Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


+20
lancelot
Rodion_Romanovic
franco
Hole
Backman
GarryB
Arrow
George1
kvs
The_Observer
Maximmmm
LMFS
slasher
Mindstorm
elconquistador
medo
magnumcromagnon
miketheterrible
PapaDragon
Isos
24 posters

    Armenia political crisis

    Isos
    Isos


    Posts : 11601
    Points : 11569
    Join date : 2015-11-06

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  Isos Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:23 am

    This guy is so stupid.

    Rob Lee
    @RALee85
    ·
    11h
    This is going to anger some people in Moscow. Nikol Pashinyan confirms that Armenia employed Iskander missile systems during the conflict but said that they either didn't explode or only at 10%. 2984
    PapaDragon
    PapaDragon


    Posts : 13472
    Points : 13512
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  PapaDragon Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:15 pm


    Well that would be 100% BS and it will anger people in Moscow but those are already pissed off at Pashinian anyway

    Also, protests in Armenia haven't stopped since the war just FYI
    miketheterrible
    miketheterrible


    Posts : 7383
    Points : 7341
    Join date : 2016-11-06

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  miketheterrible Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:24 pm

    It would be easy to counter this by asking for proof and that Russia would replace current Armenian stock of Iskander with new ones and test the ones they grabbed from Armenia. Or at least replace 1 - 1 as they test.

    If they work as intended, Pashinyan will have some explaining to do.

    It sounds more like typical excuses to me.
    magnumcromagnon
    magnumcromagnon


    Posts : 8138
    Points : 8273
    Join date : 2013-12-05
    Location : Pindos ave., Pindosville, Pindosylvania, Pindostan

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:54 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:It would be easy to counter this by asking for proof and that Russia would replace current Armenian stock of Iskander with new ones and test the ones they grabbed from Armenia. Or at least replace 1 - 1 as they test.

    If they work as intended, Pashinyan will have some explaining to do.

    It sounds more like typical excuses to me.

    No, this is a current campaign by Pussynian to deflect, and attack everything Russian. Remember he refused to meet VVP at the airport (a symbol of disrespect) followed by the time when Shoigu visited and they couldn't be bothered to do the typical diplomatic gestures by hanging up each other's flags, so only the Armenian flag was up and the Russian flag was missing. He's George Soro's soiled adult diaper. He'll soak up of all the urine and feces he can absorb from Soros, and claim it's Ambrosia and life-giving rain water.

    He's a dead man walking (politically), and I fully expect him to call up Bidet to help him secure his next election victory. If that fails he will hide in Uncle Sham's embassy and claim sanctuary. clown pwnd

    LMFS likes this post

    Isos
    Isos


    Posts : 11601
    Points : 11569
    Join date : 2015-11-06

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  Isos Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:18 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:It would be easy to counter this by asking for proof and that Russia would replace current Armenian stock of Iskander with new ones and test the ones they grabbed from Armenia. Or at least replace 1 - 1 as they test.

    If they work as intended, Pashinyan will have some explaining to do.

    It sounds more like typical excuses to me.

    I think they will replace him 1 - 1.


    His sentance is also weiredly stupid. "They exploded at 10%". How would 10% of the warhead explode ?

    Anyway armenians gave already shared videos of Iskander launches during the war.
    magnumcromagnon
    magnumcromagnon


    Posts : 8138
    Points : 8273
    Join date : 2013-12-05
    Location : Pindos ave., Pindosville, Pindosylvania, Pindostan

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:02 pm

    Isos wrote:This guy is so stupid.

    Rob Lee
    @RALee85
    ·
    11h
    This is going to anger some people in Moscow. Nikol Pashinyan confirms that Armenia employed Iskander missile systems during the conflict but said that they either didn't explode or only at 10%. 2984

    You should stop quoting Rob Lee, he's been proven to be a Bona Fide imbecile. His hot take on the Poseidon UUV was that "It's a waste of time and money" was truly pure idiocy...he couldn't comprehend that the Poseidon UUV is a 'scorched Earth' weapon designed to destroy port cities permanently with a double-whammy economic/environmental catastrophe, with all the biggest and the most economically wealthy U.S. cities being port cities. I'm going off on a tangent, but you get the point...the fact this moron is a "Ph. D student" says something about these Uncle Sham war college indoctrination studies.

