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    Armenia becoming a US puppet

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:06 pm

    From lord bebo telegram channel

    🇺🇸🇦🇲 US Army in Armenia!

    Representative of American army will work in Armenia's Defense Ministry, U.S. Under Secretary confirmed

    U.S. Under Secretary of State for Civilian Security, Democracy, and Human Rights Uzra Zeya was in Armenia from July 13-16.

    Hetq spoke with Zeya about Armenian-American cooperation, American-mediated Armenian-Azerbaijani negotiations, the right of return of Artsakh residents, the preservation of Artsakh's Armenian heritage and ongoing democratic reforms in Armenia.

    To the question if there will be a U.S. Army resident adviser in attached to Armenia’s Ministry of Defense, Zeya answered:

    "I can confirm this. It’s a welcome development that I would encourage you to follow up with our ambassador and press team. We welcome deepening defense and civilian security cooperation between the U.S. and Armenia. This is part of the spirit embodied in the historic upgrade in U.S. Armenia relations to a strategic partnership."


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    Post  sepheronx Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:38 pm

    Now it's more or a less a total loss of Armenia.

    I wonder if Russian authorities are really ignorant of the events or if they just don't care?
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    Post  lancelot Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:51 pm

    Armenia needs to give back its Iskander batteries.

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    Post  sepheronx Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:10 pm

    They won't. They will transfer it to Americans and Russia will still offer blowjobs to Armenia.

    Seriously, russias soft power is weaker than fucking Zimbabwes.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:34 pm

    sepheronx wrote:They won't. They will transfer it to Americans and Russia will still offer blowjobs to Armenia.

    Seriously, russias soft power is weaker than fucking Zimbabwes.

    That would be a casus belli.
    I do not believe that trump is interested in Armenia also.

    I see two possibilities: either the situation remain more or less like this until the new president comes in power, and then is somewhat deescalated, or they try something funny and they will receive iskanders in Yerevan while Russia gives the green light to Azerbaijan to annex another bit of Armenia.

    About saying that Russia has not soft power... If Armenia wants to disappear they are free to do it. Soft power does not mean giving away money and goods for free. They want to believe in American or Brussels lies, they are free to do it as long as they are ready for the consequences.

    Russia does not have to do anything to punish them. Just tell Turkey and Azerbaijan they will not do it next time they decide to attack Armenia again.

    The only remaining Armenians will be those in the diaspora and maybe in what remain of navgorno kharabak.

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    Post  Isos Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:28 pm

    Armenia is getting export versions. Nothing to lear that they don't already know from iskander use in Ukraine.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:26 am



    Looking west has consequences. Russia has alternatives to Armenias products, will the west take Armenias products so they can continue or do they need a painful adaptation?

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:54 am

    https://topwar.ru/247439-armenija-nachala-konsultacii-s-mezhdunarodnymi-partnerami-dlja-reformirovanija-vs-respubliki.html

    Armenia has begun consultations with “international partners” to reform the republic’s armed forces


    Armenia has begun consultations with the United States and other Western countries on the issue of reforming the republic's armed forces. This was reported by the Armenian Ministry of Defense.

    A representative of the Armenian military department answered the question of why the republic's Defense Ministry needed a representative of the Pentagon, and on a permanent basis. According to him, the Americans will help the Armenians carry out reforms of the armed forces, and other "international partners" will also take part in the consultations. Some on a short-term basis, and some, like the United States, on a long-term basis.


    "As part of the reform of the Armenian Armed Forces, the Armenian Ministry of Defense has received and continues to receive advisory support from the United States and other international partners, which may be short-term or long-term."

    - the Ministry of Defense of the Republic stated.

    Earlier, the US State Department stated that the main task of the United States is to help Armenia distance itself from Russia, so the Americans will create all the necessary conditions for this. As Blinken's assistant for European and Eurasian affairs James O'Brien stated, a significant part of Armenians allegedly do not want to have relations with Russia because of the situation with Nagorno-Karabakh. And Armenian Prime Minister Pashinyan is pursuing the "correct" policy aimed at breaking off relations with Moscow.

    It is worth noting that the Americans actively support the version launched by Pashinyan that Russia is allegedly to blame for the loss of Karabakh, and not the Armenian Prime Minister himself, who sold out the unrecognized republic behind the back of the people.

    Armenia never recognised Navgorno Kharabak as a part of Armenia, so they did not lose anything.
    Russia offered to mediate many times when Armenia was in a position of strength and Armenia governments (including the ones before Pashinyan) always refused any compromise (but also refused to recognise the land as part of Armenia).
    The former residents of Kharabak should be extremely angry against their fellow ethnic Armenians and against the Armenian government, not against Russia.

    Anyway this starts to be a problem to be taken into account for Russia, because with the current situation the presence of Armenia in CSTO does not make sense anymore (and Russia will have to think about the two military bases in Armenia).

    Possibly Russia will have to consider abandoning Armenia. The result will be that Armenian will be happy about flirting with the declining west for a couple of years, until turkey will invade again (since Russia is not  there anymore) causing probably mass deportations and other foreseeable consequences.

    Then maybe after some other years Russia will get it back from Turkey, this time making it part of Russia (as it was before 1917) and inhabited by Russians,  persians and Russianised ethnic Armenians.

    I imagine the "recreation" of the following governatores/oblasts/ republics in the south Caucasus, sometimes in the next 15 years:

    Erevan oblast (including igdir, currently in turkey)
    Elizavetpol oblast (currently ganja in Azerbaijan)
    Baku oblast
    Baku federal city
    Kars oblast (currently in turkey)
    Artvin oblast  (currently in turkey)
    Ardaban oblast  (currently in turkey)
    Rise oblast  (currently in turkey)

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    Post  GarryB Sat Aug 03, 2024 6:28 am

    Or maybe the Turks will be forceful but fair and respect the rights of Armenians and Russia will have no reason to try to take the territory back.

    Perhaps even the west will allow Armenia to join the EU which will piss the Turks off so much they might leave HATO and fully commit to BRICS and turn their back on the back stabbing west for good.

    They will be getting all sorts of promises in their ears from the west suggesting Russia is in their way of making lots of money pumping oil and gas from the stans to Europe to Turkey, and other such nonsense.

    As mentioned how can Armenia be unhappy with Russia for not protecting a region they didn't recognise themselves... crazy stuff.

    I am sure the US will make them happy, because they are good for all the tiny countries they control and manipulate... ask Ukraine.

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