Russia's Newest Submarines Are "On Par With Ours" According To Senior American General
Project 885: Yasen class #2
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owais.usmani wrote:https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/41105/russias-new-cruise-missile-submarines-are-on-par-with-ours-says-senior-u-s-general
Russia's Newest Submarines Are "On Par With Ours" According To Senior American General
Read the comments to understand why The Drivel isn't fit to wipe yer arse on.
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I am sure the Russian sub builders will be impressed that you guys approve.
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The launching ceremony will be held under the leadership of the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Nikolai Evmenov
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/11989423
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That's one more free slot on the production line, time to start filling it up again
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The command for the withdrawal was given by the general director of the plant Mikhail Budnichenko
SEVERODVINSK / Arkhangelsk region /, July 30. / TASS /. Nuclear submarine of project 885M (Yasen-M) "Krasnoyarsk" on Friday was removed from the dock and launched at the Sevmash enterprise in Severodvinsk, Arkhangelsk region, TASS reports from the scene.
The command for the withdrawal was given by the general director of the plant, Mikhail Budnichenko, after which, according to tradition, a bottle of champagne on the side of the submarine was smashed by its future commander, captain of the 2nd rank Ivan Artyushin.
"Dear shipbuilders, the crew of the submarine. Today is a holiday that will go down in the history of the Navy. The ships of Sevmash have confirmed their professionalism. <...> Plans have been drawn up for this ship, the crew has been prepared. I am sure that the Sevmash will hand it over on time." - said at the ceremony the commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Nikolai Evmenov.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/12023351
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After this news my erection is as hard as that sub
Now do more
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http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2021/07/off-she-goes.html
UPDATE: just now Russia's Channel 1 (in Russian) confirmed that new Yasens carry 3M14M with a range of 4,500 kilometers. In other words, they are undetectable in the launch areas and it also means that these updated Kalibr TLAMs are installed on all ships with UKSK VLS and other new subs.
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Beautiful ship
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After this news my erection is as hard as that sub
Now do more
The most important class of ship in the Russian navy by far. negates trillions of dollars in NATO countries investments in their surface fleets. In sufficient numbers, a real game changer.
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And each next is made easier and cheaper.
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ALAMO wrote:With 9 pieces in line/fitting/production, we already can talk a decent number there.
And each next is made easier and cheaper.
I do hope that they will modernize most of the Antey's as well - together they would be an unparalleled strike force for the Navy.
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Still wonder what is the purpose of modernizing 667BDRM, having 10 955/955A but maybe they will convert them to intelligence vessels, or Poseidon carriers.
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I do hope that they will modernize most of the Antey's as well - together they would be an unparalleled strike force for the Navy.
I hope they will build more of the Yasen M submarine. Antey is an obsolete submarine, except for Belgorod, which probably has everything completely new, and it is a new class.
Antey are very good submarine but their life cycle is coming to an end. Unless a small modernization would extend their lives by a few years? I think it's better to invest in next-generation submarines.
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USN brass will be waking up in a cold sweat....
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Keep in mind that those boats were all released in the 80s when Soviet construction had already been on pair.
No one argues "obsolesce" of Rubis class subs or Trafalgars, do they
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Arrow wrote: Antey is an obsolete submarine, except for Belgorod, which probably has everything completely new, and it is a new class.
Antey are very good submarine but their life cycle is coming to an end. Unless a small modernization would extend their lives by a few years? I think it's better to invest in next-generation submarines.
Antey's retrofitted with more modern missiles like Oniks and Tsirkons would definitely not make them obsolete in any way. These boats are also relatively quiet due to their double hull architecture. They would be able to strike way before any task force would be able to detect them.
I definitely wouldn't bother with a "small" modernization" at all - that would be a waste of resources.
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I definitely wouldn't bother with a "small" modernization" at all - that would be a waste of resources.
That depends on a task assigned to them.
We must consider that from a broader perspective, too.
New Russian missiles are real game-changers, but sometimes it requires a lot of spirits to consider the real factor of this.
When USN is struggling to intercept slow-flying ballistic missiles in a test environment, archiving results as high as 50% of interception for 2 targets shoot at with 4 rockets, the Russkies can throw on them a salvo of several dozens of 1.5x faster, maneuvering missiles, flying few meters above the water, evading, and emitting ECMs, with one 885 sub only.
At the moment, it would have been a slaughter, and the only way the Murica would "win" is the fact that Russkies will run out of missiles, while "the mighty USN" will have some leaking boats still floating.
Imagine and compare to the Falklands experience.
Argentina launched 6 Exocets only, is separated attacks, lacking the intell, proper target acquisition.
3 of the rockets failed, and it took a while for the Dassault team working in Argentina to bring them back to operation.
Some of the missiles and bombs did not explode.
Still, they almost broke the neck of the task force, and Invincible survived only because the Argentinians could not locate it.
Now imagine, a single salvo of submerged 670M, consisting of 8 P-120 missiles. All of them, with mid-course guidance correction, a 500 kg warhead, and combined AR/IR guidance to avoid being fooled by countermeasures. Guided by a decent sea search platform like Tu-16, or quite sophisticated on-board Skat sonar system, and combined with several shooted in pairs Type 65 650mm torpedos, with a range similar to the maximal range of Malachit.
They would have been blown off all the task force from the surface in one run.
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