    But back to Pussynian, Rob Lee's tweet quoting his (Pussynian's) words as something sincere was swiftly and adequately rebuked:

    The extraordinary claims of a clown, whom explicitly prohibited the Chief of General Staff to strike a concentration of enemy forces on grounds, i quote, 'the international community will condemn us'?

    Bad dancer blames the balls for getting in the way, situation — classic.

    https://twitter.com/gunner_schmulke/status/1364587911291822084

    "Weapon of the 80s": Pashinyan criticized the Russian OTRK "Iskander"

    Just like his friend Michael McFaul breath, Pussynian is a pathological liar...his claim of Iskander being "a weapon from the 80's" is easily rebukable bullshit, as Iskander wasn't even put in to service until 2006. Rolling Eyes clown

    LMFS likes this post

    Isos
    Isos


    Posts : 11601
    Points : 11569
    Join date : 2015-11-06

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  Isos Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:18 pm

    Rob Lee shares all the latest news and sumerize in english russian texts with lot of pictures.

    Just like articles from media I take the informations and not the opinions.

    It's a nice account to follow to stay update on russian mimitary, no matter if you agree with him or not. And frankly he rarely shares his opinion.


    I don't know that Poseidon story. Imit's all assumptions since russia never shared any info on its use or capabilities. His guess is just as good as yours.
    Isos
    Isos


    Posts : 11601
    Points : 11569
    Join date : 2015-11-06

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  Isos Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:58 am

    Rob Lee
    @RALee85
    ·
    27 min
    Pashinyan fired a senior defense official yesterday after he laughed at Pashinyan’s criticism of the Iskander missile system. Today, the head of the Armenian General Staff and senior officers called for Pashinyan’s resignation, which Pashinyan has called a military coup. 2991/
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  medo Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:05 am

    Pashinyan now blame everything he could to hide his betrayal of Artzakh and Armenia. But don't worry. He will end worse than Ceausescu and his time is comming to the end.

    flamming_python, slasher, miketheterrible and LMFS like this post

    miketheterrible
    miketheterrible


    Posts : 7383
    Points : 7341
    Join date : 2016-11-06

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  miketheterrible Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:19 am

    This is hilarious.

    US funded, George Soros goon is now fighting with everyone around him and blaming them all for his failure. Same trait Cuomo has with regards to how he handled Covid in NY.

    Hope he gets the rope.
    avatar
    elconquistador


    Posts : 505
    Points : 509
    Join date : 2015-06-02

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  elconquistador Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:38 am

    medo wrote:Pashinyan now blame everything he could to hide his betrayal of Artzakh and Armenia. But don't worry. He will end worse than Ceausescu and his time is comming to the end.

    Not so sure about that. So far he has survived the most disastrous war in FSU history, mass protests and half the Army calling him out by all but name.

    This man has very powerful allies, most importantly the globalist banking cartel
    avatar
    Mindstorm


    Posts : 1133
    Points : 1298
    Join date : 2011-07-20

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  Mindstorm Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:44 am

    Isos wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:It would be easy to counter this by asking for proof and that Russia would replace current Armenian stock of Iskander with new ones and test the ones they grabbed from Armenia. Or at least replace 1 - 1 as they test.

    If they work as intended, Pashinyan will have some explaining to do.

    It sounds more like typical excuses to me.

    I think they will replace him 1 - 1.


    His sentance is also weiredly stupid. "They exploded at 10%". How would 10% of the warhead explode ?

    Anyway armenians gave already shared videos of Iskander launches during the war.



    Pashinyan has dismissed deputy Chief of the general staff of the Armenian Armed Forces Tirana Khachatryan that ,at the question to comment to the statements of Pashinyan around the Искандер-Э, begin to laugh for a long time and said :"Of course, it is impossible... As?... Iskander ?... One shot?... 10% ?... I'm sorry, but it's not serious."

    Now is important to say that at the moment do not exist a single proof of employment of Искандер-Э in the conflict, in particular not a single picture or sample of the easily recognizeable remains of those missiles (as happened instead in Georgia and lately in Syria), and when someone claimed -mostly for political or military blaming reasons - its employment in a conflict area the resulting proofs collected on the field pointed instead to merely 9К72 Эльбрус.


