombs. In an interview with "Izvestia" said the chief designer and developer of rocket 9М338 for the complex "tor-M2" Victor eletskiy.
According to Yelets, new ZRU "tor-M2" is the world's only anti-aircraft complex, having the ability to hit targets during the movement. Also feature the new "Thor" is the ability to simultaneously strike four goals.
In the new SAM used the rocket 9М338, which enabled us to "abandon the practice to bombard one target with two missiles." This was achieved by making the rocket lighter and more compact, abandoning large bearing surfaces - wings, ribs, etc. in addition, the new SAM refused to "catapult launch", replacing it with the use of lightweight gas generators, which are additionally "perform the task of inducing the missile."
The Designer said that today in the world there is SAM, short-range exceeding "tor-M2".
The Americans Have nothing like it close there. The French engineers have a similar design, but they are still in the testing stage
- noted Eletsky.
https://weaponews.com/news/65349070-the-designer-talked-about-tor-m2-and-its-a-rocket.html
I was rereading this interview in Izvetzia and from what I understand the designer says the 9M338 has a 20km range...
The heart of the complex is the new rocket 9M338K. What are the features of her work?
- The range of its flight allows the Tor-M2 complex to cover the troops along the front of 20 km. In this sector, we bring down everything that moves . Including small-sized, maneuvering, speed targets. Where previously it was necessary to keep two combat vehicles, now it is enough to install one .
https://iz.ru/857786/aleksei-ramm/my-sbivaem-vse-chto-shevelitsia
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Yup, that sounds about right... the original had a range of about 12km, and the new missiles are half the size, so that twice as many are carried in the same space, but with better speed and much better range
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While India and Russia are currently finalizing a deal on the S-400 long-range air defense missile system, Moscow is now understood to be getting New Delhi interested in its Buk-M3 medium range and Tor-M3 short-range missile defence systems to form a single air-defence network.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyoX-ZEJW80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyoX-ZEJW80
GarryB- Posts : 40541
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It is a forum rule that new members introduce themselves in the appropriate section of this forum.
Please do so now.
https://www.russiadefence.net/f6-member-introductions-and-rules
Please do so now.
https://www.russiadefence.net/f6-member-introductions-and-rules
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Russia’s Northern Fleet air defense troops hold drills with advanced missile systems
The live-fire exercise took place under intensive jamming while the targets simulated an attack by a notional enemy’s aircraft
MOSCOW, June 13. /TASS/. Air defense units of Russia’s Northern Fleet held first live-fire drills at the Kapustin Yar practice range to learn to operate the latest Arctic Tor-M2DT surface-to-air missile systems, the Defense Ministry of Russia reported on Thursday.
"Today, the first live-fire exercise was held at the Kapustin Yar practice range in the Astrakhan Region to learn to fire the Tor-M2DT air defense missile system against air targets. The Northern Fleet’s personnel who have undergone re-training on the premises of the (Ground Forces’ air defense) training center have performed anti-aircraft missile launches," the ministry said in a statement.
The live-fire exercise took place under intensive jamming while the targets simulated an attack by a notional enemy’s aircraft, the statement says.
"During the live-fire exercise, the systems’ crews destroyed all the fast-moving maneuvering targets launched from various directions and flying at minimum and maximum altitudes," the ministry specified.
After the operational readiness drills are over, the air defense personnel will return to their permanent bases and assume combat duty together with the new anti-aircraft missile systems.
The Arctic Tor-M2DT surface-to-air missile system has been developed using a two-section prime mover for its employment in the Arctic and the Extreme North and is capable of operating at a temperature of minus 50 degrees Celsius. The new system comprises 16 surface-to-air vertically launched missiles with a striking range of up to 12 km and an altitude range of up to 10,000 meters. The upgraded target detection station is capable of spotting aircraft based on stealth technology.
The latest system was unveiled at the Victory Day Parade in Moscow’s Red Square on May 9, 2018. It was reported in November 2018 that the Russian troops had received the first 12 Tor-M2DT serial-produced air defense systems.
More:
http://tass.com/defense/1063692
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What I find frustrating is they rarely if ever show the missiles hit anything. While Iran and others do.