    But if Искандер-Э has been truly used and its warhead do not detonated ,at impact or at the designated altitude depending on the warhead type, (the 10% warhead explosion statement can be the expression of a military illiterate person ,such as Pashinyan, for a missile the warhead of which do not detonate resulting instead only in the secondary detonation of its residual fuel) this would point only to two possibilities :


    1) A self-embarrassing technical incompetency by part of the launcher's operator that, in the launch's sequence, forgot a fundamental step differing from simulated or training launchs……. Rolling Eyes

    2) A deliberate sabotage act by part of the military operators or ,worse, by part of the chain of command…..

    magnumcromagnon, x_54_u43 and LMFS like this post

    avatar
    Mindstorm


    Posts : 1133
    Points : 1298
    Join date : 2011-07-20

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  Mindstorm Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:11 pm

    Isos wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:It would be easy to counter this by asking for proof and that Russia would replace current Armenian stock of Iskander with new ones and test the ones they grabbed from Armenia. Or at least replace 1 - 1 as they test.

    If they work as intended, Pashinyan will have some explaining to do.

    It sounds more like typical excuses to me.

    I think they will replace him 1 - 1.


    His sentance is also weiredly stupid. "They exploded at 10%". How would 10% of the warhead explode ?

    Anyway armenians gave already shared videos of Iskander launches during the war.



    Pashinyan has dismissed deputy Chief of the general staff of the Armenian Armed Forces Tirana Khachatryan that ,at the question to comment to the statements of Pashinyan around the Искандер-Э, begin to laugh for a long time and said :"Of course, it is impossible... As?... Iskander ?... One shot?... 10% ?... I'm sorry, but it's not serious."

    Now is important to say that at the moment do not exist a single proof of employment of Искандер-Э in the conflict, in particular not a single picture or sample of the easily recognizeable remains of those missiles (as happened instead in Georgia and lately in Syria), and when someone claimed -mostly for political or military blaming reasons - its employment in a conflict area the resulting proofs collected on the field pointed instead to merely 9К72 Эльбрус.


    But if Искандер-Э has been truly used and its warhead do not detonated ,at impact or at the designated altitude depending on the warhead type, (the 10% warhead explosion statement can be the expression of a military illiterate person ,such as Pashinyan, for a missile the warhead of which do not detonate resulting instead only in the secondary detonation of its residual fuel) this would point only to two possibilities :


    1) A self-embarrassing technical incompetency by part of the launcher's operator that, in the launch's sequence, forgot a fundamental step differing from simulated or training launchs……. Rolling Eyes

    2) A deliberate sabotage act by part of the military operators or ,worse, by part of the chain of command…..

    avatar
    slasher


    Posts : 196
    Points : 194
    Join date : 2015-09-28

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  slasher Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:29 pm

    Rob Lee
    @RALee85

    Pashinyan is leading a group of his supporters. 2997/
    (With video)
    https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1364881026548432897?s=20

    Looks like a host of political figures at the front, heavy security detail along with reporters and bystanders making up a significant portion of that "crowd" marching.
    miketheterrible
    miketheterrible


    Posts : 7383
    Points : 7341
    Join date : 2016-11-06

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  miketheterrible Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:13 pm

    Wow, look at all those supporters.

    Pashinyan is done.
    LMFS
    LMFS


    Posts : 5161
    Points : 5157
    Join date : 2018-03-03

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  LMFS Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:36 pm

    What a fucking clown....

    flamming_python, magnumcromagnon, slasher and miketheterrible like this post

    Maximmmm
    Maximmmm


    Posts : 320
    Points : 321
    Join date : 2015-07-27
    Location : Switzerland

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  Maximmmm Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:16 pm

    Honestly I'm amazed the army didn't act up sooner and that it's still so tame. I guess Pasha managed to load quite a few Soros boys into the military or that most officers just GDAF about their country beyond their monthly salary.

    magnumcromagnon, Hannibal Barca, miketheterrible and LMFS like this post

    The_Observer
    The_Observer


    Posts : 84
    Points : 84
    Join date : 2021-01-03

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  The_Observer Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:50 pm

    Interesting!

    Russia MOD says Iskander was never used in the conflict dunno

    “According to the objective and reliable information we have, confirmed, among other things, by the objective control system, none of the missile systems of this type were used during the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh. All missile ammunition is in the warehouses of the armed forces of the Republic of Armenia, ”Konashenkov said.

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/20212251834-udkYA.html

    magnumcromagnon, Maximmmm, miketheterrible and LMFS like this post

    PapaDragon
    PapaDragon


    Posts : 13472
    Points : 13512
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  PapaDragon Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:35 pm

    elconquistador wrote:....Not so sure about that. So far he has survived the most disastrous war in FSU history, mass protests and half the Army calling him out by all but name.

    This man has very powerful allies, most importantly the globalist banking cartel

    It's not about allies, he has loyal lapdogs at home who put liberalism over their own country at all times (we had that same situation here back in the 90s)



    The_Observer wrote:Interesting!

    Russia MOD says Iskander was never used in the conflict ...

    We know

    Everyone does

    The_Observer
    The_Observer


    Posts : 84
    Points : 84
    Join date : 2021-01-03

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  The_Observer Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:11 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    We know

    Everyone does


    Everyone knew except me, apparently lol. I even saw a purported impact video of the missile. The internet is full of authentic garbage.
    I'm glad the Russians corrected the record on this.


    EDIT: Found info that suggests that Iskander missiles may have been used. Though the video is of "big-foot" quality:

    https://twitter.com/fab_hinz/status/1325922423355674627?s=20
    avatar
    elconquistador


    Posts : 505
    Points : 509
    Join date : 2015-06-02

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  elconquistador Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:44 pm

    It's not about allies, he has loyal lapdogs at home who put liberalism over their own country at all times (we had that same situation here back in the 90s)

    Without the backing of the Sorosites Pasinyan would have been ousted a long time ago.

    He'd probably wouldn't even be President in the first way. But for some reason locals in these second tier type of countries always equate accepting their new globalist overlords with turning into a Germany-like economic powerhouse where money is just falling from the sky. Uhh no, you'll still be a pisspoor country, but now with zero national sovereignty, debt based slavery, the woke tranny religión and (in time) hundreds of thousands of Africans as a bonus

    Armenia political crisis Screen43

    Uncle Shmuel has spoken. Things have not even going well lately, another sign of a the nearin end of their global hegemony. Myanmar kicked out the Soros lapdogs, Belarus countered the color revolution, Erdo has been giving them the finger, Bolivia overturned their CIA backed coup recently, the Houthis are banging in Saudi skulls and hopefully Armenia will now follow

    GarryB, kvs, slasher, miketheterrible, LMFS, Hole and lyle6 like this post

    kvs
    kvs


    Posts : 15857
    Points : 15992
    Join date : 2014-09-11
    Location : Turdope's Kanada

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  kvs Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:00 pm

    The pathology in a lot of the limitrophe states is due to their subconscious realization that they cannot be like Germany.
    Their whole shtick is to leech off some big country like Russia and they have nothing to offer. If you listen to all the
    kooks running the Baltic chihuahua statelets, Georgia, Armenia, etc., they all assumed that crawling up the EU's ass would
    return the gravy train. By now it should be clear to everyone that the gravy train is never going to show up, but they
    are so invested in their myths that they are in total denial.

    Armenia is a real disappointment. But they get to live with their own choices.

    slasher likes this post

    magnumcromagnon
    magnumcromagnon


    Posts : 8138
    Points : 8273
    Join date : 2013-12-05
    Location : Pindos ave., Pindosville, Pindosylvania, Pindostan

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:41 am

    Look who's one of Pussynian's biggest supporters lol!Embarassed
    Armenia political crisis EvLBNujWgAEnzAq?format=png&name=900x900

    Pussynian's fanboi's will have a hard time defending this lmao!

    slasher, miketheterrible, LMFS and Hole like this post

    avatar
    elconquistador


    Posts : 505
    Points : 509
    Join date : 2015-06-02

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  elconquistador Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:08 am

    https://mobile.twitter.com/neccamc1/status/1365462153310982146

    Opposition supporters practicing the execution of Pasinyan?

    Or a dirty psy-op?

    LMFS likes this post

    kvs
    kvs


    Posts : 15857
    Points : 15992
    Join date : 2014-09-11
    Location : Turdope's Kanada

    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  kvs Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:04 am

    elconquistador wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/neccamc1/status/1365462153310982146

    Opposition supporters practicing the execution of Pasinyan?

    Or a dirty psy-op?

    Strange behaviour not conformant to the previous demonstrations. Expect Sorosites to pull out every stop so any trick
    will be used. Hijacking anti-regime demonstrations or injecting saboteurs is par for the course. After all we saw this
    on January 6 on Capitol hill.

    It is also possible that Pussyinian will be "poisoned" sometime soon. Novichoke or dioxin will be blamed together with Putin
    and all Russians.

    GarryB, elconquistador, slasher, LMFS and The_Observer like this post


    Sponsored content


    Armenia political crisis Empty Re: Armenia political crisis

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:01 am